Little thought of super steel SHTF reality

Hanne762 said:
When all is said and done in that situation if it can prepare human meat for consumption you're probably covered.
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We call it Artisanal human meat.

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I'd go with an LC200N or MagnaCut utility knife and an LC200N machete.
 
sheep herder said:
People seem to be confusing reality and fantasy.
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I assure you, my friend, none of us are confused. This is the usual way these kinds of threads go, and we are all chuckling behind our screens.

In between all of the jokes about tree health and thinly veiled references to cannibalism, there is a discussion about realistic "prepper" scenarios. It's a discussion we've been having for at least a decade, and probably longer.

One of the subtexts of this site, and others, is the idea of preparedness, whether it's being prepared to cut a good steak in a restaurant, or to ruck it for three days with your family after the infrastructure stops working, completely. Or, anything in between.

Whether you're really trying to prepare for a plausible end of civilization or just feeding your knife fantasy, there's no reason not make a purchase, as long as the rest of your bills are paid for.

Honestly, I don't think many of us can really wrap our heads around the reality of being without running water, electricity, gasoline, internet, and a social structure that keeps people from turning into a horde of wild animals. And if you've lived through that, you have my respect.
 
Yup!
Now please pass the Sophia Vergara: I'm still hungry!
 

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I have a CBN stone that is solid matrix, meaning that it has CBN dispersed through the entire stone instead of just a surface coating. It should behave much like a ceramic or arkansas stone in terms of long term wear.

I have worn the diamond coating off more than one DMT, hence my search for something better.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
If you're genuinely worried about that kind of scenario your time and money are far better spent learning permaculture, how to grow food, filter water, make and repair clothing and finding communities of like minded people with skills you don't have than worrying about your knife collection.

If, on the other hand, this is just a new angle that you'd like to approach the hobby from, go for it.
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Already done .. want a good knife abs a stone that will last .. after axes and chisels and knives when your sharpening stone finally caves out or gets down to nothing then you’re screwed
 
...Not if you have 1,000,000 rounds of ammo, and about 100 firearms stashed away...
 
Alright so the comments have ventured into the theoretical.. let’s just say something like this will come to pass we’ve already seen a small pandemic .. wait till one comes that wipes out 25% of us … let’s say you have land you want to go live on and let’s say with the storages we see know from this small one.. stones, knives , everything else is gone living off the land what stones will last the longest .. what steels you you all think would have the trade off of food edge stability, retention and not crazy hard to sharpen on natural stones ceramic , hard Arkansas etc ..

I guess my question is I’ve never use any of these stones to sharpen so I don’t know the point in super steels where it turns into hours to touch up a dulled blade on a m4, Rex -45 etc vs 15-20 mins on a 154 cmp, d2 etc ..

So building a doomsday knife collection with ceramic and hard Arkansas stones that are very unlikely to ever dish or wear out too much what steels hit the sweet spot for those because prob don’t have time to be sharpening for hours
 
Steely_Gunz said:
I'm going to say that 99% of people who can currently afford a super steel requiring a super hard sharpening stone probably wont survive the opening volley of whatever causes said hypothetical collapse. [...]
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Oh crap, I own both super and "ordinary" steel! Will I live or die?
 
Bob Denman said:
...Not if you have 1,000,000 rounds of ammo, and about 100 firearms stashed away...
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sodak said:
Oh crap, I own both super and "ordinary" steel! Will I live or die?
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Lets forget the shtf scenario and just say I’m moving to the middle of Alaska and i’m going to be completely self-reliant with few supplies and an ability to restock now based on that premises any suggestions on Steels.: I WILL be using ceramic and natural stones as they do not wear out maybe I am planning to become a hermit and never get supplies? Maybe I not but humor me. So advice ? People who have these steels that they can touch up easily on ceramic.. seems we’ve gotten side tracked into the reality of this and away from the knife knowledge
 
End of the World….who needs that? I am prepping for when the “great“ State of California calls us all in to kill every living thing in the forest, so they can pave over the thing to permanently put an end to forest fires.

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Why am I not surprised to see somebody mention this about the "left coast"?
 
drebs said:
I don’t think many people think about maintaining a knife that’s beholden to diamond stones or cbn…Odd question but in a shtf scenario .. think post apocalypse or semi.. diamond plates wear out, silicone carbide wears out, water stones. It seems ceramic such as Spyderco’s bench ceramic stones will never wear out, dish, like other types will (maybe a hard Arkansas stone?) It seems in this scenario it would be more prudent to consider matching a knife to a immortal stone instead of a “immortal” steel that’s near impossible to sharpen with natural rocks or stones with extremely high longevity ..

so my question is two fold would I be right in assuming ceramic stones are almost indestructible? If not which would would be better? Or comparable ?

furthermore, sharpening a rex-45 or k390 on ceramic’s would probably be miserable. What’s the highest quality steel do you think could be relatively easy to sharpen on ceramic? Qualities would be edge stability abs edge retention as first priority. Stainless and toughens as second.

Off the top of my head Lc200n seems to be one of the only knives I can think of right now that would be a great match at quality of longevity of edge retention while hitting all other 3 qualities any others? Even if they fall short in a catagory .. I’d rather start re gearing my collection in this direction.
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you will die of dysentery long before you wear out your knife sharpener.
 
drebs said:
Lets forget the shtf scenario and just say I’m moving to the middle of Alaska and i’m going to be completely self-reliant with few supplies and an ability to restock now based on that premises any suggestions on Steels.: I WILL be using ceramic and natural stones as they do not wear out maybe I am planning to become a hermit and never get supplies? Maybe I not but humor me. So advice ? People who have these steels that they can touch up easily on ceramic.. seems we’ve gotten side tracked into the reality of this and away from the knife knowledge
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Pukko and Leukku, and apologies to all of our Scandanavian members for thrashing the spelling!

Why those? Because they are knives that evolved in Artic climates. They ought to do well.
 
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This is the other problem of proposing a generic TEOTWAWKI: too many variables.
 
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