Leave the sale price in the thread

[shunsui]

I think that BF should make a new rule on the whole forum that prices be left intack after a sale. I belong to several gun forums and they do not give any access to the listing as far as changes go after they are originally made. You can post more information in the thread but cannot change what's already been listed or stated. That way there isn't any under handed stuff going on and you have to list where your mailing said item from also. They have actually caught several scammers that were trying to take folks for a ride running sales ads this way.

This is the best idea I've ever heard on the subject.

 

[resinguy]

I can't see the Management of BF making that change.

We can make it part of our community here, by way of example, but we can't require it.

 

[PeteyTwoPointOne]

Do you guys think we have a big problem with scammers on the Busse Exchange?

And if you answered "Yes," Do you think locking sellers out of their own posts will help stop that?

I know what I can afford to buy regardless of what price the seller lists their blades at. And if I don't feel it's a good deal, there's at least 2 options at my disposal:
1. Pass .
-or-
2. Ask the seller if they'll discount the sale.

Simple. The only time I get scammed is if I allow myself to be scammed. Just like with a vampire in a horror movie, he's got no power over me unless I invite him in...caveat emptor. Educate yourselves, make friends with trustworthy HOGS and learn from their wisdom they share with you.

I want the liberty to handle my posts in any way I see fit as long as there's no abject abuse of that liberty by Forumites.

There's a massive difference between campaigning for members to choose to leave their prices up vs. asking for more regulation.

I am on the side of more freedom, as opposed to more regulation. Retain the liberty to let the members choose how to handle their own posts unless there's real abuse of privileges. In other words, keep it as it now stands.

 

[hhmoore]

This is a practice driven by the membership - if increasing numbers of people choose one path, people will see that path as "the way".
I do leave prices; but I change the information to a subdued color, followed by a bolded indication that the item is sold.
ie: $300, shipped SOLD!!
I also close my ads when the items are sold. (Honestly, I would prefer to lock my ads from the start; and delete them when the transactions are completed...but the latter option isn't going to be permitted, and - accordingly - a locked ad is generally assumed to be dead.

 

[t.willy]

I always leave my prices up. Mostly because it has helped me in the past to be able to see the price someone was asking for a certain knife. Also because I don't mind one bit if it shows I've bought a blade for x amount of money then sold it for more. I buy plenty of knives that I then decide I don't care for for one reason or another and turn around and have to take a loss. So if I get the opportunity to actually recupe a few bucks every once in awhile I'm not one bit worried of how it might look lol. I agree 100% with leaving the choice up to the individual person
For sure.

 

[evlDan]

Do you guys think we have a big problem with scammers on the Busse Exchange?

And if you answered "Yes," Do you think locking sellers out of their own posts will help stop that?

I know what I can afford to buy regardless of what price the seller lists their blades at. And if I don't feel it's a good deal, there's at least 2 options at my disposal:
1. Pass .
-or-
2. Ask the seller if they'll discount the sale.

Simple. The only time I get scammed is if I allow myself to be scammed. Just like with a vampire in a horror movie, he's got no power over me unless I invite him in...caveat emptor. Educate yourselves, make friends with trustworthy HOGS and learn from their wisdom they share with you.

I want the liberty to handle my posts in any way I see fit as long as there's no abject abuse of that liberty by Forumites.

There's a massive difference between campaigning for members to choose to leave their prices up vs. asking for more regulation.

I am on the side of more freedom, as opposed to more regulation. Retain the liberty to let the members choose how to handle their own posts unless there's real abuse of privileges. In other words, keep it as it now stands.

I think community involvement is much more desirable to regulation. This topic has been discussed in depth as stated before and I think that everyone should do as they wish. Do I prefer prices up? Yes, but I don't believe that we should create rules just because we disagree. I think most of the sellers have proven to be honest and trustworthy around here. Because of this I don't think we should advocate regulation based on fear of something that isn't the cause of the argument. Until there is a legitimate problem as Petey stated we should do what we think is right as individuals, and exercise our right to communicate what we prefer in a discussion such as this. At the same time we shouldn't be surprised that not everyone will agree and respect their decisions.

 

[KnifeKnutz]

Are there any forum approved ways to support the leaving in sale prices with action?

I can think of one that would ruffle some feathers surely: make a response something like this to all sale postings: "is this a xxx model for sale for $yyy dollars" . Seller can't remove the info you want anymore lol.

Another way would be to create a history of the sale pages in a thread.

 

[resinguy]

I can think of one that would ruffle some feathers surely: make a response something like this to all sale postings: "is this a xxx model for sale for $yyy dollars" . Seller can't remove the info you want anymore lol.

This sort of comment would likely draw an infraction by a Mod. They really frown upon any unnecessary comments in a Sale thread.

