Leave the sale price in the thread

PeteH

PeteH

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Please stop deleting your sale prices. Having a record of what knives have sold for is useful if you want to sell a knife, or if just want to know what one is worth. There is no better gauge of value than what someone has paid for it.

Not that long ago it was very uncommon to edit out the price. Not anymore, and I blame Liu Kang. He would buy knives and then turn around and sell them for more. He asked sellers to remove the sale price so that people couldn't go back and see that he was flipping the knife for a lot more than he paid.

There is no good reason to remove the price. Sometimes you sell a knife for less than you might have gotten. Sometimes you pay more than you should. But no one on the forum is keeping score. Removing the price smacks of being a noob, of not knowing how things should be done. Do your fellow hogs a favor; leave the sale price in the thread.
 
I agree. However, many here disagree with this thought. Something about that thing called "capitalism" and free market. I choose to leave and state the price my blades sell at for the reasons you stated.
 
I'll pose the same question to you as I have in the past when the same subject has come up. How do you know the price listed is the price it sold for?

The end result is the site owner likes to have less rules not more so that's why he chose to leave it up to the seller.
 
Even in my short stint being a paying member here, this subject's been debated A LOT...

So, I don't know how much good your urging will do Pete...it'll probably just make those in both camps refortify their positions...but thanks!:)

There's good arguments for AND against leaving prices...I think you make the best FOR LEAVING PRICES argument...

Rycen beat me to the punch in noting there's no guarantee the blade ACTUALLY sold for the listing price-- in fact, I'd say more that half the time there's a little horsetrading back/forth before each party settles on a price...pretty good ammo for the DELETE PRICES camp...HOWEVER it's reasonable to assume there's not gonna be a huge difference in asking & closing price in all but the most extreme cases....so it's still better than nothing as far as figuring a current, fair market on a particular model.

A good friend of mine here thinks it's NO ONE'S BUSINESS what the price details of the sale are...also a valid point that I understand and appreciate.

I've waffled from deleting prices to currently LEAVING prices in threads...and I reserve the right to further change my mind if I see fit.;)

In the final analysis I think it's great that there's no rigid rules about this point...one of the reasons I love to hang out here, hope it never changes.

Personally, I love debating and listening to the debates about this...I find it fascinating...so thanks again Pete!
 
I often choose to delete mine so people that don't support the site can't use it as a reference to sell elsewhere.

You are a gold membership level. That means you can ask if a price is fair, or for an outright value on a certain knife. Don't be weary of exercising the rights you pay for.

I would rather push one to support the site, than slightly convenience everyone, especially since those that gain the most are those that don't support the site (otherwise they can just ask).
 
I leave mine up. It's helpful when pricing/selling a blade and not sure what the last couple sold and also when thinking of buying a knife and not sure what the last couple went for.
 
From my limited time as a paying member here I have found the listing values here to be less helpful then those on the bay to be perfectly honest. I've bought blades for the I'll take it asking price and the seller took the price down. I did not request that he do so but I was greatful as I overpaid and feel like that's the buyers and sellers business. Later on I got pms from members asking what I paid and I was happy to let them know as they were considering selling their blade of the same model. But the price I paid was well over market price so they didn't do near as well. Also awhile back I bought a blade for a price via pm and the seller changed the asking price in the listing to a higher price then I paid. I thought that was interesting and a good potential marketing inflator if he was planing to sell another of the same model in the near future! I've seen more than one person do this since I've been here. Just food for thought gents!
 
hydeinmind said:
Also awhile back I bought a blade for a price via pm and the seller changed the asking price in the listing to a higher price then I paid.
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Woah...that seems really shady to me. I leave my prices most of the time and appreciate when others do as well...but that certainly throws a wrinkle in the works.

If I could have one wish though, it would be the end of "F&F/ x% fees added". Does nothing but create potential problems, I almost want to report the people who do this and post their email address in the sales thread to PayPal.

