Lord, forgive me, but I hate Sheeple!

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JDBraddy

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When I lost my beloved small custom EDC knife a few weeks ago, I came here looking to find a replacment. In the mean time, I decided to carry my Large graphic Sebenza. I'm a Hospice nurse who is in and out of various hospitals and nursing homes all day, and knew it wouldn't be long before someone said something. Healthcare is a bastion of the P. C. Today it happened. An LVN asked if I had something he could use to open a box, and I handed him my Sebenza. He said WOW! obviously admiring the knife. A social worker standing nearby said "You can't bring a knife like that into this facility." I asked what was wrong with it. She said the facility policy says a knife blade can't be longer than the width of your palm. I have fairly large hands, and demonstrated the Sebenza's 3.5" blade was indeed almost an inch shorter than the width of my palm. This lady is five foot tall, and might weigh 100lbs when she's carrying a heavy purse. She asked to see it, then demonstrated saying "Well it's longer than the width of MY palm." I didn't argue further. I just said Ok, and put it back into my pocket, knowing I had just bought a used small Sebenza and the Kershaw TiZDP Leek, though if the width of "her palm" is to be the standard, they might well be too large also!
 
Did this person have any authority over you? If she isn't in your chain of command I don't see any reason to pay any attention to her opinion about knives. It seems as if the rules, if really as stated, need some clarification also.

This is another of many reasons not to hand your knife to anybody else unless it is another knifeknut admiring it who you know has the common sense and respect for your property to not turn it into a catastrophe. Joe
 
That is funny. I remember how all throughout college and early working career I used to carry a Bucklite #422 folder in my backpack. I used to use it for opening mail and for general cutting purposes. I even remember taking it on a plane a few times with no problems. I think it's got a 2.5" blade or something like that. I don't carry it anymore for the same reason. People would probably freak out if they saw me with it, and I may be carted off to Gitmo or something.
 
The Mastiff said:
Did this person have any authority over you? If she isn't in your chain of command I don't see any reason to pay any attention to her opinion about knives. It seems as if the rules, if really as stated, need some clarification also.

This is another of many reasons not to hand your knife to anybody else unless it is another knifeknut admiring it who you know has the common sense and respect for your property to not turn it into a catastrophe. Joe
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The guy I handed it to, was admiring it. That's what attracted the attention of the uber-liberal, intolerant, social worker! No, she has no direct authority over me, but she does represent the facility I was in, wich is a Client of my employer. It's simply good buisiness practice to comply the wishes of your clients, while you're in their facility.
 
It's simply good buisiness practice to comply the wishes of your clients, while you're in their facility.
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Understood. I wasn't aware of the situation. I thought she was just another coworker busybody. Joe
 
Where I work everyone know I'm a maniac and have at least one blade on me. No problem so far. Like one local policeman said: "We have tons of unregistered guns out there… get lost with your pocket knives"
 
HCA's coporate policy is no weapons on any hospital owned property. Okay then, it's a tool. But during the evac of Tulane Hospital post Katrina several staff members carried scalpels for protection. I'm still at a loss for that one.

Luckily my boss is smart enough to realize that a pocket knife is just that, an all around implement. In fact she gave Letherman Micros to the males on staff as a Christmas gift a few years back.
 
I had someone ask me recently "Why do you have a knife?!?". I joked, "Because I can. My question to you is, why don't YOU have a knife?" She laughed and that was the end of it.

Yeah, even though she was cool, Sheeple suck.
 
I work in EMS and not too long ago my partner was trying to pull apart plastic binding on some linen. I pulled my knife out and cut it and told her she needs to get a small knife. She said to me we are not aloud to carry weapons at work. I responded it's a tool to do jobs like that which I just did. Besides... I never used a knife against anyone so how is it a weapon. She couldn't respond.
 
JDBraddy said:
attracted the attention of the uber-liberal, intolerant, social worker!
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Not to hijack or anything, but this is the problem I have with these "sheeple suck" threads. Granted there are some liberals who are afriad of knvies and guns, but there's probably an equal ammount of rightward leaning folks who have the same feelings.

My EDC is a nearly four inch Benchmade 710, and guess what? I'm as liberal as it gets. I believe in the constitution of this wonderful country and all the freedom it gives us, including the second amendment. The only thing keeping my from owning as many guns as I do knives is money. My entire family are liberal democrats and I leared to use knives and shoot guns at a very tender age (my first knife was a Buck 110 at the age of 6).

The sheeple problem has nothing to do with political correctness (the very idea of a PC world makes me vomit a little inside), it has more to do with education and application of skills. If someone wasn't raised around knives and guns, and tools for that matter, they won't be as likely to see the usefulness and value... and some will have the idea that a knife is a weapon no matter what.

I've had my fair share of sheeple experiences and I just chalk it up to their upbringing. As long as you're carrying legally and responsibly, you don't have to answer to anyone.

In your case though, I see this more as a liability issue, especially in health care facilities. There are some complete nutjobs in some of these places and you don't want them getting a hold of a knife.

