Lance Armstrong/WTH???

Magnaminous_G said:
He is a liar, a cheater, and a destroyer of lives. The number of journalists, fellow cyclists, and even true sportsmen and gentlemen like Greg LeMond (first and only American to win the tour) whom he had threatened and ruined financially through the major companies and publications that sponsored him will never be known. He used his celebrity and "hero" status to crush anyone who dared to question his cleanness. But make no mistake, the entire time he was a liar, a cheater, and a destroyer of lives.

Yes, he was a phenomenal athlete with or without drugs. But no, he is not "the MAN!" or "one hell of a man and a great human."

EDIT: Actually, Greg LeMond said it best: "I just think he's not a good person and that's all I can say. I mean, he's a facade, if you knew the real Lance Armstrong that I know. I think he fronts himself as a guy who is loving and caring. From my experience, he's not a nice guy and I've had some very difficult periods with him. And I don't believe he'll finish up having any friends in cycling."
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I never met the guy so I do not care to comment on his personality. I am commenting on his performance as an athlete. I can care less about his personal life. He has also won the Leadville 100 mountain bike race and I think a few marathons. Yup, the MAN.
 
I guess I have a different perspective on professional athletes. Ya, they are good at what they do, but who really cares ? It is a sport. Nothing more, nothing less..

Millions of dollars a year to play a game, or ride a bike ? It's awful hard to take them seriously. Especially when they strike, because they don't feel they are getting a fair cut. Seriously ? Millions a year, and they still want more.... All sports have their issues with P.E.D's.
There accomplishments are meanigless when they have to enhance themselves.
They should take a lesson from the players from the old days. They didn't enhance themselves. Their success was earned and honest. and they played for love of the game. '
Those guys I could respect...
 
RUNIT said:
I never met the guy so I do not care to comment on his personality. I am commenting on his performance as an athlete. I can care less about his personal life. He has also won the Leadville 100 mountain bike race and I think a few marathons. Yup, the MAN.
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You did comment on his personality, though, when you said he's "one hell of a man and a great human." I said as much in my post that I agree he's a phenomenal athlete, although his accomplishments are tainted by his cheating. But he's not a great human.


338375 said:
There accomplishments are meanigless when they have to enhance themselves.
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+1
 
CWL said:
If it is necessary to clean house of the whole lot of them, so be it. I hate corruption in sports like I hate corruption in governments and the business community. It may not be possible to get rid of everyone when the stakes & $ is so high, but at least the world can remove them one at a time where possible.

That article that powernoodle posted is a good one, where his former assistant pretty-much confirms the doping. What most people do not realize about Lance is that he isn't a "hero" at all, he really is not anything like a "good guy" like his public image portrays. Lance Armstrong is and has always been a low-down, dirty, petty and despicable person. He has always used his fame and power in the cycling world to hold-back people from testifying the truth about him.

He destroyed America's first and real cycling legend, Greg LeMond, 3-time winner of the Tour De France. Greg did it the clean and legit way and Lance had to destroy him for his stance against his doping. I've always known this, but way too many Lance "apologists" out there who would rather disbelieve historical fact.

Now that Lance is no longer a force in cycling, the truth will come out more and more. He can't threaten to destroy (or actually destroy) everyone who has always known about his abuses.
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This.

And I think it's tragic that we just seem to be accepting juiced-up cheaters as the "norm" now. This attitude of, "well, all the top athletes are probably doing it" is disgusting and sad. The proper response is not to just roll over and accept that top athletes are juiced to gills and performing at an unnatural level. The proper response is to crack down on it hard. If it takes a witch hunt throughout professional (and amateur) sports, then so be it.

I'm glad Armstrong's legacy has been stripped from him and that his phony reputation has been disgraced. It's exactly what he deserves. F&$# that lying, cheating, ego-maniac.
 
Bob W said:
If you ask me, we could do with quite a bit less hero worshiping. :thumbdn:
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Absolutely... Most of these guys are not good role models. Most are overpaid, materialistic, and not exactly well educated. Hell, the only reason they go to College is, to hopefully make it into Professional sports. I can't even stand to listen to most of them talk. It's pathetic.

I know I'm in the minority that could care less about Professional athletes, but I can live with that. I've taught my son the same outlook.
He knows the people he should look up to, are the men and women that serve our country. They sacrifice time with their own families, and risk their lives thousands of miles away from home. Those are true heros... And while they aren't heros, the many people who work their butts off, just trying to live a decent life, and provide for their family are much better role models imo...
 
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