Leather sheaths!!

[komondor]

Here's my problem: I'm an extremely professional individual. I expect to get treated with the same respect that I consistently afford others. When someone wants to give me their money, I let them. Then we are both happy. Whatever your business practices are, Dwayne, fine. Whatever works for you.

But don't come on here and claim I'm being a jerk. That is inexcusable. Every one of the big leather sheath makers is booked out until several weeks, or months. Anyone don't believe me.....then call them, email them....like I did. In fact, one of them is not even taking orders right now....his words to me. Again, I don't have a problem with that. If your work is so good, then you are busy. I'm happy for you. Dwayne, that includes you. Great work by what I can tell. That's why I emailed you for an order.

I just want to know why it is such a friggin' ordeal to get a sheath made for a popular brand of knife. Why can't someone at Busse send out a pattern for each new model to all the popular sheath makers so that they can fashion their sheaths ahead of time?? They know they will be selling a boatload of them. How about having a list of ALL of the sheathmakers on the Busse website and just make it generally easier to connect a purchase with a new sheath?? You know what I mean? Just thinking in general here, no concrete ideas yet.

Come one people. Busse is not like other knife companies. They are in a unique position. They sell far more units of each individual model than any custom knife, yet slightly less than full production companies-- who supply their own sheaths!!

FURTHERMORE: If there is ONE thing I cannot stand, it is this piling-on mentality. I can't stand this fraternity mentality that thinks you can shyt all over someone else because you are not one of the usual "gang." Just knock it off. You people are better than this; leave that crap at Whine & Cheese with those pimply-faced morons where it belongs.

There is nothing in my original post that suggests anger, or impropriety. Maybe a little impatience, but that's about all you can accuse me of.

 

[komondor]

that is exactly what dwayne said. it is not the kydex that causes scratches or blemishes, it is a piece of debris.

It's a piece of debris that is more easily forgiven in a softer medium, such as leather or cordura. Kydex has no "give" to it, which is especially problematic if the surface of the sheath is in closer contact to the blade. You now have three hard mediums grinding against each other in this scenario.

 

[leatherman]

I just want to know why it is such a friggin' ordeal to get a sheath made for a popular brand of knife. Why can't someone at Busse send out a pattern for each new model to all the popular sheath makers so that they can fashion their sheaths ahead of time?? They know they will be selling a boatload of them. How about having a list of ALL of the sheathmakers on the Busse website and just make it generally easier to connect a purchase with a new sheath?? You know what I mean? Just thinking in general here, no concrete ideas yet.

Your preaching to the choir. When Jerry first started this sheathmaker list it was assumed that those on the list would get the pattern knives in good time, hopefully earlier giving us enough time to get some stock in hand when deliveries started, it never happened. Its another dead horse.

Your other comments. Using thinly veiled foul language is not professional in any venue, and if disagreeing with you makes us part of a fraternity, then so be it, I prefer it that way.

 

[mymindisamob]

As to the kydex comments, it's a matter of responsibility. I have to keep my blades and sheath clean if I don't want debris scratching the finish. For me it's just easier with kydex. Mashed Cat puts a drain hole in the bottom, so that is who I use. As far as leather goes, I have always preferred Armoralleather and Chuddy Bear. Fantastic sheathes, but still possible to scratch the finish if things are not kept clean. Fortunately, I really don't mind signs of use, but understand those that do.

This whole conversation about providing sheathes has been beaten to death. I, as many others understand why Jerry doesn't supply them but at the same time am frustrated by it. It's apparently not going to change and the conversations as to that conclusion are captured if you know how to use the search function.

In response to the remarks about "piling on" and so on I really couldn't care much less about accusations and name calling. I will speak/write as I feel about who and/or what I want as I want. I like Busse knives (although I too don't always agree with how they do things) and Dwayne is a friend.

 

[TheLunk]

I have several Boss Jack sheaths on the stitcher right now, as an offer of apologies for somehow offending you, I'll give you one. I hope it at least provides you with a serviceable way to carry your knife and you can have it in your hands by the end of next week at the latest.

I just wanted to say that you, sir, are a class act.

-TheLunk-

 

[MORIMOTOM]

Here's my problem: I'm an extremely professional individual. I expect to get treated with the same respect that I consistently afford others. When someone wants to give me their money, I let them. Then we are both happy. Whatever your business practices are, Dwayne, fine. Whatever works for you.

really? all evidence to the contrary. you called out every sheath maker and jerry busse in your first post. claiming to be something does not make it so.

