limited edition?

[rando12]

Other than making a small number of a particular model of a knife what constitutes a limited edition. For example in the case of a NMFBM what is the difference between regular production and a limited edition knife?

 

[13ninjas]

Limited Editions (LE's) usually have satin blades instead of coated.....they are numbered.....and often have a different blade thickness and grind than the regular combat grade (coated) models.

 

[Flatsman007]

Limited Editions (LE's) usually have satin blades instead of coated.....they are numbered.....and often have a different blade thickness and grind than the regular combat grade (coated) models.

^^^---What he said.

 

[uyotg]

as much as I hate it, LEs and satin finishes are pretty much synonymous now. Not that I hate satin, but the term "limited edition" doesn't remotely imply anything about the finish. so while 13ninjas is correct, they're just observations of trends so far and it could change any time. I think the only other thing you can really assume of a LE model--or rather the term--is that it is limited and numbered.

 

[w.t. anderson]

and (obviously) they cost more. . .

 

[JGarrison Knives]

Other than making a small number of a particular model of a knife what constitutes a limited edition. For example in the case of a NMFBM what is the difference between regular production and a limited edition knife?

I think also saying "small number", meaning quantities made, does not describe LEs anymore.

 

[resinguy]

LE generally means a combination of blade feaures, finish, and handle materials that would not be replicated in regular production. It may or may not be limited in numbers. The SFNO LE was an edition of 300, whereas most others are only limiterd by how long Busse keeps the order book open. BCS models typically are made in limited ( but unknown ) quantity.

 

[richstag]

as much as I hate it, LEs and satin finishes are pretty much synonymous now. Not that I hate satin, but the term "limited edition" doesn't remotely imply anything about the finish. so while 13ninjas is correct, they're just observations of trends so far and it could change any time. I think the only other thing you can really assume of a LE model--or rather the term--is that it is limited and numbered.

Wrong.

 

[uyotg]

Wrong.

Which part is wrong?... and does it have to do something with the picture?

 

[richstag]

The talk like LE's are nothing more then a satin finish and a number is wrong.

Differences usually include handle material, blade thickness, grind types, edge profile...

Of course the picture has to do with it.

 

[uyotg]

The talk like LE's are nothing more then a satin finish and a number is wrong.

Differences usually include handle material, blade thickness, grind types, edge profile...

Of course the picture has to do with it.

No, that was my point that's why I'm confused with your inclusion of the picture. All the term "limited edition" really means is that it's a limited production, in general, though maybe not in Busse terms. It doesn't mean anything else specifically, so Jerry can vary whatever he wants to vary between the CG and the LE version of a model. Some CGs and LEs have the same grind; some the same thickness; some the same edges. Others don't. I don't think he's strictly defined the differences between LEs and CGs. Who knows, there might even one day be a satin CG model and a coated LE model.

 

[mamun1024]

LE generally means a combination of blade feaures, finish, and handle materials that would not be replicated in regular production. It may or may not be limited in numbers. The SFNO LE was an edition of 300, whereas most others are only limiterd by how long Busse keeps the order book open. BCS models typically are made in limited ( but unknown ) quantity.

^^^^ I think this sums it up pretty well.

 

[richstag]

If your point is that there are no set in stone guidelines that the Limited Editions are held to then I will agree with that.

If not, then you have to take the conversation to a specific model one at a time. This is not a new conversation and there are very functional differences more often than not.

 

[uyotg]

If your point is that there are no set in stone guidelines that the Limited Editions are held to then I will agree with that.

Definitely, but the one thing you can almost guarantee with an LE version is that it's more expensive, inferred from his BF-exclusive releases, for example:

Busse Combat Basic 10 LE Specs, Special Pricing and Other Info.
We took the projected Combat Grade price of $287.00 plus the projected Limited Edition price of $387.00, and split the difference for a Busse Combat Forum Special price of only $337.00!!!!!

If not, then you have to take the conversation to a specific model one at a time. This is not a new conversation and there are very functional differences more often than not.

