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Kukri recommendation

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by Hermit_Knight, Apr 9, 2018.

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  1. Hermit_Knight

    Hermit_Knight

    284
    Mar 19, 2018
    Hey all, I am not sure if this is the correct place for this but I’m looking for a kukri for my collection it will be used to clear bamboo on my property and just for me to look at lol. I like the look of the cold steel in O1 I think it’s the gurka kukri but I will need to add another $80 on top of the price for a custom sheath because secure ex seems to dull my cold steel. Has anyone used any others such as the Kabar or the Ontario or the condor? Any recommendations? Regards Hermit.
     
  2. kvaughn

    kvaughn Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Himalayan Imports sub-forum. VERY highly recommended. Great hand forged blades and service.--KV
     
  3. shortwinger

    shortwinger

    865
    Apr 7, 2010
    I have never had my secure-ex sheath dull my CS Gurkha Kukri, and I use it as a tool so it has gone in and out of that sheath a lot. Mine is the SK5 version and the 01 steel is supposed to be tougher, so I wouldnt invent a problem where one doesn't exist. I love mine, use it hard, and after about 7 years it has no visible signs of damage or excessive wear.

    With your stated "mind use" most traditional and modern made Kukri will work for you.
     
  4. Hermit_Knight

    Hermit_Knight

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    Mar 19, 2018
    I’ve just had issues with secure ex dulling my VG1 recon tanto and srk I heard it has something to do with glass in the nylon? No problems now that i take it out and try and not let the edge touch the inside of the sheath, that’s good news about the 01 gurka kukri it looks amazing.
     
  5. Square_peg

    Square_peg

    Feb 1, 2012
    bump
     
  6. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    Mine dulls it like crazy (I have the O1 one). It's ridiculous, a light touch of the sheath and it shows light on the edge.

    TS, I'd look into Kalaish Blades as well. I will most likely get one from them. All the niceness of the original ones, but lighter and with "modern" (oil-quench & normalization) heat treatment.
     
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  7. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    These bumps are appreciated!
     
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  8. shortwinger

    shortwinger

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    Apr 7, 2010
    Aside from the kukri I also have an SRK, Recon Scout and Trailmaster and haven't had any issues with the sheaths. With the kukri, whether traditional or modern, I often see people ripping the kukri out of the sheath just like a straight blade. No matter what kind of sheath you use, this method will dull your kukri.

    When a kukri is removed from, or put back into the sheath, you should purposefully ride the spine of the knife against the sheath all the way through the curve, never drag the edge. The spine should be in the palm of your hand as you are doing this and no part of your hand or fingers should be grabbing the "edge end" of the sheath. There are videos of the Gurkhas demonstrating how this is done and lots of videos of severely cut fingers when people ignore this procedure.
     
  9. Storm Crow

    Storm Crow

    Apr 12, 2006
    Another vote for Kailash. I haven't had the chance to have one in hand, but they have some pretty impressive testing videos. Like, chopping rebar without damage, chopping through a nail with no damage, chopping buffalo horn. Interesting back story on the company, too. It was formed by kamis leaving other khukuri manufacturers due to dissatisfaction with quality standards, pay, and working conditions, under the guidance of a fellow from Australia who had several designs produced by one of the other khukuri manufacturers and got aggravated with them. He had brought modern heat treatment methods with him, and that manufacturer was just unwilling to put in the extra effort it took to produce the higher quality blades on a regular basis. I honestly don't even remember which company it was, but the attitude was that if someone broke a khukuri, they'd just make another one, rather than make some changes and improve their overall product.

    Kailash is now producing designs from several American custom knife makers. No, I'm not one of 'em. :D
     
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  10. dingy

    dingy

    Feb 19, 2008
    cs gurkha kukri , kabar1249 and becker bk21 are cool choppers , if your budget is tight ,go kabar 1249 .
     
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  11. shortwinger

    shortwinger

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    Apr 7, 2010
    Storm Crow wrote; "Another vote for Kailash. I haven't had the chance to have one in hand, but they have some pretty impressive testing videos."

    Where are these testing videos?
     
  12. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    Agreed, well aware of all these.
     
  13. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    Their Facebook and Instagram pages. (You may need to dig a little bit back in time to reach older posts.)
     
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  14. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    They also harden the whole edge, not only the sweet spot - based on my conversations with Andrew. Another thing I see (and like) is that their traditional designs don't go for the overbuilt type.

    They may just get me back into "traditional" kukris :).
     
  15. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    They are not the only ones with this issue. Kabar had it as well (at least on some Beckers).
     
  16. Storm Crow

    Storm Crow

    Apr 12, 2006
    Moonw covered it. Here's one of their other designs (same steel/HT/etc.) cutting through a nail.

     
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  17. bikerector

    bikerector Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 16, 2016
    There are a number of good options but I would just caution to be aware that some of them can get thick and are better for wood, or splitting in the case of mine, than some others. For bambo, I would imagine something like a kukri machete, a little more thickness probably but not too much, would be good. I think mine is approaching 1/2" spine (Ang Kohla from HI I believe is what it's modeled after) and it actually chops pretty horribly but splits as good as a full sized axe. It's as heavy as one too so the only real advantage is it's easier to carry and batons well. Plus, it's fun to use.

    Basically, there are a lot of designs of kukri's and just having the forward blade doesn't mean that's all you need to consider.
     
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  18. Hermit_Knight

    Hermit_Knight

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    Mar 19, 2018
    Thanks I will look into them, it sucks every time I get something cold steel I usually have to add $80 to the price to get a custom sheath secure ex is terrible in my opinion dulls blades fast.
     
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  19. Moonw

    Moonw

    Nov 19, 2014
    Yes. Probably the Carbon V one Shortwinger mentions had a slightly different sheath design, but I suspect there's some variation with the molds that's always been there. Even taking ridiculous care not to touch the edge to the sheath it will still "bite" you every now and then.

    Kabar seems to have eliminated the glass particles, not sure why Cold Steel wouldn't follow suit. People have been complaining about this for many more years, yet they are "surprised' every time they hear about it - it's always "the first time" :). I'd like to be able to use an otherwise very nicely built sheath just the way I use a leather one for my other kukris.

    I've never split one / lost fingers to / dulled another knife on any other type of material, so I suppose I'm not paying too much tribute to my Neanderthal throwback genes as soon as I touch a sharp piece of metal :).

    However, I appreciate Shortwinger's insight, the above is not intended as a diss towards what he wrote. He's been using kukris long before I knew that someone, somewhere dreamt of a bent knife and it came up awesome :). I cringe every time a Youtube reviewer / "antiques dealer" unsheaths a kukri the wrong way...fully expecting something to go wrong. Those curved edges are not to be played with, as a nice little Thai enep reminded me one day when I got sloppy...
     
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  20. fugglesby

    fugglesby

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    Mar 16, 2013
    Thanks for the kind words Moonw and Stormcrow!
    We've just started at Kailash Blades pretty recently and are still growing and developing.
    Things to look out for in future: Micarta handles and acid etches to bring out the hamon as a standard option on our website models as well as some high profile collaborations. If anyone is looking for guidance on choosing their first khukuri, just send me a message and I'll help as much as I can.
    Take care,
    Andrew
     
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