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Anybody else LOVE to see Les do a whole season in one survival scenario?? A long term situation to see what he builds to improve his plight. It doesn't have to be somewhere as harsh as the arctic or anything. One of those tropical island type situations where he can actually find nourishment is fine, I'd just like to see what his long term projects would be.

And to go along with the other active thread right now, what primitive weapons would he build. Sure, short term your first one is probably going to be a spear. But if you were going to be there for an extended time, I'd eventually buid a bow. What would y'all do?
 
That would be great. :)

I would for sure probably buy the dvd of an extended solo trip. A little more interesting.
 
I have this idea. How about coming to Dals Ed in Sweden. Here he can live in the regular forest, maybe he will see wolf or bear. The water here is clean, the snakes are not lethal and everyone is nice, even the people in Nössemark, as long as you bring them a dead wolf.

There should not be any extreme survival stunts, just living like people did hundreds of years ago. Give him a goat and a cow and some egg laying animals of sort.
Then the whole extended show should be about how people solwed thing in the old days, not focusing on super extra survival gizmoes. If he is nice he can be visited by different people showing old ways to do things. Why in Sweden you might ask, well because it is so fun here :)
 
What a great idea..it would be good if it were in an area where he could actually hunt for food.
 
Didn't PBS have a show where a family had to live the way the pioneers did? I don't know what it was called.
 
Les already did a show where he lives a paleolithic existence. I believe its available on DVD, but I am not sure. He lives in the wilderness with his family for a year.
 
Les and his wife did a year in the northwoods I don't know if there is any video on that or not.
 
I've been married for 21 years and have two teenagers-- does that count?
 
zman308 said:
Didn't PBS have a show where a family had to live the way the pioneers did? I don't know what it was called.
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I can't remember the name, but I remember the show.
It was very interesting.

After I watched it I felt a little ashamed though. I realized I had been suckered into watching a pseudo reality-tv show.
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DaleW said:
I've been married for 21 years and have two teenagers-- does that count?
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Working on 20 years with two teenagers. Yes. It counts.

Great idea. If they did this what area would you like this to happen in?
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I'd vote for his home wilderness of Canada. He probably knows Canada better than anywhere else and knows of more resources there and how to make the best of 'em.
 
Frontier house or something?

It was a competition between several familes.

The black folks that just built the tiny little cabin and kept only a few goats and spent most of their time gathering food for winter won as I recall.

The other people kept wanting more animals and building too much stuff instead of collecting food for the winter.:thumbdn:
 
hollowdweller said:
Frontier house or something?

It was a competition between several familes.

The black folks that just built the tiny little cabin and kept only a few goats and spent most of their time gathering food for winter won as I recall.

The other people kept wanting more animals and building too much stuff instead of collecting food for the winter.:thumbdn:
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I watched it also.

It is psychologically hard to gather or produce things that
are of no immediate use. Grasshopper vs ants story.
The prospect of winter was not real for them anyway.

Not enough Wood cut. Little Hay was put up for the animals.
If you are going to put up hay, you need at least a scythe, and some
kind of rake. Hay needs to be cut when it is green for max value.
I saw them gather a small amount of tan hay that looked like straw.

In the old days, not all farmers/ranchers put up hay for all animals;
and when a bad winter arrived, some (a lot) of animals died.

Modern Laws and PBS PC bias: Lack of firearms and lack of hunting.

Few animals (one milk cow and some goats) is not enough for 3
families. An ox or 2 to help with work and could be eaten in winter.

The worst problem was and is that they selected normal-modern people
who had a romantic desire for the past; not people who know primitive
farming. It is hard to learn from such people and it is not a good
re-creation.
 
So, to sum it up:
I would enjoy seeing Les do a more long-term survival situation.

Heck, he could even bring a few people with him.
 
Frontier House was great! My wife and I totally got sucked into that show. Yeah it had a reality show feel to it. But the emotions and situations were genuine. Not staged bear-shit.

The cheat'n family definitely had personality. Especially when you found out afterwords that the guy owned a $1,000,000 house in LA and was a power lawyer at the end. They were the ones who lost points for the yellow hay. The guy could negotiate though - he was always scamming the other family out of something and working the politics of the different groups. It was pretty hilarious when he called in the doctor for the show, convinced he was dying of malnutrition. The doc says to him - you probably just never knew what it was like to be in shape! The 2nd family were nice - and then ended up in divorce after the show - their relationship couldn't bear the stress. The young newlyweds hunkered down, choppped wood and gathered food. The wife complained alot about being stuck with woman's chores - but that husband of her's was a no-nonsense, do what it takes, survivor. Everyone of BF should have appreciated the hawk throwing contest at the harvest fair!

A long term Les - hmm - not sure if it would be interesting. You'd have a couple of weeks of building a cabin. Maybe an episode or two of checking his trapline. Perhaps over a year of so we would finally get footage of Les being successful at catching a fish.
A lot of statements like 'Now I know what it is really like to be lonely'. Maybe he would find a volleyball to talk to.
 
I liked frontier house too. But the people on it weren't survival knowledgable.

I'd rather see Les do it. People with him would make it easier IMO. The mental challenge of being alone for that long and all that. I don't care where it is really. I just thought of the island because he seemed to have to spend less energy getting food and water there. He could devote more time to other projects...
 
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