Looking for a good blade, i will specify my needs in the post.

i cant see why so many people put down noss test, they show the toughness of the blade and save a lot of people money by determining how tough a blade is.
i dont think i can simplify it any better than that. thats just the way it is in my opinion. By the way, i still havent decided on a handle for my bravo-1, so far the top favorite is bamboo but im not to sure about its durability. so lets stay on topic.
 
Tuffblade said:
i cant see why so many people put down noss test, they show the toughness of the blade and save a lot of people money by determining how tough a blade is.
i dont think i can simplify it any better than that. thats just the way it is in my opinion. By the way, i still havent decided on a handle for my bravo-1, so far the top favorite is bamboo but im not to sure about its durability. so lets stay on topic.
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Well if Noss tested the Bravo-1, and it performed well in the slicing, and edge retention categories, but the tip broke off when he plunged into sheet metal, would that mean it's a bad knife?


I like his tests, but I wouldn't expect my survival knife to make it through those tests without being broken. I don't need it to.
 
Squeezymo said:
Well if Noss tested the Bravo-1, and it performed well in the slicing, and edge retention categories, but the tip broke off when he plunged into sheet metal, would that mean it's a bad knife?


I like his tests, but I wouldn't expect my survival knife to make it through those tests without being broken. I don't need it to.
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No.. it would mean the Bravo one has a weak tip compared to the ones that could accomplish this without failure. If someone is looking for a knife with a strong tip they may be turned off by this fact.

Personally I want the complete package when I'm choosing a hard use knife. toughness/ strength being number one, two and three in all areas. If some don't want the toughest blades then great for them buy what you want. Any blade can cut with the proper geometry so a little work can make poor cutters excellent cutters and you can have a knife that's a fine cutter but also very tough and strong and will be very hard to break helping to guarantee you still have a knife that can cut and can chop. Instead of just a knife in 2 or 3 pieces. For me it's a simple choice of what to chose.
 
Bamboo is plenty tough. If you have any questions, give Mike Stewart a holler and he'll tell you what you want to know. He's a straight shooter.

EDIT: I was over at JD and asked Mike, he says it is plenty tough and 100% genuine bamboo.

Tuffblade said:
i cant see why so many people put down noss test, they show the toughness of the blade and save a lot of people money by determining how tough a blade is.
i dont think i can simplify it any better than that. thats just the way it is in my opinion. By the way, i still havent decided on a handle for my bravo-1, so far the top favorite is bamboo but im not to sure about its durability. so lets stay on topic.
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noss's test are what ytou make of them, like he said if you wanted a knife with a strong tip, you could say the bravo1 (for example BTW. noss hasn't even tested a bark river) probably would not suit your needs, his test help alot and like he says, it's all on video so you can make whatever you want of the test and take in the info you get from it.


tuffblade; I always baton on my handle (especially if I have a smaller knife) so I kinda like micarta for it's amazing durability, (I also love the look of the green linen micarta) but bamboo should be plenty tough, even though micarta would be my choice.
:D

and if by chance something does happen to the handle, you can send it tobark river for some care/ repair.
they have a great warranty that covers the handle too.
:D
 
noss4 said:
No.. it would mean the Bravo one has a weak tip compared to the ones that could accomplish this without failure. If someone is looking for a knife with a strong tip they may be turned off by this fact.

Personally I want the complete package when I'm choosing a hard use knife. toughness/ strength being number one, two and three in all areas. If some don't want the toughest blades then great for them buy what you want. Any blade can cut with the proper geometry so a little work can make poor cutters excellent cutters and you can have a knife that's a fine cutter but also very tough and strong and will be very hard to break helping to guarantee you still have a knife that can cut and can chop. Instead of just a knife in 2 or 3 pieces. For me it's a simple choice of what to chose.
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Exactly. I'm all for your tests, because I have nothing to lose while watching them. But the OP is saying he disdained Chris Reeve knives because of one of your tests when he has no idea how the Bravo-1 would fair. He may have retracted that statement, but I do know he wants us to keep it on topic.

