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Well, it looks like if I ask my dad's cousin to buy the gun for me then buy it from him I can legally open carry in Virginia on campus at 18, and at 21 I can get my CCW. By the way, 21 for a CCW is normal. I also refuse to set foot on NYC ground without full combat gear and an entire company of Marines with me.

Edit: I may not even have to buy it from family, I might be able to walk into a licensed dealer give them money, and walk out with a handgun and ammo for it. Gotta look a little harder because I could swear there was a federal law against anyone under 21 buying a handgun.
 
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Its my understanding that in ny (or at least where I am) there is no open carry. I've never been to New york city I'm from upstate (western NY) I don't really have any interest to go their either haha. Hopefully I will be picking up my pistol next Thursday after I go through the last step of getting my permit.
 
Open carry is illegal in Florida too...

Well, I guess my edit was wrong. I do have to buy it from family, or at least not a licensed dealer.
 
Be sure to check the state laws man, I know up here you cant be in possession of one without a pistol permit and you sure as shit cant be caring one with out a permit, and anytime you buy/sell a pistol it has to be put on/taken off of your permit. Most of it is just a pain in the ass so be sure you know the law and don't get your self a felony haha
 
Virginia only requires a permit for concealed carry, everything else is perfectly legal, no permits.

Florida requires CCW to purchase a handgun.

The most gun-friendly NROTC school I found in Virginia is Radford, and they require you to store your gun with the University police, no ammo allowed, no carry allowed... So it's back to Paris Island or my right to bear arms. On the other hand I didn't see anything about knives.

They don't seem to see knives as an issue, so I'll take state law into consideration at Radford. Utah still looks better for laws on guns at college. And I might possibly be able to move back east of the Mississippi before they ship me out for basic.
 
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I would pick a college based on academics not if they let you bring a gun to school or not. Even if state law allows you to carry a gun most schools have no firearms/weapons policies anyways.
 
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Eeros right...Plus bringing a gun to school is just weird IMO...

The RAT-1 seems like a cool knife... Never made scales for a folder that turned out well so I might get one just for the hell of it...Orange G-10? But for $60ish AUD and probably not having many chances to use it I might pass.
 
oXide said:
Is choosing a college based on Conceal Carry laws a bad way to go about it?
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It is in my opinion. However, if your sole goal is to complete an ROTC program for a career in the military, then I'd privilege the ROTC considerations and not worry so much about carry laws/policies.
If you're only looking at the military as a temporary stint, then you're going to want to look at academic rigor. Mainly because you're going to need a job after you get out of the Marines.
 
Don't you have to be 21 to get a carry permit in most places anyway? I'm a huge proponent of the right to keep and bear arms, but there is a lot of stupidity and theft in dorms, so I wouldn't even make that part of your consideration. It's actually the one year anniversary of my CCW permit being issued today. Nov 1 of last year, WI finally joined 48 other states in acknowledging a persons 2A rights.
 
oXide said:
Florida requires CCW to purchase a handgun.
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Since when ? I'm from Fl and have bought handguns without a CCW for 24 yrs. If you have a ccw you don't have to wait 3 days. You can walk in, purchase a handgun and walk out with it.
 
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Since when ? I'm from Fl and have bought handguns without a CCW for 24 yrs.
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Since 1997. You're in a lot of trouble. :D
Seriously, I don't know of any state that REQUIRES a carry license to purchase a firearm.
 
Suggestion: let's make chat popular today. Otherwise I will randomly post pictures of my sutures in knife-related threads.
 
Guyon said:
Seriously, I don't know of any state that REQUIRES a carry license to purchase a firearm.
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In CT a permit to carry is a permit to possess (handguns). IANAL.

oxide said:
I also refuse to set foot on NYC ground without full combat gear and an entire company of Marines with me.
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NYC stopped being dangerous before you were born.
Seriously. It's one of the safest big cities in the country - it has to be, most residents don't even know how to drive, let alone drive-by.
 
oXide said:
Well, it looks like if I ask my dad's cousin to buy the gun for me then buy it from him I can legally open carry in Virginia on campus at 18, and at 21 I can get my CCW.
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Two things: I wouldn't do the above, I believe it's described as a "straw man" purchase and is rather unlawful.

