Recommendation? Looking for a nice folder/flipper for a decent price!

It actually is...
I started second-guessing what I had typed last night; so I took a close look at them this morning
The F.F. has the 9CR18 steel. The specs say Nitro-V; but that's not what is there...
 
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Bob Denman said:
It actually is...
I started second-guessing what I had typed last night; so I took a close look at them this morning
The F.F. has the 9CR18 steel. The specs say Nitro-V; but that's not what is there...
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I've got a Mini Arch Bishop too, when I bought it they were clearly advertised as 9cr18, maybe there's been an across the board switch to Nitro-V for the Ferrum Forge knives
 
I guess that I got "old stock".³
What's the difference between. Those steels?
 
Bob Denman said:
I guess that I got "old stock".³
What's the difference between. Those steels?
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Both should be decent but a lot depends on heat treatment. For instance, 9Cr18Mov usually has "okay" edge retention but is excellent with the heat treatment WE uses. The Bo is my only knife in Nitro-V and I only just got it so I don't know. People here seem to like Nitro-V.

I know 9Cr18Mov is very stainless. Based on tables from Larrin, Nitro-V should have about the same corrosion resistance as S30V.

For what it's worth, here is a comparison graph of their compositions. The low carbon content of Nitro-V may be deceptive. Like 14C28N, it contains nitrogen and that seems to help. I included 14C28N on the graph for reference.

 
sir_mike said:
Hey all,

I guess I should clarify my needs or wants or at least what I mean by "heavy user". Now I just want a knife that buikd quilt wise and perhaps some blade thickness will allow me to not "baby" it to the degree that I will be afraid to use it for a specific chore! Do I know exactly what chores I will using it for? So besinds the basics of cutting rope, cardboard, plastic, etc . and some wood cutting/splitting/carving stuff! Probably won't baton but can't say never.

I know it's not easy to pick one knife but let's say it won't be a safe queen! I am open to any brand but do want something with very good stainless steel/properties!

I hope thus helps and I am looking for recommendations for knives that you own or have used and perhaps put thru some work with, not just ones you read about that have good ratings!

Again thx everyone fir the comments and suggestions! Yes I do want something different and new! 😆
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Just based on your definition of “hard use” you need a fixed blade. Inexpensive, cool flipper type knives do not do well with “splitting” and maybe batoning.
 
If you need a really tough folding knife: the Buck 112 would do the job.
 
stevekolt said:
Buck Vantage for the win! American made, lifetime warranty, available in 420HC and S30V (other blade steels if you search for 'em) flipper with a 3.25 inch blade.
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I like my Buck Vantage. It has a flipper that works with a wrist flick. OK with me. Wouldn't baton with it, except as a last resort. My 30cv blade holds a nice edge for a good while.
 
My experience with Civivi has been positive and the Pintail looks like a sturdy knife. If the blade was 3 1/2 inches long, I d have one now.
 
sir_mike said:
Can't carry a fixed blade as EDC so no need a folder!
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Splitting-type tasks really only happen in the woods for me. If I'm going to the woods, I usually know in advance. So I take a fixed blade. This is situational carry as opposed to EDC. (Even then, I might bring a hatchet or axe depending on the circumstance.)

In my day-to-day tasks, when I'm not planning on going deep into the woods or having to split wood without access to other tools, I usually carry a folder. Since I know the chances of me wanting to split, wedge, or do anything else where a thicker blade would come in handy are extremely low for my regular EDC , a thinner blade is better. Toughness is good but I don't own any knives with steel below the toughness threshold of my usual EDC needs. For EDC, I'm happy with a folder or small fixed blade, ground well with stock thickness between 0.08" and 0.125", in any of a variety of decent stainless steels.

Today, I carried a mini Begleiter in N690 with a 0.11" blade stock. I opened a few packages, cut down a cardboard box, and trimmed a loose thread from a new pair of boxers. Exciting, right? It performed admirably in all of those very mundane EDC tasks. :)
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
Legally can’t? Or just won’t.

What about an AD 20.5?
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Legally I can't but really wouldn't want to daily as I don't think my work would like it!

Chronovore said:
Splitting-type tasks really only happen in the woods for me. If I'm going to the woods, I usually know in advance. So I take a fixed blade. This is situational carry as opposed to EDC. (Even then, I might bring a hatchet or axe depending on the circumstance.)

In my day-to-day tasks, when I'm not planning on going deep into the woods or having to split wood without access to other tools, I usually carry a folder. Since I know the chances of me wanting to split, wedge, or do anything else where a thicker blade would come in handy are extremely low for my regular EDC , a thinner blade is better. Toughness is good but I don't own any knives with steel below the toughness threshold of my usual EDC needs. For EDC, I'm happy with a folder or small fixed blade, ground well with stock thickness between 0.08" and 0.125", in any of a variety of decent stainless steels.

Today, I carried a mini Begleiter in N690 with a 0.11" blade stock. I opened a few packages, cut down a cardboard box, and trimmed a loose thread from a new pair of boxers. Exciting, right? It performed admirably in all of those very mundane EDC tasks. :)
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I too would carry a fixed blade if splitting wood and if I new I was going out to do that. When biking or hiking I normally add a mulitool with my folder but then there are times I just hike with a folder in my pocket so want something durable and around 3.25 to 3.5 inch blade.
 
Today; I used my EDC to open up a cardboard box, stab a vent-hole in my coffee cup cover, and trim back an errant fingernail.
Not exactly the most exciting day ever; but I guess it shows that I could get by with carrying a lot less knife!
 
I agree with Bob Denman. This worry (active hate) about "other than real quality" is also found here with certain American companies.
 
CRKT Cottidae. D2, 2.6”, field strip 2 tech, alum handles, action like butter, $70. What’s not to like.
 
Lawilli2 said:
CRKT Cottidae. D2, 2.6”, field strip 2 tech, alum handles, action like butter, $70. What’s not to like.
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I know the field strip technology is novel but $70?

I can get a nice G-10 liner lock in Chinese D2 with a decent heat treatment and great manual action for like $30. Heck, I have a titanium frame lock in Chinese D2 that only cost me $50! I can't justify the $70 to try this knife.

BTW, I just looked and that seems to be an unusually low price for the CRKT Cottidae. At many retailers, it is $80-90! 🤦‍♂️
 
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