But don't come on here and claim I'm being a jerk. That is inexcusable. Every one of the big leather sheath makers is booked out until several weeks, or months. Anyone don't believe me.....then call them, email them....like I did. In fact, one of them is not even taking orders right now....his words to me. Again, I don't have a problem with that. If your work is so good, then you are busy. I'm happy for you. Dwayne, that includes you. Great work by what I can tell. That's why I emailed you for an order.

insult veiled as a compliment.

did you do your homework prior to buying the knife? you knew when you purchased it did not come with a sheath.

you've been a member for 10 years, and have had has as much access to this forum as anyone else.

I

just want to know why it is such a friggin' ordeal to get a sheath made for a popular brand of knife. Why can't someone at Busse send out a pattern for each new model to all the popular sheath makers so that they can fashion their sheaths ahead of time?? They know they will be selling a boatload of them. How about having a list of ALL of the sheathmakers on the Busse website and just make it generally easier to connect a purchase with a new sheath?? You know what I mean? Just thinking in general here, no concrete ideas yet.

search function is your friend.

Come one people. Busse is not like other knife companies. They are in a unique position. They sell far more units of each individual model than any custom knife, yet slightly less than full production companies-- who supply their own sheaths!!

FURTHERMORE: If there is ONE thing I cannot stand, it is this piling-on mentality. I can't stand this fraternity mentality that thinks you can shyt all over someone else because you are not one of the usual "gang." Just knock it off. You people are better than this; leave that crap at Whine & Cheese with those pimply-faced morons where it belongs.

There is nothing in my original post that suggests anger, or impropriety. Maybe a little impatience, but that's about all you can accuse me of.

another insult veiled as some sort of compliment. a few people don't agree with you, and it is dogpiling? now you're just being a crybaby.

you "shyt" on every sheathmaker here and on jerry busse in the op. simply because you fail to see that does not mean it didn't happen.


btw, did you happen to notice dwayne offered you a free sheath???

 

[MORIMOTOM]

It's a piece of debris that is more easily forgiven in a softer medium, such as leather or cordura. Kydex has no "give" to it, which is especially problematic if the surface of the sheath is in closer contact to the blade. You now have three hard mediums grinding against each other in this scenario.

thx rerun.

 

[komondor]

Dwayne: I did notice you offered me a sheath. That's very classy of you. I'm afraid I will have to decline your very generous offer because I committed to someone who answered my request in the Sheaths forum. But I want to say thank you very much for your offer. That's very classy, and it reminds me of something I would do.

Mymindisamob: Signs of use are one thing. Deep scratches running the length of the blade are unsightly, especially in a smaller blade.

MORIMOTOM: I responded to you with the utmost restraint and respect. Why are you responding with venom? Why are you the dog that is barking so loudly? Holding grudges is a remarkably unproductive activity-- especially from 2 years back. I hope you noticed I didn't join the W&C party where you and others insulted me because of a single thread in which I disagreed with you on a heated political issue. I know W&C is for blowing off steam, but sometimes it all seems kind of childish, especially when it was one full year after the fact.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

Dwayne: I did notice you offered me a sheath. That's very classy of you. I'm afraid I will have to decline your very generous offer because I committed to someone who answered my request in the Sheaths forum. But I want to say thank you very much for your offer. That's very classy, and it reminds me of something I would do.

Mymindisamob: Signs of use are one thing. Deep scratches running the length of the blade are unsightly, especially in a smaller blade.

MORIMOTOM: I responded to you with the utmost restraint and respect. Why are you responding with venom? Why are you the dog that is barking so loudly? Holding grudges is a remarkably unproductive activity-- especially from 2 years back. I hope you noticed I didn't join the W&C party where you and others insulted me because of a single thread in which I disagreed with you on a heated political issue. I know W&C is for blowing off steam, but sometimes it all seems kind of childish, especially when it was one full year after the fact.

i have no recollection of any prior disagreement, so if there is any grudge it is yours. everything posted in this thread is in direct response to your posts here. if you think my responses are venomous, you are a bigger baby than i thought.


you have not responded to anyone with "the utmost respect" here. everything you have posted has an obvious underlying and passive aggressive hostility, as well as being obviously condescending.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

Why are you the dog that is barking so loudly?

because you started a thread and i can post wherever i want, as much as i want.





woof.

