Looking into a Strider SnG, wouldn't mind a few tips.

I don't think you gave the 940 a fair chance. it's a great EDC, and outdoor knife.

The sng doesn't offer much cutting surface, so i too suggest the smf, just on specs.

However much you think you'd love an sng, i think you'd love a sebenza as much, if not more. you really aught to see if you can find somewhere to handle one. It really is one of the few things in life that you must "see" (hold) to believe.
 
Dnullify said:
I don't think you gave the 940 a fair chance. it's a great EDC, and outdoor knife.

The sng doesn't offer much cutting surface, so i too suggest the smf, just on specs.

However much you think you'd love an sng, i think you'd love a sebenza as much, if not more. you really aught to see if you can find somewhere to handle one. It really is one of the few things in life that you must "see" (hold) to believe.
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someone should do a multi-knife XM-18, Sebenza, Umnumzaan, SNG, Lahar pass-around :D that'll settle this once and for all.
 
misterjuiceman said:
someone should do a multi-knife XM-18, Sebenza, Umnumzaan, SNG, Lahar pass-around :D that'll settle this once and for all.
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I know, right?
This needs to be done! it'll help people decide what's their ideal knife, because chances are at least one of the above options is ideal for any person looking in that price-range...

more likely it'll convince people they need them all... either way, good for manufacturers!
 
About the DGG and CC grips: I believe the DGGs are actually a little thinner than the CCs. The little pockets ground out of the G-10 make the most shallow parts thinner than the CC grips.

DGG:
Pros: Many like the ergonomics, lighter than regular grips
Cons: Harsh on the pockets

CC:
Pros: Lighter than regular grips, supposedly just as strong as the regular grips (or almost as strong) because of the way the handles are radiused, supposed to be the easiest on the pockets, great ergonomics.
Con: Some have argued that they feel "slick", though I EDC one and don't think they feel slick at all. However, they would probably provide the least amount of grip out of all three. I wouldn't feel uncomfortable using it while wet.
 
I have most of the knives previously mentioned (BM940, SMF CC, Umnumzaan, Sebenza and XM-18) and my experience is that for EDC'ing, the 940 is the most comfortable in the pocket, to the point of forgetting it's even there. In my opinion, it's a big knife in a small body. Plus, it doesn't look menacing to non-knife people. It's very office friendly, so it's my main Monday through Friday knife of choice.

The others feel about the same in the pocket but my favorite would be a toss up between the Sebbie and the Zaan. Both are very similar knives, with the Zaan being slightly (but noticeably) more robustly built.

I haven't owned the XM-18 for a long time, so I can't speak with authority about it. I love it but I still seem to reach for my Umnumzaan a lot more when picking a knife in the morning.

Now the Strider SMF is another kind of beast (I know the OP was talking about the SNG, but I feel it would be a very similar experience). It screams "abuse me" from every square inch of its overbuilt body. If I had to stab something or chop wood with a folder, probably the SMF would be my choice. EDC'ing it is a different thing. For most cutting activities, the SMF seems a little bit uneasy to me. If I use the choil on the blade, I have too much handle left behind my hand and it gets uncomfortable. If I use the handle choil, the cutting edge is a little bit too far from my hand to have total control.

Also, the SMF is huge and looks like a weapon in the eyes of non-knife people. Of course, I may be wrong about the SNG and I'd also be willing to give it a try. And you have to consider that Strider fans absolutely love their knives and such devotion must have a reason.

One last thing. Please don't pay $170 on a BM940. Look around, you should be able to find way better deals.;)
 
I like the SnG regular model with the full sides. The CC looks good though no doubt. There is just something more appealing about the thicker sides though even though I know they are both still quite nice.

The SnG and PT are two of the best frame locks around really. No question they can perform. The bigger SMF is nice too if you want something that big. I the SnG is about perfect though. One thing really nice about these is that they are great winter time knives because its fairly easy to operate them with gloves on and I can't say that about a lot of other knives I carry and use.

It seems there are some recent quality control issues coming up more than I recall in the past but I think they are still batting a fair average over at Strider. Still, I'd probably buy a used one off the forums sooner than one new personally. Actually come to think of it the two SnG and three PT models I have owned were all bought or traded for off the forums with members from here. :thumbup: If its any indication, I've regretted letting my last PT and my last SnG go after selling them.

STR
 
STR said:
I like the SnG regular model with the full sides. The CC looks good though no doubt. There is just something more appealing about the thicker sides though even though I know they are both still quite nice.

