List of Old Timer Folders

lrv said:
This is as close as they got to a congress.
These without the 2000 lettering are rare.
44OT Workman
044OT.jpg

TTYL
Larry
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I should have bought a few of these when they were going cheap about 2 years back, but I didn't. Story of my knife buying career, shouda, woulda, coulda.
 
Hey, wait a minute.....

Can we count the Schrade/Kious?? A 2 blade "Reverse Congress" may be as close as we get.

Picture from A.G. Russell.

Bill
 
Schrade has had congress patterns in the past just not in the UH and OT's
I'll bet Glenn has a couple he can show us. I know LT has a couple.
TTYL
Larry
 
Yeah, Larry. I think if I'm lucky I have 2 that I can rub together (like pennies).

I've already posted on one in the old school schrade thread (hmmm...where is that thread... :eek: holy cow off the page.) I owe you guys some models number on a bunch of those pics. I'll get to work this weekend.

Glenn
 
Irv and everybody, Thanks for all the info and pics. Here's a scan of the official Prince Albert offer.

Luis, IMO the OTX are more like Old Timers than the Beast type.
Does anyone else like the OTX models and / or know which ones were made?

Dave

P.S. Did anyone else see that 44OT go for almost $90 on ebay? And one the other day for almost $80?
 
And thank you, Dave. I had never seen one of the offer papers like you just posted a pic of. I've copied it to my Schrade files. Just goes to show how important it is for a forum to grow and flourish that we have a constant stream of new members asking questions. It's questions like yours that has made our place here on the web THE place to go for Schrade information.

Phil
 
The Old Timer Safe-T-Grip series were ocassionally found in colors other than green. The 147 Pro Fisherman Fillet will be seen with black handles, and I think I saw one in blue. The 141OT Outfitter came with blue, black, and orange, and I have seen one in deep burgandy that might have been a prototype knife. Like the 5OT and the 5OTG, they were usually designated with a suffix letter for the color code. Black was ***OTB, Blue was ***OTBL, etc. Orange was ***OTO, and a series of four patterns of delrin fixed knives were made also in orange before the Safe-T-Grips, the 15OTO, 152OTO, 154OTO, 165OTO, and if I am not mistaken, I seem to remember a 158OTO. Sometimes these were given a different name on the shield, sometimes just called Limited Edition. I have none of them yet, so I cannot tell you if they received special tangstamps. I have a green delrin handled 154OTG which was a Copenhagen Tobacco issue with brass oval rope bordered "SCHRADE" shield, and "Skoal USA" tangstamp, "Limited Editon" blade etch. A blue delrin handled 165OT recently sold from the Sample room, so if it had ever hit production (to my knowledge, it did not) it would have been a 165OTBL. Black delrin handles were seen on several fixed blade old timer issues, but these were almost always a private issue or limited edition (Craftsman, Ducks Unlimited, etc.), so perhaps they were not considered a part of the production Old Timer fixed blade series either. The custom shop turned out various wood handled OT fixed blades, usually with Schrade+ U.S.A. LTD. tangstamps. I have seen what appears to be walnut, cocobolo, maple, and I have one with laminated wood handles.

Codger
 
I have written to RJ Reynolds asking info on what years the promotion for the Uslter knives was run. Hopefully we will get an answer.

Thanks for the coupon scan. I do not have one.

I have posted a pict of the can and knives in a past thread.

TTYL
Larry
 
That 58OT is a "must have" and nice centerpiece for any OT folder Collection. It is a "first of" stockman. It's history of being the test bed that led to so many varients, both folder and fixed, makes it unique and interesting. It is not a far stretch to say that it is also the grandfather of the Uncle Henry knives as well. Some day I hope to add the other two Ulster Old Timers and the can with wrapper to the collection in their own mini-display. I think there were either two or three different can designs, can't remember. Differences were in the printing on the front. A full varient display would then contain those three, and one can with the offer on the back showing, and of course, the three knives. An original knife shipping box would be the cat's meow!

Codger
 
I updated the list one more time with all the info so far. I think that's about as good as it's going to get, unless someone comes up with an Ulster 12OT Barlow. But please let me know if you see any errors, no matter how small -- I like to be accurate.

Dave
 
Opinions here seem to vary, so I am not sure whether or not you want to include it on your list, but I have a 512OT. It is basically a Sharpfinger with a stainless blade made before they started passing them off to unwary buyers with the 152OT tangstamp. Circa 1989-'91, the tangstamp reads "SCHRADE+" over "U.S.A. 512OT". I consider it to be a fixed OT made by Schrade well before the closing, but as I said, opinions on this vary from "freak" to "accident" to "imposter". I have a specially printed box matching the knife dated 1991.

Codger (FIXED in his ways!)
 
There are many others that are not included in the list. These may be the special orders for companies like Master Mechanic or Sears. I have a 19OT with the box and papers done the same year as the 26OT and the 512OT none of which ever got put in a catalog.. Something was happening in 91.
(These OT's are all stamped stainless)
TTYL
Larry
 
Was that before or after the arrival of the marvelous professional outside consultants? Might be some sort of clue in there.
 
Larry, Codger......

You guys ARE good at this stuff.

I do enjoy all the information you guys provide. Thanks... :thumbup:

Bill
 
Master Mechanic and Sears did order theirs in stainless, I believe, but Master Mechanic used a tangstamp MM152, and Sears, of course, usually used the CRAFTSMAN USA stamp ( I have both 165OT and 15OT patterns of those). They could have been overrun stock they were trying to market though. If my manufacturing process theory is correct, the coarse heat treated blanks are tangstamped just before the primary grind, and they would stock them in that raw heat treated form for future orders. Then they could use the same blanks for a multitude of issues. That would fit.

Lobo, digging the minutia is most of the fun. I just wish we had a factory insider to quiz with all our questions. As it is, we are left with a lot of gaps. Like putting together a jigsaw puzzle with pieces missing. Better yet, three of them mixed with pieces of each missing. Heck, you can do just as much research as we do. Pick a card...I mean pattern, any pattern! A lot of clues are found in the leftovers and samples/prototypes, and limited and private editions. Making sense of them is the trick.

Codger
 
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