But in response to you Noss, I don't put my knife under near any of the hard uses you put yours through, and I don't like knives as choppers and such. It's a matter of taste. You've told me before you like big knives because you can slice with them and chop with them and they are practically a little knife with a big knife. In essence, if you have a big knife, it can act as a small knife, but if you have a small knife it can't act as a big knife. That's fine, but I just have a different taste. When I'm camping I don't split wood, or chop it. I do use the spine of my knife to whack at branches sometime to break them, and my knife works fine for that. But if my knife broke because I smacked it against a rock 30 times, then would I be dissapointed? No, because that's not what I bought that knife to do. If I wanted to do everything you do in your tests, then I would definitely use your test as a basis of my purchase as a comparison of 2 knives, but not whether or not it was a good knife.
 
noss4 said:
carrot:Then don't watch it. The goal of the tests is toughness and strength. It's amazing that some can not grasp this simple concept. I can't cut
tomatoes and say a knife is tough and strong. It just doesn't work !! Period !!
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Please see your PM's.
 
noss4 said:
Personally I want the complete package when I'm choosing a hard use knife. toughness/ strength being number one, two and three in all areas.
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To me, "survival" means a life-threatening situation where the outcome is uncertain. There's no way to know beforehand exactly what kind of survival situation I might get into and exactly what I might have to do to get out of it.

If I'm in a survival situation I'll already have enough problems. I do the very best I can to choose a knife that will contribute to the solution, whatever it might be, and not be another problem. I may never need great toughness and strength from a survival knife but, if I do, I'll probably be in a world of hurt if I don't have them.
 
Tuffblade said:
i cant see why so many people put down noss test, they show the toughness of the blade and save a lot of people money by determining how tough a blade is.
i dont think i can simplify it any better than that. thats just the way it is in my opinion. By the way, i still havent decided on a handle for my bravo-1, so far the top favorite is bamboo but im not to sure about its durability. so lets stay on topic.
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I agree completely.

I look at those knife tests the same way I look at crash tests on a new vehicle. Is that the way I intend to use my new vehicle, driving it into a concrete wall??? NO!!!! But it is nice to know what to expect if that day ever comes where we have a head on crash.

Same thing with a knife. Do I ever plan on cutting cinder blocks? No I don't, but I would like to know what might happen if I hit a rock or a nail in a tree while chopping or whatever. I never chipped a blade while cutting a tomato, not even a super hard green one.
 
If you want to know what would happen if you hit a rock or nail in a tree, hit a rock or a nail in a tree.
:D
 
Update, if something goes wrong with the bark river, as im still doing a little more research. i may just buy a busse. so im still open to any recommendations.
 
Tuffblade said:
Update, if something goes wrong with the bark river, as im still doing a little more research. i may just buy a busse. so im still open to any recommendations.
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If you haven't purchased the bark river then I suggest you don't and get the Busse. Otherwise you may be looking for things wrong with your bark river just so you can get what you really wanted. Or you will always regret not getting one.
 
i thought that maybe there was something other than the bark river that would be better, but now after looking its just about perfect. very good size, can be used in the kitchen,very rugged and durable. convex edge. the only thing thats stopping me is choosing a handle. so far micarta and bamboo wins the day.
ide like to know the components a2 has in it, like percent of carbon, chrome etc that kinda stuff.
 
i don't know all of that ....all I know that it is a Bark Rivers and if the design fits your taste buy one,Excellent company,Great blades I own 4 BRK&T and Mike Stewart is a great guy... I feel like your thikning to hard on this purshase I may be wrong , Sounds like you need to talk to Bark River.
 
and if you buy a Bravo -1 and did not like it list it on the Trade/Sale Section and it would be gone quickly...I love my Bravo-1 would not sale mine or trade it for no other blade...
 
Just remember if a blade is not sharp enough you can always make it sharper but if a blade is not strong enough you are in the sh#t !!!
 
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