"Lukewarm" to blade upgrade

...Trax...Somehow I will not believe that their "tolerance" on that length is +/- .125. I'm sure Joe will be happy to get that one back for some "adjustments" to be made...unless you want to trade me for a like new "V" blade ...LOL...
 
chickentrax said:
If it passed Buck's Quality Control, it must be within their limits, right???

Beggars can't be choosers...this was probably all they had...

You be the judge...

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I like it, I will have to send mine in for an upgrade, since darryl has this one locked in LOL :D
$35.00 for S30V upgrade, cant really go wrong I guess. Then at least I will use it! Good luck with it, i am sure that they will take good care of you Trax :D
 
DarrylS said:
...Trax...Somehow I will not believe that their "tolerance" on that length is +/- .125. I'm sure Joe will be happy to get that one back for some "adjustments" to be made...
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Adjust to what??? This is what is coming out of Buck for blade upgrades...Live with it...I can...
 
...I know you can live with it Trax...but I don't know of any "blanking tolerances" in existance that have a spread as wide as your blade suggests on a part with similar finished dimensions. I worked in fine-blanking and heavy tonnage and the tolerances for blanking out 48 inch X 4 inch X .500 stainless steel using a 400 ton press was +/- 1/32"...and that was fed by hand by the operator bumping up against a "stop"...I know that's what's coming out of there but it is NOT right...
 
DarrylS said:
...I know you can live with it Trax...but I don't know of any "blanking tolerances" in existance that have a spread as wide as your blade suggests. I worked in fine-blanking and heavy tonnage and the tolerances for blanking out 48 inch X 4 inch X .500 stainless steel using a 400 ton press was +/- 1/32"...and that was fed by hand by the operator bumping up against a "stop"...I know that's what's coming out of there but it is NOT right...
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Could it be the 110 underwent a slight blade shape change?
They are different now compared to early models?
Is a blade with the BUCK only stamp the same exact shape as a new idaho stamped blade? I dont have any early ones or i would check for myself.
Is there any info on the blade shapes? Thanks
 
wh4f said:
Could it be the 110 underwent a slight blade shape change?
They are different now compared to early models?
Is a blade with the BUCK only stamp the same exact shape as a new idaho stamped blade? I dont have any early ones or i would check for myself.
Is there any info on the blade shapes? Thanks
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...Jim...my feeling is that the blade is "punched out" using a one piece punch and die that has the length running much longer than when finished. I'd bet the blade became shorter going through hand grinding after the blanking process. In my opinion even with hand operations their tolerance would never be greater than +/- .062...
 
DarrylS said:
...but I don't know of any "blanking tolerances" in existance that have a spread as wide as your blade suggests on a part with similar finished dimensions.
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According to a post Joe made not long ago, they cut the blades out with a Laser now...no more punch presses...if this was Laser cut, then it was cut undersize or sharpened down quite a lot...
 
Thanks Trax and Darryl,
we'll have to wait and see what Joe says :)
I suppose they could have sharpened/ground it down a bit...
Laser cuts should be quite accurate unless wrong dimension was used
 
chickentrax said:
According to a post Joe made not long ago, they cut the blades out with a Laser now...no more punch presses...if this was Laser cut, then it was cut undersize or sharpened down quite a lot...
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...Yep...I'm betting it was hand worked way out of even their tolerances...
 
Let me say again...I had intended to get a 110 S30V blade upgrade eventually, to go with any others I could get...For this upgrade, I requested BG-42, 154CM, or ATS-34 (in that order)...If S30V is all that's available, then that's what we've got...dream all you wish, but it's 420HC or S30V...take your pick...

Stubby S30V at that.

But it's still better than nothing...and nothing was what I was beginning to think I'd get...
 
So now we are all measuring our blades....:D

I went through a hand full laying here within reach and out of all of them, only a four dot hit a full 3/4 mark. Then opened a club dp and it hit a full 3/4.
Two AG S30V were 1/16th shy as was a new Idaho, and several other dots and no dots. but I figure some of those old ones was due to sharpening.

The two AG's are new in box. The user AG was a little more than 1/16 shy probably due to me putting my edge on it.

Another Buck oddity... :D
 
...I'm still sure that Joe will have this whole thing taken care of. I just really, really hope that the BG-42, ATS-34 and 154CM become available again some how. I have 110's in 440C, 425M, BG-42 and S30V but I do not have the ATS-34 or it's "American brother" 154CM...If there's anyway possible way to see this happen I'm also sure that Joe will find it. There are times he seems to do the impossible and I'm gonna keep hoping that this will be another one of them...
 
chickentrax said:
$65 from Bass pro -



$65 is the same as what Buck wants for a blade upgrade, if you buy a Wal-Mart 110 in the yellow box...($29.95)...

I wonder if the 154 CPM is 3 5/8" long, too...
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:thumbup: ...Great idea Trax...I forgot all about that one...I'll get that in the works after I start warming the wife up to the possibility of another "package" maybe arriving in the mail sometime in the near future and seeing her reaction...:eek: :D ...If she smiles even a little I'll be able to let ya know about the length a short time later...:D :D
 
Maybe the tip got broken and some "adjustment grinding" was done to fix it?

I'm still thinking about getting an S30V upgrade now that they are available. I think I might have chosen it over the BG-42 if I'd had the choice!
 
Just for the fun of it...measured to the nearest 16th from the top of the bolster, my four 110's are:

#1 Idaho stamp = 3 11/16
#2 Idaho stamp = 3 11/16
#3 Idaho stamp = 3 11/16
#4 T stamp = 3 12/16

Thanks to Buck for a great product at a very modest price. I hope some machinest doesn't get sacked over 1/16 of an inch. Maybe just scolded a little like I get at work (and home).;)

The three Idaho 110'e were to be gifts. I'll get around to that some day...maybe.
 
rhino said:
Maybe the tip got broken and some "adjustment grinding" was done to fix it?
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So you're saying that Buck sells damaged S30V blades as "upgrades" over brand-new 420HC blades??? Or maybe used warranty-replaced blades are sent back out as "upgrades"???
 
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