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:thumbup: Great knives STR. First pic I have seen of them spread out like that.
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Looking into a Strider SnG, wouldn't mind a few tips.
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:thumbup: Great knives STR. First pic I have seen of them spread out like that.I have always wondered about the Strider fascination that there fans seem to get. Now please don't take this as an insult, as I am specifically talking about my line of thinking here. If I were looking for a hard use knife I would of course grab a fixed blade. Even a $45 Izula will take punishment that no folder can withstand. If I was going to grab a folder though, my last choice for a hard use knife would be something that cost around $400. I'd be looking at the CS Tri-Ad lock knives as they would be more cost efficient for something I planed to piss pound on a regular basis. If I wanted to go crazy with cash I'd look long and hard at the Buck/TOPS CSAR or the upcoming ESEE HEST folder if I wanted something more in the tactical looking mold. The HEST particularly looks to have that bomb proof design so many are attracted to.
If I didn't need a hard use folder I certainly wouldn't be looking for one. They are cumbersome, they are heavy, they are not the best slicers and your still stuck with a broken knife. I am not against high dollar knives, just against high dollars for something I am intentionally going to abuse. I have handled a couple of sebenzas and I can't possibly see how someone could need more knife than that with a hinge in it.
To the OP. I hope you find what your looking for. I think that with your current price range you should do your self a favor and look at some "lower end" knives while your doing your research and be honest with yourself about what you'll use the knife for. I'm sure the Strider folks make a good enough knife as do lots of other makers. If you plan to really abuse the knife then the Tri AD lock knives should at least be looked at. If you don't plan to then I think you'll find tons of knives for the money or less with better ergonomics and utility. And if your dead set on a strider for whatever reason I am sure you can find one in your price range here on the for sale forum. Your a braver man than me though, I had more than a few cool toys "lost" or stolen in college. Best of luck either way.
If I didn't need a hard use folder I certainly wouldn't be looking for one. They are cumbersome, they are heavy, they are not the best slicers and your still stuck with a broken knife. I am not against high dollar knives, just against high dollars for something I am intentionally going to abuse. I have handled a couple of sebenzas and I can't possibly see how someone could need more knife than that with a hinge in it.
To the OP. I hope you find what your looking for. I think that with your current price range you should do your self a favor and look at some "lower end" knives while your doing your research and be honest with yourself about what you'll use the knife for. I'm sure the Strider folks make a good enough knife as do lots of other makers. If you plan to really abuse the knife then the Tri AD lock knives should at least be looked at. If you don't plan to then I think you'll find tons of knives for the money or less with better ergonomics and utility. And if your dead set on a strider for whatever reason I am sure you can find one in your price range here on the for sale forum. Your a braver man than me though, I had more than a few cool toys "lost" or stolen in college. Best of luck either way.
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Yeah it looks cool but $500 cool...if you have cash to spend, why not. I have changed my mind, I´m keeping mine. It´s a fun blade to play with and if I want to stab a car...Could be a fun object to pass to my children in the future. Still it´s way, way overpriced IMO.
I have zero doubt it's a great knife. Not sure what you mean by "Pro's". Can you elaborate? Maybe I am missing something. That said I wouldn't mind having one, and giving it a thorough test/beating. Can't justify that type of money though for it's intended use. To each his own though.
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they do. the high cost of the knives is supposed to help pay for the military's knives.
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I would really look at the Umnumzaan. I had a sng and it was a great knife but real comfortable to me. I traded a small micarta sebenza for it and really missed the crk quality. I just received an umnumzaan after selling the sng and couldn't be happier. Crk quality is second to none and the Umnumzaan feels every bit as solid.
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So what it boils down to now is:
I'm going to college. I'm going to have a stupid day or night (at least one). Who knows, i may end up waking up and missing my beloved (insert chosen knife here). So, with that realistically in mind, it's probably best for me to EDC my Delica 4. Any thoughts?
As for the debate, I am still also obsessive over knives, and just want to have one to have one (one as in a seb, strider, etc). So, would it be a good idea to quench this desire for such a knife now, and keep it as a trophy queen in a secure location so that it wont disappear? Or would it be wise to struggle through the desire and wait 4 years and grab one then (maybe out of a different selection)? Either way: get one now, adore it and pamper it for 4 years, then break it out for an EDC or trade it for something else that may have popped up over the years for an EDC; or wait out the 4 years of not having a trophy queen, and grab whatever to EDC then?
As for the one's i'm looking at now it appears that i'm currently stuck between the SnG and the Umnumzaan (since i hear it is the seb's big brother, the next step up, not necessarily size wise, but all around), with the Large Seb classic or 21 coming in a close second to those two tied for first. So any thoughts on the SnG vs 'Zaan/Large Seb?