~Chip
 
hydeinmind said:
Also awhile back I bought a blade for a price via pm and the seller changed the asking price in the listing to a higher price then I paid. I thought that was interesting and a good potential marketing inflator if he was planing to sell another of the same model in the near future! I've seen more than one person do this since I've been here. Just food for thought gents!
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Yes...interesting...

Getting toasted on a deal is part of the culture.

There's 2 kinds of knife traders:

1. Those who admit they got reamed on a deal or two on a blade they fell in love with.

2. Those who lie and say they've never gotten burnt.
 
This has been thoroughly debated ad nauseum. I have always left prices up, and will continue to do so. YMMV. I hope that we can influence more sellers to follow suit.
 
I like when people leave them. I go years sometimes not selling anything and get out of the loop and when I do sell one it's nice to see what's a fair price to ask. I no some don't like it but I find it helpful. Just me though.
 
I've often wondered about this, it seems somewhat localized to this site. I often look through the classifieds and wish I knew what knives sold for, or at least what the seller was asking.
 
NJBillK said:
I often choose to delete mine so people that don't support the site can't use it as a reference to sell elsewhere.

You are a gold membership level. That means you can ask if a price is fair, or for an outright value on a certain knife. Don't be weary of exercising the rights you pay for.

I would rather push one to support the site, than slightly convenience everyone, especially since those that gain the most are those that don't support the site (otherwise they can just ask).
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This is one of the best arguments I've heard. If you are gold, ask your fellow gold members what a fair price is. That is what we pay for. What Rycen pointed out is the argument I tend make as I know how often the listed price is not the price sold or paid for. Last, I guess I never understood why some rely on others to determine the price of their item. The person who knows the most about how much something you own is worth is you. On the flip side, the person who knows how much they are willing to spend on a particular item is you.
 
hydeinmind said:
From my limited time as a paying member here I have found the listing values here to be less helpful then those on the bay to be perfectly honest. I've bought blades for the I'll take it asking price and the seller took the price down. I did not request that he do so but I was greatful as I overpaid and feel like that's the buyers and sellers business. Later on I got pms from members asking what I paid and I was happy to let them know as they were considering selling their blade of the same model. But the price I paid was well over market price so they didn't do near as well. Also awhile back I bought a blade for a price via pm and the seller changed the asking price in the listing to a higher price then I paid. I thought that was interesting and a good potential marketing inflator if he was planing to sell another of the same model in the near future! I've seen more than one person do this since I've been here. Just food for thought gents!
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Can you back this up with sale's thread's please. I am having a time researching your exchange post's. I am very interested in how the whole sale and buy market work's now a day's.
 
oge14 said:
Can you back this up with sale's thread's please. I am having a time researching your exchange post's. I am very interested in how the whole sale and buy market work's now a day's.[/QUOTE

Deal was made via text and phone calls so prob not in my history but you got me curious so I looked back at some old pms and what I really think it was was them putting the ppgs price or so on the sales thread, which is how I paid, and not the ppff which is what they were asking to start. So really no shadyness there to speak of. However as I mentioned earlier I've seen it done in threads I was watching but never bought or commented in. Asking price was one price then someone took it and was marked sold, then later price was listed at a higher price then originally asked. I thought it was just to throw ppl off at the time but who knows.
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I used to remove them because I thought the majority did the same. Now it seems to tip the other way, so I leave them up. I kinda like to see them left up, but it's up to the seller.
 
craytab said:
This is one of the best arguments I've heard. If you are gold, ask your fellow gold members what a fair price is. That is what we pay for. What Rycen pointed out is the argument I tend make as I know how often the listed price is not the price sold or paid for. Last, I guess I never understood why some rely on others to determine the price of their item. The person who knows the most about how much something you own is worth is you. On the flip side, the person who knows how much they are willing to spend on a particular item is you.
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I know that viewing past posted prices came in handy when someone got in touch with me about a Custom Shop blade that I got in a grab bag. Yes, it had a hang tag but that didnt really give me much to go on by "our" pricing standards and I had no idea what a fair price for both parties would be. Looked up similar blades, took the high number and the low number, agreed to a number right in the middle, everybody was happy.
 
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