Made in China?

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At the beginning of this forum it says -all made in the USA. I got a 127OT on ebay that I now find was made in China. What's with that?
 
I'll tell ya whats with that... Do a search here in the schrade forum it is a subject that comes up quite often. schrade went out of business in 2004 and they are now made by taylor in china under the name schrade. You gotta make sure you know where the knife your buying was made. we just had a thread I started comparing the china junk schrades which arent really schrades they are just using that name versus the real usa made schrades. It comes up quite a lot, search china schrades under the forum tool and you should get a bunch of info. sellers on ebay arent too quick to tell ya that there made in china but if there made in the usa it should say it somewhere in the lising and there is one rule of thumb if it dosent say USA on the tang of the blade it aint from here.
 
The owner of the factory in China who makes these for Taylor thanks you. Taylor thanks you. And the dealer who ho.... sold you the Chinese knife as a USA made Schrade thanks you.

Michael
 
In no way do I mean any offense but in my opnion yes you got hosed.... Especially because you didint know you were getting a chinese schrade. In the future if you are unsure ask the seller if it is a usa schrade. Or make sure in the pic you can see USA on the knife-
 
popcornpicker that happened to me once too. I was out about the same amount of money on a UH897. Look at it as an investment in future collections. I'll bet you won't make the same mistake twice. :)
 
I got all excited over a low price on a knife in an authentic looking clampack and bid. Dangit.

I got a new flyer from my local farm supply store yesterday, Tractor Supply Company (TSC) and they had three "schrade" knives listed. Do you suppose they are real?:rolleyes:

Michael
 
I visited my local TSC, wandered around and came across the knife section, really thought I had found a winner, Imperial Family of knives, 3 folding knives new in clampack, what a find, pick the clampack up and yes MADE IN CHINA, I had seen the original clampack posted around so I was familiar with the backing card, what a disapointment. Live and learn.

Rusty1
 
Don't feel bad popcornpicker. It happens to the best of us once or twice.
Like Codger I got excited & bid on a 5UH in the closing minutes of an auction I stumbled across. It was made in China. Lousy knife, bad fit & finish, grit between the tang & liner (it grinds when I open it), and poor job of sharpening.

I threw it in a drawer & there it sets until I find someone I dislike enough to give it to. :D

Dale
 
I feel better knowing I'm not the only one that went down. Maybe this forum needs to say " All made in the USA except for the ones made in CHINA".
 
Truth be told, Imperial Schrade did import some product and components from China before they closed. Particularly as they began shifting work away from the Ireland factory before it was finally closed. Some of their packaging was printed there as well. IMPERIAL SCHRADE CORP. pretty well says it though. And it's ancestors.

Michael
 
Went into a hardware store May 31 and saw a Schrade 'Old Timer' display case full of Schrade knives. Most were made in China, but there was an "Improved Muskrat 770t" that had a USA stamp on it. I compared the Chinese made knives with the USA knife and I really couldn't see a quality difference. The display Muskrat was the last one left so I bought it, not because it was better quality but because Schrade's not making knives in the USA any more, so it'll hold it's value better.

I've got a Gerber Paraframe knife that was made in China (or is it Taiwan?) and it's a fine, useful knife.

Now I've also got a USA made Case Yellow Trapper, and that is a thing of beauty. The Schrade Improved Muskrat may be USA made, but it doesn't compare with the Case knife. Some USA made products were the best in the world and some were mediocre. And some Chinese knives are crap, but I've seen some that are indistinguishable from the USA counterparts. I see now that Buck is having some of it's knives made in China.
 
I'm glad you like the china knives.You can have my share.I've yet to see one worth the shipping for it much less the asking price.Arnold
 
Why is it some cannot see the difference between the USA knives and China counterparts, Old Timers/Uncle Henry's for instance. Why?

Rusty1
 
Go to any store that sells the Schrade Golden Spike. It's now made in China, and if it had the USA stamp on it, you'd all say it was a great knife.

It's getting harder and harder to find products that are USA made. Try finding an SOG knife that's not made in Asia.

Admit it; when you go to a store to look at knives, you look for that USA stamp, don't you? I do. Otherwise, I wouldn't know where it was made.

I'll buy a USA made product if it's better, even if it's more expensive. But I won't pay more for a mediocre product.
 
Sometimes the difference isn't immediately seen. Once you get into use, then you see the inferior materials and workmanship come out. I have seen this with the "Rough Rider" brand. They look real good out of the box too, but don't hold up IMO.

Of course the Schrades look exactly alike. They are using the same patterns and packaging (legally, of course) as the original, so they are passing these off as the "real deal".

BTW, I have a Paraframe (2, actually), and I like them. :)

Glenn
 
the test will be to see it the China made Schrade's hold up. i have a 3 1/4 in. Steel Warrior 2 blade, locking wharncliffe copperhead which initially impressed me with it's fit 'n finish, solid feel and great edge grind. however, after only 1 week of carry and very light duty use, the main locking blade suddenly developed blade play while cutting open an envelope ! i am not disappointed, because at 1/5th the price of a similar USA or Germany made knife, if it did hold up equal to these, then all my other (non Chinese) knives might seem a bit less special.
i would like to hear more feedback from those who have Chinese Schrades after they have used them awhile. how to they hold up in all respects (edge, handle, springs, etc.).
 
I can't speak as to Chinese Schrade knives, but I'll put an enthusiastic
plug for the Gerber Paraframe (skeletonized locking folder), which was made in China or Taiwan. $19.99 last year at Walmart. It's light, sharp and opens one handed with a flick of the thumb. It's my carry everywhere knife and gets lots of use. Has a clip and fits inside my back pants pocket, yet light enough that it doesn't drag down my dress pants.

I'm not saying that all Chinese made products are good, but the
Gerber is well designed and well made. I am more familiar with Chinese made mechanical watches. Some are junk and some are nearly as good as lower end Swiss watches. I would say that China is where Japan was in the 1950s. The junk is being weeded out and the good products are rising to the top. They are no where near the stage where 'Chinese made' is synonymous with quality the way Toyota, Sony and Nikon are.
 
Watch the world economy one day AFTER the Chinese Olympics next year.They will start to reel in their Trillions surplus globally...no more misser nice guy.....with few hometown exceptions there will be little choice in future but to buy Chinese so they will determine the quality standards for us in the longer term and not t'other way round.They are gearing up for production while the rest are virtually gearing down by comparison...Camillus, Schrade should never have been a surprise to anyone but it doesnt remove the tragedy of the situation.
I hear there are now more english speaking peoples in China than there are in the rest of the world combined...not to mention India..and a mere 200 million plus muslims in Indonesia only hours to my northern boundary.Hold on to our rocking chairs our kids and kids' kids are all going for the ride of their lives!
The quality of Schrade copy's will pale somewhat into insignificance by comparison. When you can take an absolute "mint" untouched Smith and Wesson Commemorative knife out of its pristine packet and there are multiple pin cracks it is obvious the price of the knife is not indicative of their "quality" standards.You have to care what you're producing unless money and money only is the focus.....IMHO....Hoo Roo
 
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