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I'm going to college. I'm going to have a stupid day or night (at least one). Who knows, i may end up waking up and missing my beloved (insert chosen knife here). So, with that realistically in mind, it's probably best for me to EDC my Delica 4. Any thoughts?
As for the debate, I am still also obsessive over knives, and just want to have one to have one (one as in a seb, strider, etc). So, would it be a good idea to quench this desire for such a knife now, and keep it as a trophy queen in a secure location so that it wont disappear? Or would it be wise to struggle through the desire and wait 4 years and grab one then (maybe out of a different selection)? Either way: get one now, adore it and pamper it for 4 years, then break it out for an EDC or trade it for something else that may have popped up over the years for an EDC; or wait out the 4 years of not having a trophy queen, and grab whatever to EDC then?
As for the one's i'm looking at now it appears that i'm currently stuck between the SnG and the Umnumzaan (since i hear it is the seb's big brother, the next step up, not necessarily size wise, but all around), with the Large Seb classic or 21 coming in a close second to those two tied for first. So any thoughts on the SnG vs 'Zaan/Large Seb?
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I'm not sure if I'd call it the big brother. it's more of the tougher, but similarly sized, first cousin. I'm a big CRK fan, and the fit and finish of my Umnumzaans have been incredible. it's incredibly smooth to open as well. I don't know if I'd give that up for the most-likely-unnecessary-robustness of the the SNG (in your case). I think probalby if I were you though, I'd go with the large 21. The ceramic ball on the framelock is great, but I think really I just prefer well-made standard framelocks. I think the SNG might not be the best first framelock for you, since of the unusually long break-in time. it might be a put off, maybe not though. if I could do it all over again I'd probably just get a large 21 to start with. there is a reason why the Sebenza is the Sebenza.
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Well said :thumbup:
I do like the Umnumzaan, but I'm not so sure it's a "tougher knife." Sure it has a larger pivot but I'v never heard or seen anyone sheer a standard sized pivot. Think about it, something else will fail before the pivot will. The lock will fail, the blade will snap off at a fracture point or something else will fail before a solid steel bolt will sheer. So yeah, Strider's bull pivots and Umnumzaan's pivot may give you warm fuzzys when you look at them... but in real world use they do not matter so much... Also the tip on the Sebenza is much thicker than the Umnumzaan. So why some people are lead to believe the Umnum is thougher is beyond me. It's a great knife, don't get me wrong... just very different from a Sebenza.
Honestly, your in school... invest your money in a Izula and a Alox Cadet and call it a day
Not saying you can't afford a "highend," just saying you will probably be just as happy with that combo and still have that bombproof warranty you get with the Strider at $450 less out of pocket, AND it's a tougher knife Hate to say it, but sometimes the truth hurts
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All that said above, there is still nothing that can scratch the DGG SnG or CC SnG itch.... like the DGG SnG or CC SnG can.
You can't find a lighter, thougher folder that cuts as well or carrys as well as a DGG/CC SnG. :thumbup:
(Just don't expect Chris Reeve fit and finish, and know that they need a month or so break in)
You can't find a lighter, thougher folder that cuts as well or carrys as well as a DGG/CC SnG. :thumbup:
(Just don't expect Chris Reeve fit and finish, and know that they need a month or so break in)
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Even the 21 has a thicker tip than the umnumzaan? If so thats interesting.
I would stay away from 400 dollar knives if you're dipping into your student loans to pay for it. A buddy of mine liked to drop classes and spend his tuition money on his car. 2 years later he woke up to the harsh reality that he spent over 15k on car parts and no diploma. Just a heads up
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Well said :thumbup:
I do like the Umnumzaan, but I'm not so sure it's a "tougher knife." Sure it has a larger pivot but I'v never heard or seen anyone sheer a standard sized pivot. Think about it, something else will fail before the pivot will. The lock will fail, the blade will snap off at a fracture point or something else will fail before a solid steel bolt will sheer. So yeah, Strider's bull pivots and Umnumzaan's pivot may give you warm fuzzys when you look at them... but in real world use they do not matter so much... Also the tip on the Sebenza is much thicker than the Umnumzaan. So why some people are lead to believe the Umnum is thougher is beyond me. It's a great knife, don't get me wrong... just very different from a Sebenza.
Honestly, your in school... invest your money in a Izula and a Alox Cadet and call it a day
Hate to say it, but sometimes the truth hurts
I think it's mostly the pivot. I have never felt that my knives with a normal pivot, specifically my Mayo TNT, were any weaker. if anything, I felt my Mayo custom felt absolutely rock solid, and it "only" has a standard pivot. same with the Lochsa, it's not really an absurdly large pivot, but it's one of the most solid knives I've ever seen.
it probably also helps that the blade stock is slightly thicker, and it has aggressive texturing on the handle. it's a great knife, but you shouldn't avoid the Sebenza because you feel the Umnum is tougher. the main thing about the Umnum is that it has a ceramic ball on the lockbar and it lacks a pivot bushing. it's just a different knife. probably anything you could do to break a Sebenza would break a Umnumzaan just the same (good luck surving any such incident yourself, though)
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Even the 21 has a thicker tip than the umnumzaan? If so thats interesting.
