Let's see ya cold weather wear !

I'd love some snow.

CanDo, what do you wear on your legs when hiking in NH winter conditions? What boots and crampons in the pic? I've read about people using Microspikes + snowshoes for almost everywhere but looking at your pic it seems they would be horribly inadequate? What puffy were you wearing and were you warm when stopped? *I know everyone's metabolism and tolerance for cold is unique*

Thanks. Hopefully I'll be out there sooner than later. :thumbup:
 
I was looking at that jacket/sweater this past weekend.
I havent owned any down stuff before.
I am looking for a lightweight warm jacket to take with
when I do some running,hiking through the winter.
How does this jacket do when damp from sweat?

As a general rule, I'd stay away from down if you plan on doing a lot of sweating. As you probably already know, down fibers lose their ability to insulate if they get wet, whereas synthetic fibers will not. If there's a chance of the fibers getting wet and the stakes are high, just stick with synthetic.

I haven't exposed this jacket to heavy perspiration - if I start to sweat, I take off layers and a down layer is probably the first thing to come off. There are times when you definitely can't avoid perspiration though and if you have to be wearing something warm then, I'd stick with synthetic (note that other than an emergency down vest that I pack, this is my only piece of down gear - everything else is synthetic or synthetic/wool).

That all said, this particular piece of kit IS water repellent. I've worn it in light rain and heavy fog before; the moisture beads up and doesn't penetrate into the fill. It is also very breathable. Worn over a base layer and one or two mid layers, you wouldn't have a problem with it trapping moisture.

I mean,if I heat up and then slow down,get a chill and put this on,
does it breath well or soak up the moisture?
It should breathe well. Wearing it right after running should be fine, but I wouldn't wear it during high-stress activities.

Maybe I should go with the polyfil nanopuff version?

This is what I would probably recommend. No piece of clothing can stay 100% dry. As breathable as the down option is, some moisture will inevitably be retained and this retained moisture will have a greater impact on its performance than on the synthetic version.
Down in general,good for high aerobic activities?
No. Excellent for lower stress activities and would do well to keep the chill down after your heart rate slows. However, if you are knowingly throwing moisture at a piece of clothing, I'd stick with synthetic.

Now, THAT all said, it's largely personal preference. It's a debate that's been going on for decades and both sides have valid arguments.




CanDo, what do you wear on your legs when hiking in NH winter conditions?
Long Underwear and zip-off synthetic pants (same ones I wear in the summer). I tend to hike with the pants zipped off at lower altitudes. As it gets cold or weathery, I might add a second pair of thermals or put on a waterproof shell (like snowboard or ski pants).

What boots and crampons in the pic?

Boots? Haha, no, my boots were too far away when I got word for this trip. Those are my Merrell Radials. Very stupid and dangerous thing to do, but I must say, they kept me perfectly warm and I felt like the road runner with such light feet.

I've read about people using Microspikes + snowshoes for almost everywhere but looking at your pic it seems they would be horribly inadequate?
That's a valid option. If you look in the background, you'll see my friend was wearing a pair of mini snowshoes. Mountaineering snow shoes have crampons on the bottom - sort of. They're typically pieces of toothed steel or aluminum rather than spikes. They bite in, but not as well. She had to wear them that day to maintain a foot angle that kept pressure off of an injury. They're not as efficient as crampons, but often can be used instead. I don't own microspikes but have heard a lot of good things about them. Personally, I like to be able to dig into the ice when the winds pick up over 50mph and I don't expect I'd get that feeling with microspikes.

Yes, microspikes would be horribly inadequate for that slope, but that's when you'd switch to snow shoes and be OK.

It's mostly personal preference. I wear crampons and bring snowshoes a little larger than most people carry. This makes me feel safe about being able to navigate nearly any ground conditions. I'd recommend borrowing gear from someone or renting and see what suits your tastes.

What puffy were you wearing and were you warm when stopped? *I know everyone's metabolism and tolerance for cold is unique*

That day... I'm not sure since I didn't have my usual gear. Generic fleece pullover, thermal shirt, synthetic t-shirt and maybe a sweater. Like I said, it was in the 20s or upper teens. The wind was the real concern and my shell blocks it effectively. I lounged on the summit for a pretty good amount of time and was perfectly comfortable the whole time.
 
I was looking at that jacket/sweater this past weekend.
I havent owned any down stuff before.
I am looking for a lightweight warm jacket to take with
when I do some running,hiking through the winter.
How does this jacket do when damp from sweat?
I mean,if I heat up and then slow down,get a chill and put this on,
does it breath well or soak up the moisture?

Maybe I should go with the polyfil nanopuff version?

Down in general,good for high aerobic activities?

Wouldn't you have to be getting kinda hot to sweat? Some of it has to do with one's genetic propensity for sweat volume; and another good portion to environment, as to what% stays in clothing.

