Man vs. Wild don't think so.

dartanyon said:
I'd have a beer with him ... and enjoy it.
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Likewise - I reckon he would have a story or two to tell.

People that think he is a plonker just dont get it... its entertainment and he happens to be an awesome athlete that knows how to live life.
 
Man Vs Wild is a television show. It is on the air for people to watch and enjoy. People rarely watch television to strictly learn new things. They watch television to combat boredom, get pure entertainment value, and even learn a few new things. Do you know how boring a survival show (or any show) would be if there was no script? A show on just survival would be the most boring show on television.... We all can agree that Bear does some crazy and unnecessary stuff but in all reality he does have a lot of things to teach us. We can all sit on our computers and couches and make fun of someone putting himself in great danger just to teach us a few survival techniques that we will probably forget! There was a show on Discovery called How Discovery Channel Saved My Life and there was a young boy who fell through the ice in a pond near his house. He remembered watching Bear jump in freezing cold water in the Arctic to show what to do to prevent hypothermia. With this in mind, Bear said to hold on tightly and stay relaxed. That is what ultimately saves the young boys life. I think that people should truly think about something before they jump on the I HATE BEAR!! Bandwagon.
 
Nikkogi said:
Man Vs Wild is a television show. It is on the air for people to watch and enjoy. People rarely watch television to strictly learn new things. They watch television to combat boredom, get pure entertainment value, and even learn a few new things. Do you know how boring a survival show (or any show) would be if there was no script? A show on just survival would be the most boring show on television.... We all can agree that Bear does some crazy and unnecessary stuff but in all reality he does have a lot of things to teach us. We can all sit on our computers and couches and make fun of someone putting himself in great danger just to teach us a few survival techniques that we will probably forget! There was a show on Discovery called How Discovery Channel Saved My Life and there was a young boy who fell through the ice in a pond near his house. He remembered watching Bear jump in freezing cold water in the Arctic to show what to do to prevent hypothermia. With this in mind, Bear said to hold on tightly and stay relaxed. That is what ultimately saves the young boys life. I think that people should truly think about something before they jump on the I HATE BEAR!! Bandwagon.
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There was a lady who just had to jump into a cold lake off a bridge to avoid getting hit by a truck. She watched a Man vs Wild episode where Bear said to remove your clothes in water to easy swimming difficulty, it saved her life. Bear is paid talent for the show. He is not his character. Harrison Ford is not Han Solo either. Why is that so hard for people to remember. He does not write the show, produce the show, he is the talent for the show.
 
Hawkings said:
I think we have all read about Richard Code's fate, but I don't recall ever hearing it having anything to do with Bears show.

The article you mention does a little Bear bashing ( Not much ) But then points out that Richard Code were a Stroud fan and that Stroud could not be blame for his death in any way.

Richard Code tried to imitate Les Stroud, not Bear.

Richard Code was not dumb enough to take Bear at face value.
But it seem he did mistake Survivor man for a "How to do" video, and not recognize it for being the entertainment show that it is.
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I agree with that. As Les mentioned in the article; "I can watch all the NHL hockey I want, that doesn't mean I can step on to the ice and play".

Both Les and Bear obviously have skills that would serve them well in a survival situation. I have respect for both of them as far as what they have accomplished in the past. My true resources however are guys like:

Kepheart
Angier
Kochanski

ect..... as well as my own experiences/common sense.

The "survival" tv shows are fun to watch from time to time. What is displayed is not all the story to be sure. I know Les meets with local survival experts on location before some shows. I'm sure Bear is meant to "put on a dramatic show". What he might do in real life is probably much different.

If someone goes off and kills themselves by trying to emulate one or the other is an idiot, and most likely is living in a fantasy world to start. JMHO of course.

I don't "hate" either. I don't watch either show to learn necessarily. I take them for what they are, TV SHOWS.:thumbup:
 
pitdog said:
I prefer Man, Woman, Wild....now if only Ruth England was as eager to naked as Bear Grylls is !:D

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That is a great show but you are right...she needs to be use here clothes in other ways that separates them from her body...LOL.
 
His show is incredibly irresponsible. He recommends danger over safety to his viewers. What kind of survival is that? In the end, he teaches people how to end up dead.
 
Los Angeles said:
His show is incredibly irresponsible. He recommends danger over safety to his viewers. What kind of survival is that? In the end, he teaches people how to end up dead.
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What........ :confused:

The irresponsibility is with the PEOPLE that might watch the show under the delusion that it's supposed to TEACH them ANYTHING. It's a TV SHOW! Is NASCAR responsible for someone going off and driving like a mad man, and then killing themselves? Is Mythbusters responsible is someone that goes and blows themselves up over an experiment they saw on the show?

Less blame on TV shows/society and more responsibility for ourselves is needed in my opinion. YMMV........
 
See now;

Man vs. Wild doesn't imply Survival as part of the title.
Man vs. Food doesn't make me think they want people to cook.

It's all entertainment.
 
Cascade_mtn's said:
I don't "hate" either. I don't watch either show to learn necessarily. I take them for what they are, TV SHOWS.:thumbup:
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Me too. I have no hate for either! I have to admit the first time I tuned in to Man Vs Wild I hoped (stress hoped) to learn something. After seeing about 15 minutes I realized it wasn't for me. Fast forward a few years later (this past week) when I tried watching it again. It was still the same crap.

