Looks Like a Great Bowie For The Money...

Combat Utility knife probably, if I were still in the service I'd probably pick one up. I'd kill for a YardKeeper though... I'm sure they're still useable for bushcraft/outdoor recreation, just not perfect for it. At 100 dollars for such a well made knife can anyone really complain?
 
Well, I couldn't pass up on commenting on this topic - hopefully Jerry doesn't yell at me for trolling again, since the original poster explicitly asked for opinions on the Regulator.

First, a warning: my opinions on the Regulator bowie (and unwillingness to roll over and shut up about them) ended up getting me permanently banned from the Scrap Yard forums. So I might be just a touch bitter.

If you get one, get the deregulator. The original regulator version has an all-rubber guard, which protrudes way too far from the handle, and the top guard is way too easy to damage during work like batoning. Several users have seen the exact same mode of guard failure, which goes something like this: batoning knife, smack the tip, but the knife binds up and rotates (since it's a THIRD OF AN INCH thick), despite you pushing down on the handle. As the knife rotates upward, the guard, which sticks out way too far, spins into the log, and is very easily damaged, since it's simply unsupported rubber. Thus, you have to really baby this knife if you want the guard to stay pretty, and babying the knife is not at all what I expect from a Scrap Yard product.

Now, despite the fact that they actually produced a "fix" to this issue in the form of the deregulator, Jerry and Dan still insist that there is no issue whatsoever. In fact, they have, on multiple occasions, blamed the users of the products for the damage they have seen - Jerry even went so far as to call my home phone number (which he only had because I purchased knives from him - a highly inappropriate use of my personal information, IMO), to lecture me about how I was wrong and the design wasn't flawed, and yell at me for trolling when I posted negative things about a few of his products when I was ticked off at the way they handled the situation. If the design wasn't flawed, then why release the deregulator version, with the lame top guard chopped off? It really grinds my gears to see a company that praises a guy for hammering a knife into a cement block, kicking it, and breaking the tip off, to then do a 180 and blame the users for using their knives "incorrectly", when the poorly designed, unsupported rubber guard is damaged.




As far as the rest of the design of the Regulator, I actually think it's a pretty decent knife. HOWEVER, the test team version was a superior design, in my opinion. (This is ONLY from experience with different knife grinds and my understanding of knife geometry - I have not used the release version , as I sold my test team regulator, and I refused to buy the release version due to the reasons I talked about above.

The main difference in the two is that the test team regulator was a full flat grind - that made it a better knife for batoning, and it actually sliced surprisingly well for a 1/3 inch thick blade. The switch to the saber grind on the release version was a big mistake, IMHO, as it might have slightly improved chopping ability, and in doing so it probably sacrificed cutting and batoning performance. The Regulator was never a chopper - it was a sharpened prybar that could cut and chop and baton, and now it's a sharpened prybar that can only chop. The switch in grinds has sacrificed versatility, again IMHO.

On the other hand, the choil on the new regulator is WORLDS better than the choil on the test team version. The TT choil was awful, and one of the things I recommended fixing. While they ignored pretty much every other piece of feedback I provided in the detailed test I submitted, I am glad they at least changed that one thing.


My advice? Find a full flat ground test team version on the exchange, cut off the poorly designed top guard, and you'll have a pretty versatile knife that performs and balances exceedingly well for a third of an inch thick sharpened prybar. Or, buy the release version, and send it off to a knife maker to have a full flat grind put on it.

That was, in fact a helpful response! Thanks MM for chiming in. For the price, it's kind of like the Spyder Bushcraft, it needs some TLC to be a fine knife but has the potential for it. Thanks bro.
 
I got one the other day and it seems to be very well worth the money; sharp, pointy, thick, well balanced, and exceedingly comfortable. If you mess up the handle's good looks batoning or whatever you probably have a bigger problem than knife design to contend with.
 
If you mess up the handle's good looks batoning or whatever you probably have a bigger problem than knife design to contend with.

While I may have sounded like I was dismissing the issue as merely cosmetic, it's not - it's literally chunks of the guard being torn out, which could be a starting point to tears that could spread to the handle. It's a poor design that negatively impacts the performance of the knife.
 