I chose down because I wanted max insulation/ounce + minimum volume. I feel confident that between Wp stuff sack and Wp/B shell I can keep it dry enough - day after day. My bag sees more constant use but is not so dissimilar- so when I can- I dry it out. Let the sun bang on it or wind blow on it and keeps toasty.

Obviously if you are steaming and put this over; It will absorb the vapor. do that all the time for days in subfreezing conditions and you may ice up.

I am unlikely to be stuck in such harsh conditions as high alpine mountaineering expedition. I have fire and could if needed burn wood down to embers and dry things out, nor am I going to PCN with constant threat of constant rain.
 
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Old pics... the items have changed a bit but still the same concept.

thin base layer
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Hey Rick , I was wondering; do you typically wear both anoraks, or 2 only when needed? Take 2 to alternate between days, or pick one and stick with it over the course
 
The Anorak is my walking shelter. I usually keep it rolled up on a tumpline or in my ALICE pack. I will wear only one layer if I need it and two if the weather turns really foul. I'm good down to about -25C in one layer and have been in -47C with both.
 
Love this thread as I really want to get some decent cold weather gear so I can get out more this winter.

Thanks Pit for starting it and thanks to all for adding to it!
 
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Thanks very much for your thoughts CanDo!
I appreciate your time.
I think I will go for the poly nano version.
Thanks!



Wouldn't you have to be getting kinda hot to sweat? Some of it has to do with one's genetic propensity for sweat volume; and another good portion to environment, as to what% stays in clothing.

To fully explain my intent for this jacket,
I do a lot of running. In winter these runs
are still over 6 hours long. When running that long,I take
walk breaks to "cool down". Toward the end of these runs,
with energy low,I am not running as fast,therefore generating less
heat. I need to put a jacket on to stop from freezing.
(I have a very light but old Arc`Teryx windbreaker I pack that has literally
saved my bacon a few times as wind picked up and I slowed down)
So,by the time I put this jacket on,I am pretty wet.I need to
"dry out" yet keep warm until I can run again and generate more heat.
The ArcTeryx just doesnt breath well and isnt warm enough for my use.
Also,as you guys know,winds can pick up and drop the chill
to dangerous levels in winter,carrying a wind blocking layer
is really required in my book.

Thanks Briarbrow


Yes;excellent thread and I dont mean to monopolize it :thumbup:
 
Down in general,good for high aerobic activities?

no- it's not at all, it's great (doesn't get better) when that high aerobic activity is halted though

for high aerobic activities (running/x-country skiing/snowshoeing/etc) a thin base layer and a wind shirt is usually all that is need, if it's especially cold I add a Power Dry (Patagonia R1) to the mix- warm, but breathes extremely well and dries extremely fast

I do carry a down garment, but it's reserved for stops/rests

I see lots of folks severely overdressing for winter activities and then sweating profusely, soaking their clothing- that's extremely dangerous
 
snowshoeing (me), x-country skiing (wife)- light merino base layer, light windshirt, power dry pants, light merino hat, buff- my wife is similarly dressed- temps ~ 20 degrees, insulating layers in our packs- most of the day I was in my base layer on top

the goal in the winter is to stay dry

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We get a lot of wind in my area. I really like the Filson Tin Cloth Packer Coat with the heaviest wool liner for those times. It totally stops wind from getting to your torso.

For a lighter garment, I think the Western Mountaineering Flight Jacket is terrific. Very warm and only 12 oz. in the XL size. I use it extensively for backpacking. It's also great for day hikes because you hardly notice the weight or bulk.

When it gets really cold: Marmot 8000 Meter Parka. Probably the only thing better is from Feathered Friends in Seattle.

DancesWithKnives
 
I wish we had some 7 degree weather down here. About a strait week of it and we would not have the cactus and fire ant problem we do.
 
Down jacket and gortex jacket for wet and windy.

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Yeah it doesn't get very cold here in Oz. At least not not below 1000m
 
snowshoeing (me), x-country skiing (wife)- light merino base layer, light windshirt, power dry pants, light merino hat, buff- my wife is similarly dressed- temps ~ 20 degrees, insulating layers in our packs- most of the day I was in my base layer on top

the goal in the winter is to stay dry

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Maybe this is none of my business; but rather than spending on gear you guys may want to budget a little for home repair!
 
I just picked up a Woolrich Alaskan and another Woolrich jacket they don't make anymore. I got them for around $30 each on eBay. I'm totally stoked with both! The jacket is super nice, four front pockets, the sleeves are lines with diamond quilt polyester and the body with polyester Sherpa. Warm and very comfy, almost too warm for here!
The Alaskan is great for here, plenty warm for most of the weather here and blocks wind pretty well too. And the price I got them, all the better!
 
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