Leave the sale price in the thread

I've decided to leave my asking prices up. Sometimes a knife will sell for less or get traded but I leave the original price up. I think it benefits everyone.

My biggest issue is the payment method. If someone wants pp gift or wants a buyer to add x%, I move on. It amazes me how people cannot see that using pp gift for something other than friends/family or a gift is unethical. If someone can't see the basic fundamental defrauding of pp, than why would I do any business with them?

Just be honest, pay your seller fees. If you need more money, build it into the asking price. I mean it's a small %, how much is your soul worth?
 
LukeTheSpook said:
I've decided to leave my asking prices up. Sometimes a knife will sell for less or get traded but I leave the original price up. I think it benefits everyone.

My biggest issue is the payment method. If someone wants pp gift or wants a buyer to add x%, I move on. It amazes me how people cannot see that using pp gift for something other than friends/family or a gift is unethical. If someone can't see the basic fundamental defrauding of pp, than why would I do any business with them?

Just be honest, pay your seller fees. If you need more money, build it into the asking price. I mean it's a small %, how much is your soul worth?
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I agree, something like this is bad form:

Hi, I have a Busse NMFBM for $800
-plus 0.001% (that's plus 80 cents fyi and it is my penny pinching profit percentage)
-shipping is included though (I can't get away with charging extra for that domestic shipping for some reason, but just wait until I find a way!)
-I'll also remove the sale price so no one can reference it in the future to try to gauge a price because someone posting a knife for $800 that sells it, is usually willing to sell it for $400 actually (trust me, happens all the time, so please remove sale prices)
-Thanks for taking part in a transaction that benefits the knife community
 
LukeTheSpook said:
I've decided to leave my asking prices up. Sometimes a knife will sell for less or get traded but I leave the original price up. I think it benefits everyone.

My biggest issue is the payment method. If someone wants pp gift or wants a buyer to add x%, I move on. It amazes me how people cannot see that using pp gift for something other than friends/family or a gift is unethical. If someone can't see the basic fundamental defrauding of pp, than why would I do any business with them?

Just be honest, pay your seller fees. If you need more money, build it into the asking price. I mean it's a small %, how much is your soul worth?
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I don't think it matters much one way or the other. I can't seem to understand what would encourage anyone to remove the sale price as if they were hiding something but it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

As far as asking for the buyer to pay the PP fees or send payment by way of PP Friends and Family......Really?

Have you ever bought anything from Gunsamerica or Gunbroker? Most sellers that offer credit cards as a payment option add 3% to the purchase price to cover their CC fees so what's the difference if it is done on BF? I'm pretty sure PP doesn't need our money, BF is a place of brotherly love and trust with an honor system so why not sell the knife for less and no one in theory has to pay the fees when F&F is used and the payment comes from a bank account so why not save everyone money?

From an ethics standpoint, if it makes you uneasy or you feel guilt than by all means don't do it but I'd rather save myself and friends here on BF a bucks when possible. From now on, I'd also recommend you only take one peppermint when leaving a restaurant and not two because I'm sure the store owners intended for people to only take one a piece.....
 
Sigarett said:
I don't think it matters much one way or the other. I can't seem to understand what would encourage anyone to remove the sale price as if they were hiding something but it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

As far as asking for the buyer to pay the PP fees or send payment by way of PP Friends and Family......Really?

Have you ever bought anything from Gunsamerica or Gunbroker? Most sellers that offer credit cards as a payment option add 3% to the purchase price to cover their CC fees so what's the difference if it is done on BF? I'm pretty sure PP doesn't need our money, BF is a place of brotherly love and trust with an honor system so why not sell the knife for less and no one in theory has to pay the fees when F&F is used and the payment comes from a bank account so why not save everyone money?

From an ethics standpoint, if it makes you uneasy or you feel guilt than by all means don't do it but I'd rather save myself and friends here on BF a bucks when possible. From now on, I'd also recommend you only take one peppermint when leaving a restaurant and not two because I'm sure the store owners intended for people to only take one a piece.....
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Obviously you don't read threads in GB&U often enough. "Where's my knife, what do I do?" "Did you send G&S" "No...F&F" "Damn, that's a shame." ...Over & over & over again since F&F became an option.

Not to mention... vvv
Jaxx said:
snip ...Whether you like it or not, PayPal provides a service. After years of bitching @ PP, they finally provide a free option to donate to charities and send money to friends & family, and immediately almost everyone started to use it for doing profitable business...then rant when they get screwed using it. I view it as a warning flag, not to mention the loss of buyer/ seller protection through PP. So, no protection and with someone you're more than likely to not know, and who doesn't mind f'ing PP out of their cut... Why stick around? :)
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I donate to A LOT of worthy charities & causes using PayPal...and I will be really pissed off if they ever decide to revoke the option because of folks abusing the option's intended use for their sales & profit. That is what G&S is for...
 