If you can find yourself entertained by it and you don't take it serious then it might be for you. For me I'd rather sit back and read a book on survival (and I hate to read) or actually go do some camping (with survival training):D

Or just sit like a couch potato and watch another show!
 
Los Angeles said:
His show is incredibly irresponsible. He recommends danger over safety to his viewers. What kind of survival is that? In the end, he teaches people how to end up dead.
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You don't learn survival from watching TV ... that's what real survival courses are for :confused:
 
It's a goofy show, but it's fun and interesting.

In addition to being 21 SAS, BG climbed Everest as well as plenty of other endeavors that would break most men. A few posts in this thread essentially called BG a p-ssy. :jerkit:
 
bladerique said:
It's a goofy show, but it's fun and interesting.

In addition to being 21 SAS, BG climbed Everest as well as plenty of other endeavors that would break most men. A few posts in this thread essentially called BG a p-ssy. :jerkit:
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I'm sure he's a real tough guy [insert a jerky boys soundbite here], has some great credentials, and some great accomplishments.

But the crap he does on his show is just that, crap. Its a joke.
 
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jaymeister99 said:
I'm sure he's a real tough guy [insert a jerky boys soundbite here], has some great credentials, and some great accomplishments.

But the crap he does on his show is just that, crap. Its a joke.
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It's fun to watch though.

I've only seen about a dozen of his programs. The first M vs W I saw was a small cluster of island South of Papua New Guinea. BG jumps out of the aircraft and swims ashore to look up and see a cliff. He said it's best to gain a high vantage point to assess the situation better. He then free climbs the cliff and hikes down the other side, which was not so steep. I would have walked the perimeter of the island and hiked up to the high ground safely because I likely would have died trying to climb a f'n cliff.

But like I said, it's entertaining.
 
There is no doubting Mykel Hawke is the real deal !:thumbup:

Captain Mykel Hawke has made a career of doing the unthinkable, from fighting rebels and training UN peacekeepers in war-torn Africa to running a war clinic on the front lines and establishing a combat medic school in Azerbaijan, to doing combat search and rescue during the height of Colombia's drug war. With over 20 years of combined military and survival experience, Mykel has traveled the world learning how to operate and survive in unique situations.

After passing through grueling training and assessment as an enlisted man in the Green Berets, Mykel later earned his commission as an officer in the Special Forces. Well-schooled in in telecommunications, intelligence operations, remote medical management, combat search and rescue, guerilla warfare, counter terrorism, security tactics, Mykel has also mastered several languages, and holds a Master's Degree. He's used all his training, including black belts in aikido and judo, to survive in eight different war zones, steamy jungles, arid deserts, arctic icecaps, turbulent oceans, and gritty urban environments.

Currently, Mykel runs a survival school known as SpecOps, where he teaches civilians how to handle the ultimate survival scenarios, and also does contract training for the US government. He recently published a book, titled Mykel Hawke's Green Beret Survival Manual: Essential Strategies For Shelter and Water, Food and Fire, Tools and Medicine, Navigation and Signaling, Survival Psychology and Getting Out Alive! about the survival lessons he's learned in the world's most treacherous locations. The book is already in its second edition.
 
pitdog said:
There is no doubting Mykel Hawke is the real deal !:thumbup:

Captain Mykel Hawke has made a career of doing the unthinkable, from fighting rebels and training UN peacekeepers in war-torn Africa to running a war clinic on the front lines and establishing a combat medic school in Azerbaijan, to doing combat search and rescue during the height of Colombia's drug war. With over 20 years of combined military and survival experience, Mykel has traveled the world learning how to operate and survive in unique situations.

After passing through grueling training and assessment as an enlisted man in the Green Berets, Mykel later earned his commission as an officer in the Special Forces. Well-schooled in in telecommunications, intelligence operations, remote medical management, combat search and rescue, guerilla warfare, counter terrorism, security tactics, Mykel has also mastered several languages, and holds a Master's Degree. He's used all his training, including black belts in aikido and judo, to survive in eight different war zones, steamy jungles, arid deserts, arctic icecaps, turbulent oceans, and gritty urban environments.

Currently, Mykel runs a survival school known as SpecOps, where he teaches civilians how to handle the ultimate survival scenarios, and also does contract training for the US government. He recently published a book, titled Mykel Hawke's Green Beret Survival Manual: Essential Strategies For Shelter and Water, Food and Fire, Tools and Medicine, Navigation and Signaling, Survival Psychology and Getting Out Alive! about the survival lessons he's learned in the world's most treacherous locations. The book is already in its second edition.
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His wife is pretty hot to, and you get to se her in a bra and panties in their show, that's entertainment. :thumbup:
 
He has made it to tv here in AU
I watched a show I think last week where he spent ages making a charcoal packed straw to drink out of a puddle in case of bacteria and nasties .....
then sposedly urinates in a fresh peeled rattlesnake skin , carries it around his neck a few hours in the sun , and drinks it ... like thats not going to breed some interesting nasties in there .....
I was hoping he would get osme kind of gastro infection and deal with it while dyin in a desert but he didt ... bummer
 
pitdog said:
He was in the TA SAS, Englands equivalent of the Reserves !
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Not quite. It's much more like the US Army Special Forces reserves which are still full of very qualified soldiers capable of doing the missions with a bit of a train-up. Bear still had to qualify by passing SAS Selection with it's insane failure rate. He was far from Joe Blow, The Commo Pogue when he served.
 
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