The SnG and PT are two of the best frame locks around really. No question they can perform. The bigger SMF is nice too if you want something that big. I the SnG is about perfect though. One thing really nice about these is that they are great winter time knives because its fairly easy to operate them with gloves on and I can't say that about a lot of other knives I carry and use.

It seems there are some recent quality control issues coming up more than I recall in the past but I think they are still batting a fair average over at Strider. Still, I'd probably buy a used one off the forums sooner than one new personally. Actually come to think of it the two SnG and three PT models I have owned were all bought or traded for off the forums with members from here. :thumbup: If its any indication, I've regretted letting my last PT and my last SnG go after selling them.

STR
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How would you rate the SMF, compared to the SNG? If my opinions on the SMF are as they are (my previous post), does the SNG give me a different experience?
 
I EDC a SmF CC Vers most of the time and I love that knife. :thumbup:

It's solid as a tank and the F&F is excellent.

Currently it's between that and my Custom Demko that I EDC.

I think you will be very happy with either the SnG or SmF. :thumbup:
 
I say go for the SnG in any flavor, just try to buy used and resale should result in no loss of funds :)

Here's my most used knives and I can tell you there is NOTHING "like" a DGG SnG. There are knives close to Sebenzas, close to the XM-18... but nothing will be as thin or as light as a DGG SnG or a CC SnG... and still bring that bombproof EDC that your probably looking for :cool:

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sjhong said:
How would you rate the SMF, compared to the SNG? If my opinions on the SMF are as they are (my previous post), does the SNG give me a different experience?
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SnG is smaller. SMF is probably one of the best folders on the planet for hard use war time type use. I mean overall performance wise. A bit big for me but what a knife!

STR
 
Also wanted to add that the SMF and the SnG pack almost the same cutting edge. The blade my measure longer and all that, but in real life when you get the cutting edges right along side one another they are damn near the same :)
 
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STR said:
SnG is smaller. SMF is probably one of the best folders on the planet for hard use war time type use. I mean overall performance wise. A bit big for me but what a knife!

STR
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I agree, it's one heck of a knife if one has the coin. :)
 
Well, a lot to catch up on there. But as for fixed blades (for the heavier use category), they are out of the question for me. Just a personal thing at the moment, and i'm in the market for a folder not a fixed blade. As for the folders mentioned, i think the ZTs are too heavy (~8 oz i believe). I haven't looked into the Zaan yet, which i should. As for the SMF vs SNG, i think the SMF is a little too large for my needs, so i think i'd be better off goin for the SNG, and when circumstances change and call for a larger blade, make a trade for an SMF. And the XM-18 i think would be too hard for me to get ahold of (but hey anything is possible eh :D ).

Now for the legendary Sebenza Vs Strider, the reason i chose the SnG (without any personal exp with either) is due to the ruggedness. The brute strength and heavy duty quality of the knife. I am young, i am reckless, forgetful, you name it. Not that i wouldnt care for my knife (i sure as hell would! especially for $400), it just seems the Strider would be more forgiving. This outlook is subject to change, however, and I am just telling you guys how it is for me.

Now, the custom knives, that's a different story. I am really really new to the knife industry as compared to about anyone out there. But you have to start somewhere. So I am definitely going to take that advice to heart about being patient in finding the right knife for the right price, etc. So for those custom knives, and also the Al Mars you suggested, I have no idea how they are or what to think about them.

But as far as i've seen, anyone who has gotten a strider hasn't regretted it, which is very reassuring. As for which one(s) they got, and if they traded for a different one (eg SnG to SMF, or SnG to DDG/CC SnG) that's different.

And also, the Sebenza isnt regretted either, however, as i said earlier, i think it's a little more fragile (for lack of a better word, because i know it's a workhorse) than the Strider. But hey, who knows, it may be what i need, more of a gentlemans look than the rugged outdoor look, that wouldn't put people off as much in a non-hostile environment.

But keep the feedback coming, i'm loving it. And thanks for the help.

Masterbunny5
 
Masterbunny5 said:
But as far as i've seen, anyone who has gotten a strider hasn't regretted it, which is very reassuring.
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Strider is very hit or miss. There are plenty of people who ended up regretting ever buying a Strider. Then there are people who absolutely adore them. Basically if you end up with a good one its pretty much amazing in all regards. If you get a crappy one you will end up being one cranky sob. Like someone else mentioned if you buy a Strider make sure you try buying it used from the exchange and know exactly what you're getting. This seems to reduce the chance you get something that was made sub par. If you're anal about every little quality of the your knife I would stay away from Strider. If you really dont care and just want an indestructable knife then Strider is right for you.