I got one yesterday-used, from a forum member.

Tested it some--Will do more tests this weekend.

So far----

Not a chopper(although you can chop with it).

Whittles fair at best(I sharpened it first)

Very POINTY(for lack of a better word)--Knife would EXCEL at having to stab--ANYTHING!!

Handle is VERY comfortable and unlike all the other Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard handles in shape.

I personally feel the Blade needs to be shaped more like a chopper than of a bowie-unless you intend to hunt wild boar with it.

Will test more and post later
 
I got one yesterday-used, from a forum member.

Tested it some--Will do more tests this weekend.

So far----

Not a chopper(although you can chop with it).

Whittles fair at best(I sharpened it first)

Very POINTY(for lack of a better word)--Knife would EXCEL at having to stab--ANYTHING!!

Handle is VERY comfortable and unlike all the other Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard handles in shape.

I personally feel the Blade needs to be shaped more like a chopper than of a bowie-unless you intend to hunt wild boar with it.

Will test more and post later

Sounds like we found our purpose! It's a pig sticker!
 
Well, I couldn't pass up on commenting on this topic - hopefully Jerry doesn't yell at me for trolling again, since the original poster explicitly asked for opinions on the Regulator.

First, a warning: my opinions on the Regulator bowie (and unwillingness to roll over and shut up about them) ended up getting me permanently banned from the Scrap Yard forums. So I might be just a touch bitter.

If you get one, get the deregulator. The original regulator version has an all-rubber guard, which protrudes way too far from the handle, and the top guard is way too easy to damage during work like batoning. Several users have seen the exact same mode of guard failure, which goes something like this: batoning knife, smack the tip, but the knife binds up and rotates (since it's a THIRD OF AN INCH thick), despite you pushing down on the handle. As the knife rotates upward, the guard, which sticks out way too far, spins into the log, and is very easily damaged, since it's simply unsupported rubber. Thus, you have to really baby this knife if you want the guard to stay pretty, and babying the knife is not at all what I expect from a Scrap Yard product.

Now, despite the fact that they actually produced a "fix" to this issue in the form of the deregulator, Jerry and Dan still insist that there is no issue whatsoever. In fact, they have, on multiple occasions, blamed the users of the products for the damage they have seen - Jerry even went so far as to call my home phone number (which he only had because I purchased knives from him - a highly inappropriate use of my personal information, IMO), to lecture me about how I was wrong and the design wasn't flawed, and yell at me for trolling when I posted negative things about a few of his products when I was ticked off at the way they handled the situation. If the design wasn't flawed, then why release the deregulator version, with the lame top guard chopped off? It really grinds my gears to see a company that praises a guy for hammering a knife into a cement block, kicking it, and breaking the tip off, to then do a 180 and blame the users for using their knives "incorrectly", when the poorly designed, unsupported rubber guard is damaged.




As far as the rest of the design of the Regulator, I actually think it's a pretty decent knife. HOWEVER, the test team version was a superior design, in my opinion. (This is ONLY from experience with different knife grinds and my understanding of knife geometry - I have not used the release version , as I sold my test team regulator, and I refused to buy the release version due to the reasons I talked about above.

The main difference in the two is that the test team regulator was a full flat grind - that made it a better knife for batoning, and it actually sliced surprisingly well for a 1/3 inch thick blade. The switch to the saber grind on the release version was a big mistake, IMHO, as it might have slightly improved chopping ability, and in doing so it probably sacrificed cutting and batoning performance. The Regulator was never a chopper - it was a sharpened prybar that could cut and chop and baton, and now it's a sharpened prybar that can only chop. The switch in grinds has sacrificed versatility, again IMHO.

On the other hand, the choil on the new regulator is WORLDS better than the choil on the test team version. The TT choil was awful, and one of the things I recommended fixing. While they ignored pretty much every other piece of feedback I provided in the detailed test I submitted, I am glad they at least changed that one thing.


My advice? Find a full flat ground test team version on the exchange, cut off the poorly designed top guard, and you'll have a pretty versatile knife that performs and balances exceedingly well for a third of an inch thick sharpened prybar. Or, buy the release version, and send it off to a knife maker to have a full flat grind put on it.