We're talking about trust and honor in the same post we talk about defrauding the company we use to pay each other. It's not a debate, unless you are sending money to a friend or gifting someone money then you need to pay the fee. If you are selling a good or a service, pay the fee. Anything else is dishonorable and a lie. No matter how many peppermints and how much brotherly admiration we have.

On a side note, we can convince ourselves that any behavior is ok if we talk about it enough. Prisons are full of guys that do it. So are law firms.
 
Obviously you don't read threads in GB&U oftenenough. "Where's my knife, what do I do?" "Did you send G&S" "No...F&F" "Damn, that's a shame." ...Over & over & over again since F&F became an option.

Not to mention... vvv

Your right, I don't follow the GB&U thread. I guess I've been lucky with the purchases I've made and the folks I've dealt with on BF.

Maybe, I'm slow but I'm not sure what vvv is....lol! Sorry
 
Sigarett said:
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Not to mention... vvv

Your right, I don't follow the GB&U thread. I guess I've been lucky with the purchases I've made and the folks I've dealt with on BF.

Maybe, I'm slow but I'm not sure what vvv is....lol! Sorry
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hahaha...he's pointing to his quote below with the " v v v " ... it's all good Sig!
 
vvv - down arrows, pointing you to the quoted text below it, which was:
Jaxx said:
snip ...Whether you like it or not, PayPal provides a service. After years of bitching @ PP, they finally provide a free option to donate to charities and send money to friends & family, and immediately almost everyone started to use it for doing profitable business...then rant when they get screwed using it. I view it as a warning flag, not to mention the loss of buyer/ seller protection through PP. So, no protection and with someone you're more than likely to not know, and who doesn't mind f'ing PP out of their cut... Why stick around? :)
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LukeTheSpook said:
We're talking about trust and honor in the same post we talk about defrauding the company we use to pay each other. It's not a debate, unless you are sending money to a friend or gifting someone money then you need to pay the fee. If you are selling a good or a service, pay the fee. Anything else is dishonorable and a lie. No matter how many peppermints and how much brotherly admiration we have.

On a side note, we can convince ourselves that any behavior is ok if we talk about it enough. Prisons are full of guys that do it. So are law firms.
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I understand your point but it's no longer PP "Gift".... It's "Friends and Family" and there is a difference so keep that in mind.

That said, I'm not a retailer, I'm not in the business of selling knives, I'm not selling blades for a profit....I effectively am selling to friends online just that same as I would my next door neighbor...not quite but similar.

Clearly, I'm not a person that retains the moral fiber you do to speak and judge others with such a level of self righteous superiority that you can. I'm sure you never break the speed limit or don't quite stop for a stop sign either.

Look, I'm entitled to my opinion as are you and I prefer to not have a disagreement over the morales of or how to sell a blade. I was unaware of the shady deals that Jaxx pointed out so maybe I'll have to rethink it next time but like I said before, I've been impressed the honor system on BF has worked so well whether you think I'm honorable or not and don't really care if you do. You can always choose not to buy and I can always choose not sell to you for any reason I choose.....
 
After reading all yawls comments on PP ethics and etiquette I will always include pp and shipping in asking price if I ever choose to sell on here again and I'm not being sarcastic. I already always pay via goods, +3.5% or not.
 
If you really want the price to stay in the thread I suggest making a post in the thread including the price. Since this thread most prices have still been deleted . Even by those who posted in this thread they would leave the price up.
 
bullpin said:
If you really want the price to stay in the thread I suggest making a post in the thread including the price. Since this thread most prices have still been deleted . Even by those who posted in this thread they would leave the price up.
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Yes, funny how that works isn't it? Love this suggestion, if the buyer want's to post "I will take it for $750" that is prerogative. Problem solved! If the buyer requests me to leave the price up (This has never happened) No Problem, I would be more than happy to honor this request! ! The World is now a better place :thumbsup:
 
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Ratman79 said:
I leave the price up; I think taking it down is just shady. What is there to hide? Why the cloak-and dagger routine? Are you a flipper out to rip off the unsuspecting? Those questions certainly cross my mind. Whether that is truly what's happening is anyone's guess. It just gives an unfavorable impression is all.
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This sounds reasonable,^^^ maybe folks are trying to hide their buying and selling from their significant other. :rolleyes:
 
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