Second, In unfortunate practicality, NO college is going to allow anyone that isn't law enforcement (military included) to carry on campus, concealed or otherwise. However, If you go to a college where there's a big hunting tradition (like I did) they will usually allow you to keep a rifle unloaded and locked away with ammo separate in your trunk. --That's as good as it's going to get in the real world.

Knife rules, OTOH, are usually forgotten about... just keep it low key!

...and an echo that you should pick your college for your academic needs, or simply bypass it and join the military if this issue is that important.
 
ThePointyEnd said:
Two things: I wouldn't do the above, I believe it's described as a "straw man" purchase and is rather unlawful.

Second, In unfortunate practicality, NO college is going to allow anyone that isn't law enforcement (military included) to carry on campus, concealed or otherwise. However, If you go to a college where there's a big hunting tradition (like I did) they will usually allow you to keep a rifle unloaded and locked away with ammo separate in your trunk. --That's as good as it's going to get in the real world.

Knife rules, OTOH, are usually forgotten about... just keep it low key!

...and an echo that you should pick your college for your academic needs, or simply bypass it and join the military if this issue is that important.
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Pointy beat me to it.
buying a firearm with the intent to resell it, even to a family member is a federal felony.
OTOH, while carrying weapons on campus is generally against state law and school rules, you need to check state law where you will be going to school to see how they define weapon.
for example, in Kansas, folding knives with blades under 4" are not considered weapons (unfortunately all fixed blades are) -- but the individual school can further regulate/reduce the blade length if they choose.
 
oXide said:
Virginia only requires a permit for concealed carry, everything else is perfectly legal, no permits.

Florida requires CCW to purchase a handgun.

The most gun-friendly NROTC school I found in Virginia is Radford, and they require you to store your gun with the University police, no ammo allowed, no carry allowed... So it's back to Paris Island or my right to bear arms. On the other hand I didn't see anything about knives.

They don't seem to see knives as an issue, so I'll take state law into consideration at Radford. Utah still looks better for laws on guns at college. And I might possibly be able to move back east of the Mississippi before they ship me out for basic.
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Oxide,

You do NOT need a CCW to purchase a handgun in Florida.... just to conceal carry one. You do have to be 21 though.

There is a 3 day wait on all firearms, unless you have a CCW. With that, its cash and carry.

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Ok, so I was incorrect in my statement about purchasing, guess I'll have to reread those laws again.

Utah has state laws that prevent any school restricting people (I believe students included) to conceal carry on campus, so long as the carrier legally owns the "weapon" and is permitted. (I will triple check that, but that's what I read.)

The reason for going through ROTC as opposed to just enlisting is my fat ass needs the prep.

The reason for going to college is so I might learn something (socially, I could care less about taking another math class), and so that I have some sort of structured schedule, in addition to whatever job I hold while I'm there.

The ultimate reason for me looking at carry rules/laws at different colleges/states is I like my 2a rights, and I would rather be carrying and not need it, than need it and not carrying. OTOH, I don't picture myself getting into a gun fight in the middle of a class room. As far as theft, as much of a concern as that is, the fact that I have a gun already known of should be a deterrent in and of itself. Yes I know they happen, but if I were to wear my gun as much as I wear my knife now, stealing it would require someone shoving their hand in my pants while I'm asleep, or taking it in the 5 minutes I'm in the shower.


And as far as NYC, it's not how dangerous it is, it's how ridiculous it is. I like my double gulps thank you very much. What I do not like is how controlling they are.
 
Speaking of guns, just made my first attempt at a leather holster. Still a bit more finishing work, but you can get the idea.

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