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Well was anyone else disappointed by the catalog update? Seemed like no real new pictures, and it was dated for today so I’m not expecting anything
 
Ron Sabbagh said:
Agree. 54 is my current fav GEC

Would love to see a Sowbelly stockman

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"Would love to see a Sowbelly stockman"......me too. I could get one in a Case but then, Case's tree blade knives have blade rub issues but GEC makes their 3 blade knives right and the sow belly is a great user design. I have a Case single blade sowbelly that I love to use. Very comfortable pattern. It doesn't hurt to hope.
 
EngrSorenson said:
Well was anyone else disappointed by the catalog update? Seemed like no real new pictures, and it was dated for today so I’m not expecting anything
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Actually, I hadn't looked in a while and was stoked to see the 86s coming along so fast!

Those are going to destroy my budget when they start to roll out. And how exciting is the Forum knife?
 
I hear a lot about blade rub bothering people, so maybe some of you can chime in. My #35 had some minor blade rub but it doesnt really bother me; I just take it as a sign of a well utilized knife. I think it only effects appearance when the rub is minimal as is the case with most multi-blades. Is it not to be expected? I would guess in decades past people weren’t critical of blade rub, but that’s just a guess.
 
I guess I just expect blade rub on knives where two blades share a spring.
I'm okay with slight blade rub as long as it's not so severe that it interferes with the closing of the blades.
I have a Case Large Stockman that rubs so bad I have to push the main blade closed. :(:thumbsdown:
 
EngrSorenson said:
I hear a lot about blade rub bothering people, so maybe some of you can chime in. My #35 had some minor blade rub but it doesnt really bother me; I just take it as a sign of a well utilized knife. I think it only effects appearance when the rub is minimal as is the case with most multi-blades. Is it not to be expected? I would guess in decades past people weren’t critical of blade rub, but that’s just a guess.
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Quite true.Blade rub never bothered me until I joined this forum. I was never aware of blade rub in the past because those old knives got really used so any scrapes and bruises on the knife just added to patina and character. I never even gave blade rub a thought. Now, however , it ways on the idea of buying.
Edit to way in on what JohnDF just said.That is my concern about blade rub also. I have a Case medium stockman that I have to push the main blade closed because the blade rub hangs it up. That can leave a mark.
 
I take everything I read on this forum with a grain of salt. There are some who are hyper critical of these knives that are for the most part dam near perfect. I understand some of it if you are a strict collector the rest I write off to the complaint box that is the internet. If it doesn't interfere with the function of the tool or is so minor that I am amazed that it was noticed I move on and order the knife.
 
My view is that blade-rub isn't something to be 'expected' but it is likely on multi-blades. It is VERY pleasing when it's absent, it is more annoying on stainless blade knives due to their potential shine factor when not matte/brushed. But then, that's unlikely to be a GEC bugbear given their reluctance to offer stainless;):D That said, the two stainless Conductors I own (single-spring) show no rub, quite a few CASE knives do show it, none of the multi blades Queens have it though. Judge for yourself, it's better when it's not there though:thumbsup:
 
On a knife where multiple blades have to pass each other in a single blade well I don’t know why blade rub would bother anyone unless they are binding against each other making it hard to open or close. Now if it’s a single blade knife or a knife where the blades are separated in their own blade wells, there’s no reason they should be off centre to the point of rubbing, that’s just poor craftsmanship.
I’ve not had a GEC where I felt there was any significant defect of any kind. Slightly off Center, slight blade rub, kinda dull, noticeable transitions, poor blade etch. I’ve had all these, (not all on the same knife), but I use em all so none of these were particularly problematic. Obviously I had to sharpen the dull one, (or two or three, lol) and one transition needed a quick going over with some sandpaper but not a huge deal. If I was a collector for the sake of displaying only, the transition would have been no concern as you couldn’t see it but it felt sharp. And the etch I suppose would have been an issue but after a couple days of use, I’ve never seen it again.
 