I would stay away from 400 dollar knives if you're dipping into your student loans to pay for it. A buddy of mine liked to drop classes and spend his tuition money on his car. 2 years later he woke up to the harsh reality that he spent over 15k on car parts and no diploma. Just a heads up
I think if the OP wants to spend $400, that's his choice. we have no idea of his situation so we sholdn't assume he can't afford it. since he asked, I just assumed he could.
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Kind of a bulk reply to all the replies you guys have provided. First off, i can afford it. I have certain "spending money" funds. So this money i have can either go to a $400 dollar knife....video games....a video card....pretty much what i want. So this sum of money will be divided over luxury items, so to say, rather than necessities, and it's just where i want to put that money.
Now as for the knife debate. Soooo, i know the Seb is amazing. It has its history and its pedigree. No doubt there, and it has earned it. As for the 'Zaan, i hear good to great things a bout it also. It just hasn't been out as long, or as quickly produced as the seb, so it may not have as large of a following. But the one thing i did hear is that it is kind of a seb with the kinks worked out. Not that the seb has any kinks, i hear the F/F is amazing, bar none almost. But the slight tweaks one may want to the design.
So what i've come to see in CRK vs Strider:
1) Strider covers abuse on warranty, whereas CRK is a lot less forgiving. (Not that i'd abuse, but i would use and would hate for an unfortunate accident or something unexpected to happen and not be covered).
2) CRK fit and finish is superior. Strider is hit and miss on F/F.
3) CRK has a classier look, and more sheeple friendly. Strider has a tactical/wilderness/survival look to it that may be more intimidating to sheeple.
4) Both could be heirlooms worthy of passing down to the next generation, or off to a sibling, significant other, family member, etc. And both have a significant amount of followers to keep value in the secondhand market for trades, sales, etc.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but those comparisons are pretty accurate from what i've heard. As for which one of the 3 i want...the best advice and argument about the three pretty much ends in what i want most. It's mostly personal preference and opinion.
So, beefier tactical look with the warranty signoff to beat it to living hell and not have to worry, go strider. The classier look, perfect f/f every time, and still (very )sturdy knife, go CRK.
That being said:
To help my decision, i need more info on the comparison between Seb and 'Zaan. I just am not sure at this point. I'm pretty sure if i go either way i wont be disappointed in the least. But why do you say Seb > 'Zaan? To each his own on preference, but i am just interested in the justification. And to anyone who says 'Zaan > Seb, please let me know your feelings. Like i said majority of this is preference, and i want to see where people stand and for what reason(s) so that i can relate and guesstimate my position.
Masterbunny5
Now as for the knife debate. Soooo, i know the Seb is amazing. It has its history and its pedigree. No doubt there, and it has earned it. As for the 'Zaan, i hear good to great things a bout it also. It just hasn't been out as long, or as quickly produced as the seb, so it may not have as large of a following. But the one thing i did hear is that it is kind of a seb with the kinks worked out. Not that the seb has any kinks, i hear the F/F is amazing, bar none almost. But the slight tweaks one may want to the design.
So what i've come to see in CRK vs Strider:
1) Strider covers abuse on warranty, whereas CRK is a lot less forgiving. (Not that i'd abuse, but i would use and would hate for an unfortunate accident or something unexpected to happen and not be covered).
2) CRK fit and finish is superior. Strider is hit and miss on F/F.
3) CRK has a classier look, and more sheeple friendly. Strider has a tactical/wilderness/survival look to it that may be more intimidating to sheeple.
4) Both could be heirlooms worthy of passing down to the next generation, or off to a sibling, significant other, family member, etc. And both have a significant amount of followers to keep value in the secondhand market for trades, sales, etc.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but those comparisons are pretty accurate from what i've heard. As for which one of the 3 i want...the best advice and argument about the three pretty much ends in what i want most. It's mostly personal preference and opinion.
So, beefier tactical look with the warranty signoff to beat it to living hell and not have to worry, go strider. The classier look, perfect f/f every time, and still (very )sturdy knife, go CRK.
That being said:
To help my decision, i need more info on the comparison between Seb and 'Zaan. I just am not sure at this point. I'm pretty sure if i go either way i wont be disappointed in the least. But why do you say Seb > 'Zaan? To each his own on preference, but i am just interested in the justification. And to anyone who says 'Zaan > Seb, please let me know your feelings. Like i said majority of this is preference, and i want to see where people stand and for what reason(s) so that i can relate and guesstimate my position.
Masterbunny5