Thanks MM. I think you do have strong opinions but nothing wrong with that. You definitely don't cross the line, at least not that I've seen, just straight up about what you think. Which as long as it's stated in a respectful manner I see no problem with.
 
I've had a couple of scrapyards. I bought into the indestructable mystique. Still have my SOD and certainly believe the knife is indestructible. It is a great chopper, actually outchops my RD-9. In the end though, I just haven't reconciled the need for a chopper knife. So it gets a lot of shelf time.

I used to be one of those guys who poo poo'ed on midsized knives. The dreaded enduro- of knives, can't chop and can't whittle. Yet, I really like mid-sized blades now. When it comes down to it, I really don't actually chops stuff with my knives. I baton like a ba$tard, but I don't really chop too much. I prefer a lighter blade like the RC-6. Its big enough to handle any chore I need to dish out and doesn't cause me to walk like Quasimoto.

I don't fault scrapyard for that. Its just a change in my perspective. MM - I think you brought up some really good points. Its too bad you had such a terrible experience at the yard forum. I remember you posting there frequently when I was visiting there. I haven't been there in about a year though. I generally liked the place and the users but it does get restrictive having to talk about things in the confines of one manufacturer and I try to avoid the buying-frenzy posts anymore.
 
Sounds like we found our purpose! It's a pig sticker!

That's actually a good point - one of the things I praised about the TT Regulator in my original reviews was its utility for tip work. The thick stock and flat grind let the knife have a VERY pointy tip, while still being extremely robust. That made it outstanding for tip work. Doing things like drilling, or prying out chips, the Regulator bested just about every knife I own. I could see it having a lot of utility for intricate building, which is why I actually considered it at least the equal of the SY SoD in terms of use as a camp blade. For many camp tasks, the SoD outshines the Regulator, but in other tasks, the Regulator is pretty awesome.

It's a shame they changed the grind. A full flat ground deregulator, offered at the current price, would be a pretty sweet knife.
 
That's actually a good point - one of the things I praised about the TT Regulator in my original reviews was its utility for tip work. The thick stock and flat grind let the knife have a VERY pointy tip, while still being extremely robust. That made it outstanding for tip work. Doing things like drilling, or prying out chips, the Regulator bested just about every knife I own. I could see it having a lot of utility for intricate building, which is why I actually considered it at least the equal of the SY SoD in terms of use as a camp blade. For many camp tasks, the SoD outshines the Regulator, but in other tasks, the Regulator is pretty awesome.

It's a shame they changed the grind. A full flat ground deregulator, offered at the current price, would be a pretty sweet knife.

How does it compare weight wise to the SoD ?
 
On my scale, the Regulator weighed in at 14.25oz, and the SoD at 14.85, so very little difference weight-wise.
 
It looks like they just satin finished some of the test team blanks. Personally, I am not a fan of satin SR101 - it stains and rusts way too easily. I LOVED my Swamp Rat M9LE but ended up selling it because it was a pain to keep the blade free of rust, even using things like tuff cloths it still stained really easily.

But if the price is right, I'd definitely try to get a proxy and snag that one over the saber grind. You could always get it coated, which is a lot easier than getting the saber re-ground.
 
It looks like they just satin finished some of the test team blanks. Personally, I am not a fan of satin SR101 - it stains and rusts way too easily. I LOVED my Swamp Rat M9LE but ended up selling it because it was a pain to keep the blade free of rust, even using things like tuff cloths it still stained really easily.

But if the price is right, I'd definitely try to get a proxy and snag that one over the saber grind. You could always get it coated, which is a lot easier than getting the saber re-ground.

Yep. Looks good but I think you're right about just Satinizing some TT editions. It looks more appealing though. I must say.
 
Oh no, when it's clean, satin SR101 is gorgeous, especially when it's differentially tempered and you can see the temper line.

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I've got the test team version and really like it.
I was going to buy the new version, but I don't think I will simply because I've got the TT version.
MM
I haven't been on the yard forum in a while, when did you get banned?
 
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