Which is one of my other gripes with the LE label... usually when you hear LE, you think the same functionality, just branded specially or better somehow. But in many cases, the CG and LE versions of a model are very different. Not better, just different. So it's just kind of a shame that any unique, specific advantages or uses of a limited edition are, well, limited in number

 

[giant1]

Personally as a collector of LE's i decided to only stick with numbered, satin blade and tiger hide scaled knives.

I agree there is no real set of guidelines for LE's that are set in stone as there have been other combinations released and called Limited Edition.

 

[Ankerson]

Other than making a small number of a particular model of a knife what constitutes a limited edition. For example in the case of a NMFBM what is the difference between regular production and a limited edition knife?

 

[AZTimT]

No, that was my point that's why I'm confused with your inclusion of the picture. All the term "limited edition" really means is that it's a limited production, in general, though maybe not in Busse terms. It doesn't mean anything else specifically, so Jerry can vary whatever he wants to vary between the CG and the LE version of a model. Some CGs and LEs have the same grind; some the same thickness; some the same edges. Others don't. I don't think he's strictly defined the differences between LEs and CGs. Who knows, there might even one day be a satin CG model and a coated LE model.

I think what frustrates type A personalities most is that what defines Busse is not being able to be put in one box or category of rules as he can produce his blades any way he pleases. LE simply means there are some unique features that set it aside from the cheaper CG offering and fewer of them are offered. Busse Combat's knife production methods follows the same kind of flexibility required by anyone who ever faces combat... you never really know what to expect after this second and rules don't apply the way one might hope.

On the last sentence, too late, it has already happened.
There were several coated LE blades in the past, usually the military over run types, like the EU17, and many different "1 of .." offerings, like the Pregnant Dodo most recently.
Then here is my CG Tank Buster as ordered in satin from the list of factory options.

 

[uyotg]

Well there you go! You've broken the link between LE always meaning satin I never used to consider the "1 of #" knives as limited editions, but technically you're correct. Perhaps it's the difference between limited editions and Limited Editions. I have a "1 of 5" CABS, but it isn't marked with a specific serial number (all five of them were marked "1 of 5"), and it wasn't as expensive as a CABSLE.
And, for the record, I'm a type B in all aspects of my life except wanting to organize information (I do it for a living). And, yes, this is why the way Busse Combat works sometimes kills me!

 

[AZTimT]

Well there you go! You've broken the link between LE always meaning satin I never used to consider the "1 of #" knives as limited editions, but technically you're correct. Perhaps it's the difference between limited editions and Limited Editions. I have a "1 of 5" CABS, but it isn't marked with a specific serial number (all five of them were marked "1 of 5"), and it wasn't as expensive as a CABSLE.
And, for the record, I'm a type B in all aspects of my life except wanting to organize information (I do it for a living). And, yes, this is why the way Busse Combat works sometimes kills me!

Yeah, it bothered me a bit at first too, but then I realized it wasn't going to change and decided to just go with it. It's a process... and now it is fun to watch others go through it. Some survive and adapt while others get frustrated and give up. Funny how something we collect for a hobby can get to us in ways we never imagined. LE or not, I just look at them all now as how bad do I want it and am I going to use it or just buy it as an investment. Users often come home and get used, investments generally don't. For example, I love the AA, but I just don't see myself doing anything with it and I have plans for that money for later this year. Plus, I've taken several dings on "investments" over the past year to warrant not taking any extra chances right now.

 

[adam sneh]

Limited Editions (LE's) usually have satin blades instead of coated.....they are numbered.....and often have a different blade thickness and grind than the regular combat grade (coated) models.

What is the max blade thickness that the NMFBM "CG" comes with a 11.5 inch blade length ?
Is 0.264 inch automaticly reffer to the "LE" version?
And if not, so what actually is the different between the "LE" & the "CG" in NMFBM ?
If the "CG" & the "LE" are made from the same INFI Steel, and some "CG" comes with Satin Mirror finish, so what is the different?
Is it only the No. that stamped on the blade?


Thanks