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Your welcome. I am a former NYC LEO and in my day no one would ever arrest a guy for simple knife possession. Today, however, it is considered a good arrest.
It's all about money and putting as many people into the system as they can shove. A lot of people would scream, "Conspiracy theory!" at that, but, you know, the proof of it is there and it's nothing more than simple greed. They keep passing more and more laws that have more and more fines and other penalties and then when someone says, "It's about the money," people defend the construction of tyranny by saying, "Nah-ah." or by breaking out the old chestnut, "You need a tinfoil hat."
In your day, cops had better things to do, like trying to stop crime instead of trying to make new criminals out of thin air.
In the Transit system, the officers look for the pocket clips and belt pouches, and take you aside to issue a summons for the knife as per the Admin Code. Once they can flcik it open, of it is a weapon by design ( blade type), or you make a statement that you carry it as a weapon ( including self defense), then you will be arrested for CPW4.
Yep, I have said that for years on these forums, in certain parts of the country, self-defense is, in fact, against the law. They have a system in place and not just in NYC, where you have to lie to law enforcement officers if you want to stay out of handcuffs.
"Why are you carrying that pocketknife?"
"I open boxes with it and, I got mugged last year over on 23rd."
"Oh yeah? So, you think you could defend yourself with that pocketknife, right?"
"Yes sir, only if I had to."
"You're under arrest, you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney.."
In the urban centers of this country, the concept of "Officer Friendly" is just stupid.
I plan on moving out of NY and maybe to New Hampsire where there is a new law being pushed to make all knives legal, and their gun laws are already great...I hear the fresh water fishing is good too!
Good luck to you, I hope you have an incredibly long and wonderful retirement.
Like I said I am a strong second amendment type of guy, but there are many who are not, and all the NYPD officers in the last ten years grew up going through metal detectors at school and hearing all weapons were evil, so you get the idea.....
Yep.