It has been my experience that the majority of blade rub is due to pushing against a blade when opening it. This is especially true of users who come from a primarily modern knife experience, where you do put pressure against a knob or spydie hole to open a knife one-handed. To open a multi-blade traditional knife I put my thumb nail in the nick and pinch the spine of the blade with my index finger against the thumbnail, and then pull straight up. If you have a tight blade or a shallow nick, then open the middle blade first, giving plenty of room to open the outer blade using more pressure. Then close the middle blade before use.
 
black mamba said:
It has been my experience that the majority of blade rub is due to pushing against a blade when opening it. This is especially true of users who come from a primarily modern knife experience, where you do put pressure against a knob or spydie hole to open a knife one-handed. To open a multi-blade traditional knife I put my thumb nail in the nick and pinch the spine of the blade with my index finger against the thumbnail, and then pull straight up. If you have a tight blade or a shallow nick, then open the middle blade first, giving plenty of room to open the outer blade using more pressure. Then close the middle blade before use.
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The only thing I hate more than blade rub, is having my thumbnail bend backwards. :eek:
Actually, I don't mind blade rub at all, as long as the blade isn't binding. My nails are weak, so I do have to push inwards against the blade, I can't pry straight up unless it's a very weak pull.
We all have our pet peeves, and reading here, we can seem like a picky bunch. ;)
 
black mamba said:
It has been my experience that the majority of blade rub is due to pushing against a blade when opening it. This is especially true of users who come from a primarily modern knife experience, where you do put pressure against a knob or spydie hole to open a knife one-handed. To open a multi-blade traditional knife I put my thumb nail in the nick and pinch the spine of the blade with my index finger against the thumbnail, and then pull straight up. If you have a tight blade or a shallow nick, then open the middle blade first, giving plenty of room to open the outer blade using more pressure. Then close the middle blade before use.
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This makes sense. With my Calf Ropers I can virtually eliminate run by opening the sheepfoot first. Only one of the three Calf Ropers I have (yes, my favorite GEC for many reasons) shows any blade rub at all. It’s merely a feature of that knife and doesn’t impact its function. If it did that would be a problem to be fixed.

r8shell said:
The only thing I hate more than blade rub, is having my thumbnail bend backwards. :eek:
Actually, I don't mind blade rub at all, as long as the blade isn't binding. My nails are weak, so I do have to push inwards against the blade, I can't pry straight up unless it's a very weak pull.
We all have our pet peeves, and reading here, we can seem like a picky bunch. ;)
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That’s why I have to be careful about which knives I keep or can buy. Chemo is in the process of destroying my nails. Softer pulls are definitely good for me, or pinchable like the 93s. Not a big deal. If @onearmedknifenut can handle it, so can I.
 
Personally, I do not find blade rub to be too troublesome. In fact, I have come to expect it in most any 3 blade knife I own (GEC, Queen, Case, etc), it isn't exclusive to any brand in particular. When you put 3 blades together in a nice tidy package, there is bound to be some unwanted touching.

If I am using the knife, the rub is simply a symptom of use like patina, pepper spots and such. If I do not plan on using the knife or haven't gotten around to it yet, then I simply leave it in the case and don't mess with it too much.

All that said above, as Will said, when you don't have any rub, it really is quite a delight. My Churchill is a perfect example of a finely executed single spring pattern. Perfect fit, no rub, in a nice tidy package.
 
At least if I ever get a knife with blade rub there are plenty of you that are willing to buy it and don't see it as a negative and think its worth just as much as one without apparently. ;)

When I buy a car I expect the doors to close with even gaps and for it to go straight down the road. A chair or table better have four even legs. No different than anything else I buy. If you're a craftsman and that's all you do, and you can't get it straight, you might want to look into another trade.
 
Cars cost $30,000 and more today and they still come with warranties to fix their defects.

Traditional knives seem to be tools (for the majority of folks) or collector/investment pieces for a few others. It’s impossible to find perfection but one can keep trying. Costly though.
 
Boxer .45 said:
At least if I ever get a knife with blade rub there are plenty of you that are willing to buy it and don't see it as a negative and think its worth just as much as one without apparently. ;)

When I buy a car I expect the doors to close with even gaps and for it to go straight down the road. A chair or table better have four even legs. No different than anything else I buy. If you're a craftsman and that's all you do, and you can't get it straight, you might want to look into another trade.
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^ A recipe for constant disappointment and angst. ^
I respect your right to want what you want though, I just won't put myself through that. Plenty else to worry about here...
 
Where's the rub? :D There isn't any :cool: That's when it was bought and still after nearly 3 years of patina/use, still none:thumbsup:

What's the connexion with GEC??? These BB Winchesters were made by Queen when Bill Howard was in house back in the late 80s early 90s. The drink is not clouding my vision either:D

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As Pàdruig Pàdruig points out, the Churchill is a great single-spring pattern with no rub. It also boasts a moderate pull yet a decent snap, a very welcome achievement.

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