Anyhoo, pardon my rambling and I now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
 
JDBraddy, I, like you, am just astonished at the attitudes and behavior I see the sheeple exhibit every single day and everywhere I go. God help me, or not, I don't tolerate those idiots very well, either! I'm way too old to put up with all their crap. Thank goodness it's not as bad -- I'm thinking about knives and the sheeple's reactions to them now -- here in the small Southern city my wife and I live on the edge of as it must be in larger cities, especially those further north and on the left coast. About 16 years ago now I had a hip joint replaced. Being in the medical field, I'm sure you know that's no easy procedure. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, the surgeon makes an incision about 10 inches long in the side of your butt to get access to the hip joint, then he bends your leg way around toward your chest to dislocate your hip completely, then he saws a few inches off the end of your femur, then he drives a prosthesis several inches long down into the remaining bone, then he places a polished ball on top of that spike, then he screws a metal plate into your ruined pelvis, then he snaps a plastic insert into that part, unbends your leg, crams your new joint back together, and sews your a$$ up. Pardon the long description. I'm really getting to the point of this story. It's about knives and attitudes toward them. I was in the hospital nearly two weeks, a day or two extra because an uncaring nurse (they are rare here, but...) hurt me unnecessarily while changing my bandage. I reported what had happened to my doctor when he visited me, and she got read the riot act for what she'd done and was formally written up. I slept very lightly after that! And, since I was able to wear my underwear in bed by that time, I kept a large folding knife clipped into my waistband ... "just in case." It was covered by my sheet, but it was there if I needed it. I had no intention of letting anyone give me a shot some night if I didn't now what it was and who was giving it. I just don't leave home without my knife, and usually it's multiple knives. Nobody here where I live cares. This is considered normal and SOP, just as it should be, with the exception of in our schools and the government offices and buildings. Schools nowadays have this insane "zero tolerance" policy about knives, but my wife, who has been a teacher for many years, and who uses knives almost as much as I do, doesn't pitch a hissy fit when one of her little boys messes up and brings a knife to school because he's proud of it like I was at that age. She quietly puts it in her desk and then gives it back to the kid's mama when she comes by to pick him up or visit his teacher. Official policy is to go nuts, throw the kid out of school (maybe permanently!), and quite possibly send him away in the back of a cop's car to be turned over later to his parent or whatever he's living with. Although this is a new and wonderfully "diverse" population, it is invariably the the little redneck boys whose fathers and uncles teach them about fishing, hunting, camping, and the other proper things kids should know who want to show their knives to other kids and their teacher because they are proud of them, as they should be. My wife and I understand that these are the kids whose hands the future of our country rests in. She treats them accordingly, too. Sorry for rambling so long here today.
 
I am quite fortunate at work. I made a small (3" OAL) blade out of 1/16" 01 tool steel scrap, looks like a very small skinner. It hangs in my cubicle by a little piece of rare earth magnet. People know that it is a knife they can borrow (as long as they return it) to open boxes and other small tasks.

Ric
 
What is so dastardly hypocritical about these jerk-wads who object to using knives at work>>~~ especially when you have legitimate use for one >> is that if you go to their house and pull open their kitchen drawer almost everyone in the USA has at least a dozen kitchen type knives :confused: And most of them exceed 10 inches in length :eek:

I think the USA has become a nation of bitchers, gripe-ers, Whiners, complainers and worst of all bunch of five and dime, tattle tail snitches who try to brown nose their way to job promotions by Judasizing good fellow workers; thus stripping the liberty of good workers.

The bottom line is this:: A KNIFE IS A TOOL. that's really all that needs to be said about it. The automobile is the most dangerous weapon in our society today. Why just this week here in Kansas City Missouri metro area we have had 8 traffic fatalities that I am aware of. No knife or gun killed those folks. Frickin Cell Phones kill more people than knives or guns do. These disgusting Cell Phone Addicts are far more dangerous on the roads with vehicles than anyone who carryies guns or knives :mad: Since we've had conceal and carry guns laws enacted here in Missouri I think they said they've only had 2 violations of people using their firearms for nefarious reasons. That's not bad out of over 400,000 people.

The stupid fools totally overlook the real root of all of these social problems. But I can assure you it ain't guns or knives that are the problem :( And these draconian politicians know all of this too.
 
Might be OT, but this reminds me of a similar event. I was visiting my friend Clint in the hospital. He had cystic fibrosis and his family didn't have great financial resources. The hospital was a philanthropic children's hospital but would treat children diagnosed with a terminal illness until their late teens. There was a rec room set up for the older kids, and I brought over a video game called Dead or Alive...a fighting game with well endowed female characters (but no nudity and just mild animated violence). Anyway a social worker came in an saw it and about had a cow. Clint kept telling me it was OK and the room was for the older kids, but she just kept hounding us. Sheeple...she was drawing more attention to the game than if she left us alone. We had a good laugh about it later. Clint didn't make it to 20...

Knowing him sort of gave me the push to do what I am doing...medical research...
 
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