Long lasting folder

thedawg said:
Please, refrain from giving people false advice.
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You've been warned enough times.
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Hit the road, jack
 
Wow... it's a good thing I don't have money or else I'd be tempted to buy every one of these. The helpfulness of this forum never ceases to amaze me...
Thanks everybody
Except for TheDawg
 
internet person said:
Wow... it's a good thing I don't have money or else I'd be tempted to buy every one of these. The helpfulness of this forum never ceases to amaze me...
Thanks everybody
Except for TheDawg
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You created quite a ruckus in the "How Objective..." thread internet person!

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501708

Mostly because of thedawg.

I hope the good folks in this thread helped you out and its nice to have you around!

John
 
IP, I once thought I could spend a lot of money and get an indestructible knife. I was a young teenager then and it wasn't too long before I learned that I was wrong. You may sneer as my suggestion, but why not get yourself a Douk-Douk or a Mercator and try to wear it out. No, they're not pretty, and, no, they're not expensive. They probably won't impress very many people, either. You might even wear one of them out if you used it real hard for several years. But if you like it you could buy a footlocker full of them for what you're talking about spending on "one good knife." I doubt I'm thinking like you are, though. Good luck in your quest.
 
thedawg said:
Please, refrain from giving people false advice.

the spyderco military is not a hard working knife and will not last 20 years unless you use it as a butter knife.

It is a linier lock. A liner lock will not last more than 5 years or so of hard use......
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You're a funny guy, those jokes you tell. I had an endura that saw nearly every day use from the time I was 12 until two years ago when an idiot ex-friend of mine decided to use it as a screwdriver and broke the tip off. The lock, on the other hand, was still as strong as the day my uncle bought it for me.
 
knarfang and Dale Fuller have the right idea. What is your definition of a workhorse and what problems have you encountered before with folders?

If you're using the knife for serious hard cutting on a daily basis, you might be better served with a fixed blade.

I would expect any high quality folder or liner lock with a decently designed pivot would give years of service. The locking mechanism shouldn't be an issue as most cutting action doesn't work the lock at all; all the force is holding the blade open, actually helping the lock.

Years ago I had a Buck 110 that only lasted five years or so before the pivot pin loosened up to the point I stopped carrying it. My next folder was an ancient Gerber "Bolt-Action" that I used for perhaps 15 years (not EDC however) before a "friend" torqued the point and broke it off.

Something with metal liners and a decent pivot and lock mechanism should do. Of course, my large Sebenza is the perfect knife (in my opinion) but it was my choice to spend three times what I really needed to get what I consider the best.
 
iamsmiling,

The Sebenza is a solid knife. I really appreciate the simplicity and robustness of the Sebenza. I'm also finding the RSK to be a fine knife and as I posted in another thread this afternoon, it is currently my EDC. The Sebenza is resting...not that it needs much rest.

I'm also agree with some of the comments here that the deciding factor shouldn't be the locking mechanism. I personally find liner locks and especially frame locks to be dependable...at least if the knife is used for cutting.

Among the knives that I feel will last 20 years are:

CRK Sebenza

RSK (or other grip) assuming the omega springs go for 20 years and they probably will since they don't bear much load...they simply push a small steel bar into a slot and they never work to their extreme range of motion

Al Mar SERE

Spyderco Manix or Mini-Manix

Spyderco D'Allara

Spyderco ParaMilitary

Small pocketable fixed blades like Charles May's Fireant, John and Josh Graham's stubby Razel and stubby Spear Point (one of my favorites)

Best of luck in your search.

:)
 
I have a $20 SAK Huntsman that's been used hard and is going strong after more than twenty years.
 
Well, price alone is not going to do it. If used in a certain way, no folder will last 20 years. As a rule of thumb I would say, that a Ti frame lock will not last as long as a simple lock back. Just ask STR (he has a little forum in the bladesmith section) how many Ti framelocks he has repaired or re-done over the years. But of course with some care I am sure, a Ti framelock can last 20 years, a simple lockback can most definitely. There are of course other locks that can, with some care, easily last as long (most notably the axis lock).