I own a hand me down SNG and I really like it now even with the off centered blade that wasnt fixed entirely even after it was sent it in. That being said its the one knife I've grown to like alot even though I didnt like it so much at first. Probably my favorite edc even though I cant really carry it around too much since people do get scared when they see it. Last thing I want to add, Strider CS sucks. Alot. Apparently they dont know how to operate a telephone. Just a heads up :D
 
kawr said:
Strider is very hit or miss. There are plenty of people who ended up regretting ever buying a Strider. Then there are people who absolutely adore them. Basically if you end up with a good one its pretty much amazing in all regards. If you get a crappy one you will end up being one cranky sob. Like someone else mentioned if you buy a Strider make sure you try buying it used from the exchange and know exactly what you're getting. This seems to reduce the chance you get something that was made sub par. If you're anal about every little quality of the your knife I would stay away from Strider. If you really dont care and just want an indestructable knife then Strider is right for you.

I own a hand me down SNG and I really like it now even with the off centered blade that wasnt fixed entirely even after it was sent it in. That being said its the one knife I've grown to like alot even though I didnt like it so much at first. Probably my favorite edc even though I cant really carry it around too much since people do get scared when they see it. Last thing I want to add, Strider CS sucks. Alot. Apparently they dont know how to operate a telephone. Just a heads up :D
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Thanks for the input. Yeah, i did hear some stuff about the wavering quality in the blades, so i guess i've just seen the good side :P. And i heard Striders warranty is amazing, is this true? They just have bad CS, but good coverage? And thanks for the heads up :)

Any tips on the exchange? Or is it just as simple as keep an eye on it, wait for options, find one that you like, and go with it?

Masterbunny5
 
One of the best features of the Striders folders besides having my first three initials in the name :D and besides the lock stabalizer and the ability to use them with a gloved hand is the choil that allows you to choke up on the blade. I love that feature and wish it was offered in other great frame locks. For some it takes away cutting edge. For others like myself if I was given the choice of that or the longer blade I'd take the choil. It just gives you that much more handle, allows greater detail work with the point and tip third of the blade, and in my opinion its an added safe guard of sorts because in the event the lock did defeat its going to be damn hard to imagine that blade biting you with your index finger wrapped firmly around that choil forward of the pivot acting as a good block for the blade movement. :thumbup:

STR
 
Masterbunny5 said:
Mrjuiceman: Thanks for the reply man. I'm not sure if it was just my dealer or what (and this is my first time ever handling a Benchmade, period), but the 940 just seemed kind of weak in my hands. The axislock seemed sticky (not smooth to disengage), and it didnt seem to flow well in my hands. It almost seemed cheapish, although the price wasnt. Just my 2 cents on my first experience, and didnt make me feel good about dropping ~170 on it.
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i have a 940; can't say much for the rest other than +1 on the xm-18, i want one so bad

however, i know where you're coming from. it FEELS weak. its a smaller, lighter knife. do not let this deter you, it is indeed a fine piece of tool, and i have beaten the living p!ss out of mine in the short time i have had it. the aluminum scales lost the chalky feeling when they were hit with some engine oil on accident and its scuffed and dirty. but no blade play whatso ever, the lock and action are both smooth as butter despite the lock having gotten quite a bit of sand in it a few times now. the one you dealt with must have been disfunctional as my axis was smooth out of the box. the lock wasn't sticky at at. it does seem to pinch a bit if i flick it without holding the lock, but that problem is remedied easily enough: pull the axis :D

i got it in d2, limited run for less than 150 shipped so your dealer has you grabbing your ankles my friend. good idea to handle it, don't buy it there, but i do suggest you buy it. i love mine. the d2 isn't nearly as brittle as some would have you believe [hacked blindly into some tin through card board on accident, edge rolled but no chips] i've down right abused the poor thing and it loves it. scratched to hell but a very good knife imo
 
Masterbunny5 said:
Thanks for the input. Yeah, i did hear some stuff about the wavering quality in the blades, so i guess i've just seen the good side :P. And i heard Striders warranty is amazing, is this true? They just have bad CS, but good coverage? And thanks for the heads up :)

Any tips on the exchange? Or is it just as simple as keep an eye on it, wait for options, find one that you like, and go with it?

Masterbunny5
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Yes their warranty is second to none. Only problem is their CS is quite possibly the worst I've ever seen in any company I've dealt with. If your knife fails in any way you will be taken care of. Just dont expect them to fix minor F&F issues, its not happening.

Totally agree with STR about the choil. It's awesome and I would trade an inch of cutting surface for that choil any day.
 
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