 

[hhmoore]

If in an ad that accepts posts, one could quote the listing and remove the fluff - just leaving the blurb about the specific knife (model and price) - when claiming.
Of course, that is more easily justified in an ad with more than one item for sale; and sellers that delete prices might not be happy about it.

 

[hydeinmind]

Is it bad form to ask what a blade sold for in a pm if the sales price is no longer listed? I don't have a problem w it buying or selling, but what does the community here generally practice? The way I see it your taking someone's word for it ether way!

 

[hhmoore]

I don't think the actual selling price is any of a third party's business, really; but I've respectfully inquired about the price at which it was posted (and ONLY if it was very recently sold).

 

[Steven65]

I only buy on BF, I never sell.

As such I much prefer that the sale price of my purchases be deleted once the transaction is concluded. And I generally ask the seller to do that.

I know that this is not the popular view but it is my business and my business only what I paid for a particular item in the past.

 

[TommyGun56]

I don't think the actual selling price is any of a third party's business, really; but I've respectfully inquired about the price at which it was posted (and ONLY if it was very recently sold).

Agree, the transaction is ultimately between the buyer and seller-NO ONE ELSE!! If this becomes a rule or standard Practice on the forum I will abide by it-However let's just inherent this policy also
Seller must also list what he or she originally paid for the knife! If were going to make some changes let's do them right
For Sale CGFBM New and Unused $800! I originally purchased this knife in 2007 for $427! (I am pretty sure most will not agree with this suggestion! I wonder why not?)
No one ever influenced me to remove the sales price from a knife I sold! I always thought it was a common courtesy as some people may have felt embarrassed that they had paid too much for a particular knife, or were going to try and re-sell it at a profit! Either way "I Do Not Care what an individual does with a knife after I have sold it to them" It is their Knife! I have also bought many knives on the exchange and have never asked someone to remove the price! The Transaction in the end is between the buyer and seller IMO!
So my feelings at the moment are this-Cheers!!

 

[PeteyTwoPointOne]

Is it bad form to ask what a blade sold for in a pm if the sales price is no longer listed? I don't have a problem w it buying or selling, but what does the community here generally practice? The way I see it your taking someone's word for it ether way!

I <personally> don't consider it bad form if you ask via PM...

However, I don't like it when someone posts in my sales thread, "How much did this sell for?" And this, of course, becomes a non-issue if listing prices are left in the thread.

Asking stuff like that is brash, and it for sure clutters the thread which is what the mods consider "unnecessary comments" and likely to draw an infraction, at least.

 

[RedbeAR15]

Are there any forum approved ways to support the leaving in sale prices with action?

I can think of one that would ruffle some feathers surely: make a response something like this to all sale postings: "is this a xxx model for sale for $yyy dollars" . Seller can't remove the info you want anymore lol.

Another way would be to create a history of the sale pages in a thread.

Or if you don't want the price deleted, you could just quote the sellers info when you confirm the purchase in the sales thread

 

[360joules]

I'm the same as Timmy....it usually depends on my mood and fairly often I do leave my prices up. Often I will take the prices down for the purpose of making it perfectly clear that a knife is no longer available (particularly in threads with multiple items for sale). I do happily answer questions asking about a selling price for those who ask via PM.

That said, creating a rule to make me, as a seller, responsible for your future pricing gets my hackles up. It reeks of entitlement. I don't intend to seem bullish or arrogant or whatever, but that's just the wrong reason to make a rule, IMO.

There are ways without making rules or contacting the seller to at least see the price that was in a sales thread. Websites like the 'way back machine' or other similar internet history sites could have screenshots of the page while the sale was still active. It won't always reflect the actual agreed-upon sales price, but could give you the information you are after.

 

[JohnTheTexican]

I said it before, and I'll say it again:

I Blame Porkerson.

 

[PeteH]

Interesting. I thought it was a fairly straight forward issue, but after reading the responses I realize that, as usual, there is more than one side. I agree that the final selling price is no one else's business if you don't want it to be. And, there is no good reason for the forum to force people to do it one way or another. I've just seen this become more and more common in recent years and I wanted people to think before they wiped the selling price because selling price is useful information. I would like to see leaving the selling price become the forum standard, and removing the price a personal choice, but I would not want to see those preferences imposed on others.

I liked hhmore's suggestion of changing the font to a subdued color and then putting SOLD in bold. It leaves the price in but avoids people PMing you with offers. And, if you want to take the decision out of the seller's hands, RedbeAR15 had the answer, quoting the selling price in your response (i.e., posting "I'll take the FSH at $700" rather than just "I'll take it").

 

[boring]

People come here for info on knives. probably second most popular question after "what is it". To those that are scared of people seeing the price, why do you have the stance "nobody's business"?

 

[unwisefool]

I think having the prices available is handy. When I have sold things I generally leave the price up because I'm too lazy to change it.