Leek with Sandvik 13C26 at 64-65??

Dog of War said:
but that isn't going to change the fact that 13C26 at 58-60 HRC has already proven itself, and has outstanding edge holding.
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What Dog of War said! :thumbup:

Dog of War said:
I'm certain Kershaw has good reasons for what it does, and the decisions made with this Sandvik steel are no exception.
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IIRC, Larrin and Roman mention practices such as multiple quenches and multiple boiling between tempering cycles. Furnace to oil to tempering oven seems complicated enough for supplying 13C26 goodies to Wal-Mart, NGK, KO, etcetera without adding in additional soirtees between the furnace and quench tank or a kettle and the tempering oven.

Pretty sure those extra steps take money and time that would either cut into our knife budgets or Kershaw's profits and make this sort of request best used in a few and far between manner.
 
Here it is:

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In all the cutting I've done with 13C26 it has never once done anything but maintain the most stable consistant edge of any other steel I've ever used, and thats at any of the various hardnesses. This steel can wear many hats. Some seem to think that just because a steel started out for ball bearings, or for razor blades that it essentially means its forever thereafter locked into only being used just for that since it was initially designed for that.

Well, 440C was originally used for mirrors and many mirrors are in fact still made from it based on what I was once told when it first came out in the cutlery industry when I was just a lad and yet someone saw that it not only took a darn nice mirror polish but that it could also work in sporting cutlery and do so quite well.

13C26 has proven itself. Its not just for razor blades anymore folks! Off shoots of this steel could prove very favorable for the knife industry in my opinon.

STR
 
raindog101 said:
Sooo, where can I get a peek at this beauty? New Graham has no pictures, and I'm not sure what this "TKS" that svrider3 refers to is. Somebody help me out here...
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Sorry about that....I should have just posted the link to make it more user friendly. :o Glad my buds chipped in and put the pic and link in for you. :)

I'm so excited about this knife I'm having to sit on my hands to keep from clapping and waving at everyone that walks by. :D
 
Sign me up for one as well. I've been wanting a Leek with a harder steel but without paying the premium for S30V. Plus, OD handles are my favorite color for a folder. Can't wait to order one next week.
 
thombrogan said:
IIRC, Larrin and Roman mention practices such as multiple quenches and multiple boiling between tempering cycles. Furnace to oil to tempering oven seems complicated enough for supplying 13C26 goodies to Wal-Mart, NGK, KO, etcetera without adding in additional soirtees between the furnace and quench tank or a kettle and the tempering oven.

Pretty sure those extra steps take money and time that would either cut into our knife budgets or Kershaw's profits and make this sort of request best used in a few and far between manner.
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You must have a crystal ball, Thom -- sounds like it may be more difficult than even Kershaw expected:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506050
 
Originally Posted by thombrogan
IIRC, Larrin and Roman mention practices such as multiple quenches and multiple boiling between tempering cycles. Furnace to oil to tempering oven seems complicated enough for supplying 13C26 goodies to Wal-Mart, NGK, KO, etcetera without adding in additional soirtees between the furnace and quench tank or a kettle and the tempering oven.

Pretty sure those extra steps take money and time that would either cut into our knife budgets or Kershaw's profits and make this sort of request best used in a few and far between manner.
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Exactly. When one project fails, or even two or three you have to look at all the successful ones as justification for the risk I guess. Hopefully there will be more successfull projects with some other new or exciting steels reaching end line users hands. Doesn't have to be this one.

STR
 
I can't find fault with the Sandvik 13C26 steel, "as is".:thumbup:.:thumbup:.
 
STR said:
Exactly. When one project fails, or even two or three you have to look at all the successful ones as justification for the risk I guess. Hopefully there will be more successfull projects with some other new or exciting steels reaching end line users hands. Doesn't have to be this one.
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Exactly, and I'm sure something was learned that could be very valuable going forward.

Besides ... seems like a lot of people liked the handle scales and DLC coating, a very handsome knife IMO. I'd certainly buy one (or more) made this way with the regular heat treat.

glockman99 said:
I can't find fault with the Sandvik 13C26 steel, "as is".:thumbup:.:thumbup:.
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After 7 months with my JYD2, and now the ENER-G2, I totally agree. I guess we just naturally ask "What additional performance could we get from this steel?", but I honestly don't find myself wanting for anything more from it.
 
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