Sure, serrations might go over time but that is not unique to one brand. Even a plain edge blade will change shape due to frequent sharpening over the years.

Every once in a while, a guy will pop up on the forums, usually not a knifenut but someone who uses a knife in his job daily, and tries to find after 20 years a replacement for his beloved pocket knife that has finally given out. These knives tend to be more often than not Spyderco Enduras and Delicas, so there is really no question that they can fulfill your requirements. A guy comes to mind, who used an Endura for 15 years cutting plastic strips on an engine assembly line (I don't recall the entire story, but I believe, he was responsible for the installation of the radiator on an assembly line, and the hoses were tied together with plastic strips and he had to make sure that they were removed after assembly. They were hard to get off so he used his Endura routinely to cut them.)

Now, finally, my personal recommendation would be the Spyderco Pacific Salt which for me is the epitome of the hard working knife and mine has already endured more than most of my other (far more expensive knives). However, I will admit, that the price does play some role. I am not one to buy junk that needs replacing after a year, but if I had my doubts that a Spyderco Salt will last 20 years, I have no doubts that two Salts will last that long. And you can buy two for a whole lot less than your max price.
 
I used a Buck 301 stockman for just under 25 years, 10 of which were active duty army engineers. It cut everything I had too, so it must have been a real knife.;)
 
The price is much less than you stated but the Spyderco Endura4, Buck 110 tn S30V from Cabela's, Buck 110 in 154CM from Bass Pro, Spyderco Wayne Goddard, Spyderco Native in S30V from Wal-Mart, Benchmade Griptilian and Mini-Griptilian.Any of these would make a fine EDC knife.
 
My uncle was a lineman and used a Buck 110 for 30 years. He gave me the Buck and it has been well used, sharpened a lot (and not too carefully) and generally beat up. It still locks up tight and functions well. My preferrence is the large micarta Sebenza. I expect it to last for a very long time. Point is that you don't have to spend $300+ to get a good long lasting knife.
 
thedawg said:
Please, refrain from giving people false advice.

the spyderco military is not a hard working knife and will not last 20 years unless you use it as a butter knife.

It is a linier lock. A liner lock will not last more than 5 years or so of hard use......


To the original poster.

with your price range 300 to 400 hundred, get a sebenza or a benchmade 710 for allot less money. Now those will last you along time. Dont listen to the spyderco crowed. They will tell you a goat will fly if it has spyderco on it.
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Is it possible for you to give a recomendation without bashing spyderco. I have more than few spyderco knives all are great working knives. The best part is that even if I do break one I am only out 60 or 70 dollars. Honestly given the right conditions all knives are susceptable to breaking and wear. The only knife that will never break is the one that is never used.
 
yep, good suggestion! :thumbup:

edit to add: i also love the Buck 112's. Probably my favorite knife, and inexpensive also.

rackness said:
Buck 110 from the Buck custom shop. you can get them with different steels , bolsters and scales. I have a standard 110 that is well over 20 yrs old. my father gave it to me on my 9th birthday. he had used it for years before he gave it to me it was my first locking knife.:thumbup:
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IMHO the Kershaw Strom and Storm II are both nearly indestructible. Both have the super strong frame locks and both of mine have passed all the "stupid spine whack" tests with flying colors. Im still not sure what these tests prove, but anyway my cousin has a large Sebenza and even he admires the "anvil" like construction of the Storms.,,,VWB.
 
I would agree with other's suggestions of a Buck 110, as it is a proven commodity. The best would be a BG-42 Custom 110 from the Buck factory and a close second is a Cabela's Alaskan Guide 110 in S30V steel.

As for Spyderco...pick one. The Manix and Mini-Manix come to mind first, followed by the Military and Para-Military. Both Buck and Spyderco have excellent lifetime warranties, so you are covered.
 
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