Limited Edition/Production Knives Released Today - 8/28/2019

Makael said:
Genuine Macassar Ebony stored at Buck Historians place, ( Joe Houser ) since the 80s.

https://www.wood-database.com/macassar-ebony/


Color/Appearance: Heartwood has dramatic striped appearance, somewhat similar to Zebrawood. Yellow to reddish brown body with darker brown or black stripes. Sharply demarcated sapwood is pale gold color.

Grain/Texture: Grain is usually straight, but can sometimes be interlocked; fine uniform texture and good natural luster.

Endgrain: Diffuse-porous; medium to large pores in no specific arrangement; solitary, with radial multiples of 2-4 common; mineral deposits present; growth rings indistinct; rays not visible without lens; parenchyma reticulate, vasicentric.

Rot Resistance: Heartwood is rated as very durable; poor insect/borer resistance.

Workability: Tends to be rather difficult to work, due to its high density, blunting effect on cutters, and its occasionally interlocked grain. The wood is also prone to checking and splitting during drying, and drying defects are not uncommon. The wood is excellent for turned objects.

Odor: Macassar Ebony has a mild, slightly unpleasant odor when being worked.

Allergies/Toxicity: Although severe reactions are quite uncommon, Ebony in the Diospyros genus has been reported as a sensitizer, and Macassar Ebony has been specifically reported to cause skin irritation. See the articles Wood Allergies and Toxicity and Wood Dust Safety for more information.

Pricing/Availability: Likely to be extremely expensive, along with most other Ebony members in the Diospyros genus. The tree grows slowly, has a very limited natural habitat, and is highly desired for the wood’s aesthetic appeal and toughness.

Sustainability: This wood species is not listed in the CITES Appendices, but is on the IUCN Red List. It is listed as vulnerable due to a population reduction of over 20% in the past three generations, caused by a decline in its natural range, and exploitation.

Common Uses: Veneer, high-end cabinetry, billiard cues, musical instruments, and other small specialty items.

Comments: So named for the Indonesian port-city of Makassar, which is one of the primary points of exportation
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You're talking about the new Macassar Ebony slabs that are available.

That's not what we've been talking about.

Read the preceding posts for elucidation.
 
Lesknife said:
There’s more to it than speculation. It’s best to follow the many years of official Buck press release and company literature. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s correct. I’ve researched it myself and it’s not as simple as just one or two bits of information because over the years different suppliers had different methods, sources and reasons for the particular method or source they used. Things have changed over the years. The spelling is my auto correct so it’s still dymondwood or diamond wood but they are both resin laminates.
At one time the wood used was boiled to remove oils and clean Pryor to stabilizing with resins. This had an effect on the color and appearance, since then there have been improvements to achieve better appearance and color while maintaining quality so that it is accurate in appearance.
Even some Buck distributors were confused and put out the wrong information on laminates so you can find false information as well but if you follow Bucks official press information it will be correct. You might have to dig.
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I have dug.

My conclusion is that despite Buck's marketing strategy of calling a material "Macassar Ebony DymondWood," there is no such thing in reality.

What it means is DymondWood colored, stained and textured to look like Macassar Ebony.

That's important only if someone thinks they're getting Ebony instead of Dymondwood.

That confusion would be regrettable and it might be better to forgo the term "Macassar Ebony DymondWood."

Maybe add "colored" and call it Macassar Ebony Colored DymondWood.

Just to avoid confusion.
 
I do love the Buck real Ebony 110s Houser was saving the scales for all these years, btw.

Also love the real Ebony scales now available again on regular production 110s.

Happy days.

:)
 
Makael said:
Yes it is.... refer to post 42.
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Which makes the reference to the mythical substance that is the topic being discussed......

"the bottom knife is a 2017 Macassar Ebony Dymondwood."

That's what we've been talking about........apparently you have started on your own tangential discussion.

:)
 
Der Verminator said:
Which makes the reference to the mythical substance that is the topic being discussed......

"the bottom knife is a 2017 Macassar Ebony Dymondwood."

That's what we've been talking about........apparently you have started on your own tangential discussion.

:)
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Actually I'm sticking to the title of the thread, it appears you have went off on a separate tanget.discussion that has zero to do with this thread,
 
Once they mention Dymondwood, which is typically followed by some sort of trademark symbol, the burdon is on the customer to go find out what it is IMO. Only if it is not stated and sometimes it is forgotten that would be misleading.

I had no doubt this one was real Ebony and now one is on it's way. Thanks a lot... lol
 
BuckShack said:
Once they mention Dymondwood, which is typically followed by some sort of trademark symbol, the burdon is on the customer to go find out what it is IMO. Only if it is not stated and sometimes it is forgotten that would be misleading.

I had no doubt this one was real Ebony and now one is on it's way. Thanks a lot... lol
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So........you favor "Let the buyer beware?"

:D
 
I don't think you can say "Macassar Ebony DymondWood" without creating some confusion as to what the material really is.......but that's just me........maybe I'm easily confused.

:)
 
Der Verminator said:
So........you favor "Let the buyer beware?"

:D
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There is typically not enough room in advertising to go on and on about how Dymondwood is made. And what do they need to Beware of? The stuff is stronger than the real thing. Nothing to fear with Dymondwood. It will no doubt outlast you and I. Buck went all in on Dymondwood and it was a good call at the time. Introducing real wood again now is also a good call.
 
I think this hole dymondwood thing was tackled in another thread. Something about they said walnut but really it was birch dyed a walnut color or whatever but it really doesn't matter that much to this thread.

ANYWAY so said buck historian that held onto it was Joe? That's actually kinda cool. Atleast you know it was taken care of. This batch of LEs was very nice.
 
As long as they label it as such........but they don't.

What I said before was that what Buck advertises as "Macassar Ebony Dymondwood" should instead be called "Macassar Ebony Colored DymondWood."

Well, maybe Buck shouldn't call it "Macassar Ebony Colored DymondWood." Now that I think about it.......that could also be confusing.

After all......what color IS the REAL Macassar Ebony anyway?

We have the old black stuff and the new blonde stuff.......which color Ebony are we talking about? So that sounds equally confusing.

How about just calling everything that isn't REAL Ebony........"Faux Macassar Ebony DymondWood Laminate?"

That should finally eliminate any confusion.
 
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