 

[komondor]

.....you are a bigger baby than i thought.

THEN:

...because you started a thread and i can post wherever i want, as much as i want.

Too funny.

 

[komondor]

everything you have posted has an obvious underlying and passive aggressive hostility, as well as being obviously condescending.

So, in other words, as long as I don't sound like a raving bully, I am passive aggressive and condescending?? That's a really interesting perspective you've got there.

Have you tried meditation?

 

[MORIMOTOM]

So, in other words, as long as I don't sound like a raving bully, I am passive aggressive and condescending?? That's a really interesting perspective you've got there.

Have you tried meditation?

really like to live in the extremes, don't you? where did i post that? if you think those are your only two options in life, you really have a lot to learn.

you are passive aggressive and condescending because of what you posted, including this last post.

if you think i'm a raving bully, so be it. i don't really care. feel free to lock your thread and put me on ignore since it bothers you so much.


interesting that even though your "problem" had been solved, and you were offered a free sheath, you continued whining. maybe your self righteous opinion of yourself is not so accurate.

 

[komondor]

i don't really care.

Apparently you do.

feel free to lock your thread and put me on ignore since it bothers you so much.[/B]

Why are you still talking? Seriously.

I'm now going to walk away from this thread (multiple clapping is heard).

Feel free to bark one more time, and get your last word in.

Have at it, Rusty.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

Apparently you do.



Why are you still talking? Seriously.

I'm now going to walk away from this thread (multiple clapping is heard).

Feel free to bark one more time, and get your last word in.

Have at it, Rusty.

best you can do? really?


why the need to announce you are leaving?

just do it.

 

[TerryBlinski]

Dwayne, your sheaths stink. I'm very disappointed in this one I commandeered from my friend. The sheath is awful, I mean it fits the blade perfectly, it looks amazing, and the snakeskin (which is Karung I think?) is freakin awesome. Thus, it's horrible. I want to preemptively give you the opportunity to give me a new sheath, free of charge, at your own expense, by next week. I am giving you a very strict timetable because I know you are busy, but as a potential customer, I don't really care. I just think I deserve it.

Figured I would crack a joke and hopefully lighten things up a bit for everyone involved. Dwayne's stuff is awesome. K-Man, take the free sheath! Trust me.

 

[leatherman]

mymindisamob, Thank you my friend. I've known you for a long time and value your friendship more than you will ever know.

MORIMOTOM, same as above, you've been a good friend for a very long time. Thank you.

Terry,

Now THAT lightened the mood immensely.

komondor, I appreciate the good will, but I do feel the sting of the olive branch I offered that was thrown back at my face, and the ignored offer till someone brought it up. Better late than never I guess. Passive aggressive, yea, that does sum it up very nicely.

Looks like I've got my next give away pegged! Sweet! Stay tuned!

 

[komondor]

Hi Dwayne,

Yup, I'm back. It was nice of you to offer me your sheath. Very classy. However, you just couldn't let it rest, huh?

Your problem, Dwayne, is exactly the same as morimotom's: you think you are automatically entitled to my respect. Neither one of you get my respect until you deserve it.

You did NOTHING in this thread to earn my respect until you offered me your sheath. And then I graciously acknowledged your offer with my genuine sentiments. Now you throw it back in my face? So much for wanting "no need to carry this further down into a mess" as you described earlier.

Who's the passive-aggressive now, pal?

Like I said earlier, and which has been clearly proven, this thread quickly became nothing more than a bunch of dog-piling by your self-admitted buddies coming in here to attack me. Had I not needed to defend myself, I would have acknowledged your kind offer prior to your buddy's reminder.

But let's be clear here, you maintained a supercilious air throughout this entire affair, including your offer. Your arrogance is showing too, buddy, don't kid yourself.

I commend all of the other Busse forumites for not throwing in their two cents, no matter how badly they wanted to.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

nothing but a liar and a troll.

 

[leatherman]

wow, I dont know what to say but, wow.

komondor, just let it go, both with the tirades and apparently something that happened some time ago. I haven't done a search yet, but curiosity is getting the best of me. The only person looking bad here is you. For the good of this community just let it go.

EDIT to add, ah! Now I understand. After some research I discovered that this thread is one in a series of experiments in predictions of how a group, clique, or other fraternal organizations respond to stimulus associated to certain outside influences and/or provocations. Its interesting honestly, in a warped hog kinda way.

Its all good, I have a feeling we didn't but, did we pass?