Man-Woman-Wild.......CRAP!

I am no survival expert and I like all of these type shows. I'm assuming that these shows are not really geared toward the serious survival type but rather guys like me who have very busy lives who would like to get into the outdoors more often.

BTW I would like to see a show where they don't have fixed blade knives but rather a small slip joint or SAK.
 
amon said:
Imho, instead of bashing the show, promote the show. This show and a few others such as "Dual Survival" are about the woods, bushcrafting and survival. If you can't get behind that and support it then go back to watching "Golden Girls" and start knitting a sweater.
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Unfortunately there will always be the "Bear is an idiot" or "Les is boring" comments or the never ending "Myke Hawke jokes".

Meet the next survival reality TV star :D

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Paul 883215 said:
I am no survival expert and I like all of these type shows. I'm assuming that these shows are not really geared toward the serious survival type but rather guys like me who have very busy lives who would like to get into the outdoors more often.

BTW I would like to see a show where they don't have fixed blade knives but rather a small slip joint or SAK.
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I think you just summed it up as well as anyone could. I never really thought of it that way before. Were (generally speaking as a collective group,) quite adept at survival skills. Most people (the producers main targeted audience) would watch an episode and think wow those guys are really good.

And that is what they want, ratings. I guess I'm having one of those "why didn't I think of that" episodes about these shows. It's so obvious, no wonder we pick on them.

About the slip-joints, I think the reason they rarely carry such a knife is that they feel better prepared with a fixed blade.
They could carry a combo like most of us do though, and maybe some do. A folder and a fixed is what I beleive a lot of us take into the bush.
 
KuRUpTD said:
the never ending "Myke Hawke jokes".
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The guy did that on purpose. He' got sort of a cartoony over the top quality that is funny, but could get old if he takes himself too seriously. It's like listening to Johhny Ricoh from the movie Starship Troopers.


Hiker 1: Dude, I don't know if you should do that.
Hiker 2: Of course I should. Don't be an arse.
Hiker 1: Says who?
Hiker 2: Mike Hawke, that's who!
 
IAFF318 said:
Ok so I am going to get on the soap box here and gripe about this new "survival" show, and see if anyone else has the same views.
First off I understand the need for ratings and that the ex-special forces dude married a hot TV anchor and he is going to take her in the bush and teach her what he knows. (The first time I saw Mr. Hawke was on an episode of Bizarre Foods on the Travel channel. He was the "expert" that taught Andrew Zimmer how to get along in the bush. It took Mr. Hawke 60 min to build a fire with a flint and all the tinder you could imagine.) Sorry just remembered that.

Anyway he sets up each episode my saying that this could happen to anyone and we will be using the items we have with us. Well the episode in the swap where they had a parachute accident.....He and his wife both had huge bowie knives strapped to thier legs. Like that is a normal thing to have when you tandem jump.

Then in Africa, after they steal from a loin kill they hang the meat 4 feet off the ground, and are surprised when the hyenas take the meat in the night.

I am all for shows that educate about survival but this seems to be pure fluff. Just my thoughts.
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You mean to say you don't always have a Bowie knife strapped to ya leg, what are ya a city boy or something !!!!:D

60 mins with flint and steel eh, I think I once spent about 40 mins using a Bic, Matches and a ferro rod, that was in storm force winds and snow but still sometimes things don't go your way !:(


" Then in Africa, after they steal from a loin "

The loins are the sides between the lower ribs and pelvis, and the lower part of the back. It is often used when describing the anatomy of humans and quadrupeds (such as horses,pigs or cattle). The anatomical reference also carries over into the description of cuts of meat from some such animals, eg. tenderloin or sirloin steak.

That must have been interesting to watch !!!!:eek:
 
swamp said:
About the slip-joints, I think the reason they rarely carry such a knife is that they feel better prepared with a fixed blade.
They could carry a combo like most of us do though, and maybe some do. A folder and a fixed is what I beleive a lot of us take into the bush.
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I agree THEY are more prepared but the average joe will probably only have a folder, if that. It would be interesting to me to see them tackle some of the obstacles that they would face with a small slipjoint.

Paul
 
How about this:

Them always having a fixed blade may encourage people to at least have a decent knife on them when they go out in the wilderness. Since all these are wilderness shows, what you carry in the city has no bearing on the show.

IMO if someone thinks carrying something like an ESEE3 or Mora (I think I just threw up in my mouth) on a hike is too burdensome, I really doubt their ability to survive in the field. In fact, I doubt that they should survive if they are that weak-minded -- they might breed.

Much as I love my SAKs, I feel much better having a fixed blade as my woodworking blade. Neither of the above options are too expensive or heavy.

So maybe, just maybe the aspect of having a good blade will rub off on the guy sitting on the couch wanting to go into the woods.

Also notice that although they may have minimal, sometimes borderline equipment, they always have a capable knife? That should tell people something. If you can't carry [the thing], at least carry the tool that can make [the thing].
 
Paul 883215 said:
I agree THEY are more prepared but the average joe will probably only have a folder, if that. It would be interesting to me to see them tackle some of the obstacles that they would face with a small slipjoint.

Paul
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Good point that would be more realistic for sure. :thumbup:
 
Cpl Punishment said:
How about this:

Them always having a fixed blade may encourage people to at least have a decent knife on them when they go out in the wilderness. Since all these are wilderness shows, what you carry in the city has no bearing on the show.

IMO if someone thinks carrying something like an ESEE3 or Mora (I think I just threw up in my mouth) on a hike is too burdensome, I really doubt their ability to survive in the field. In fact, I doubt that they should survive if they are that weak-minded -- they might breed.

Much as I love my SAKs, I feel much better having a fixed blade as my woodworking blade. Neither of the above options are too expensive or heavy.

So maybe, just maybe the aspect of having a good blade will rub off on the guy sitting on the couch wanting to go into the woods.

Also notice that although they may have minimal, sometimes borderline equipment, they always have a capable knife? That should tell people something. If you can't carry [the thing], at least carry the tool that can make [the thing].
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Great point too.:thumbup:
 
Cpl Punishment said:
How about this:

Them always having a fixed blade may encourage people to at least have a decent knife on them when they go out in the wilderness. Since all these are wilderness shows, what you carry in the city has no bearing on the show.

IMO if someone thinks carrying something like an ESEE3 or Mora (I think I just threw up in my mouth) on a hike is too burdensome, I really doubt their ability to survive in the field. In fact, I doubt that they should survive if they are that weak-minded -- they might breed.

Much as I love my SAKs, I feel much better having a fixed blade as my woodworking blade. Neither of the above options are too expensive or heavy.

So maybe, just maybe the aspect of having a good blade will rub off on the guy sitting on the couch wanting to go into the woods.

Also notice that although they may have minimal, sometimes borderline equipment, they always have a capable knife? That should tell people something. If you can't carry [the thing], at least carry the tool that can make [the thing].
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Do you really think that the average guy even knows what a Mora or an
ESEE3 is, much less carry one? I don't think a single one of my friends even have a fixed blade knife that isnt a kitchen knife.

Paul
 
My personal take is that having the average person try to survive with just a slip joint knife — or even a folder — would be dooming them to failure. The average person who carries a slippie or a folder generally doesn't use it for much more than opening their mail. Say, why not take it a step further and allow them no knife at all? They would have to learn to improvise — perhaps learn to knap flint on the spot. Unfortunately, only we few here on the boards would watch such a show; it would be exceedingly boring to the average person.

No, I think that them having at least a fixed blade is the best idea, and if the average person sees how a fixed blade is used in that situation, they might begin to get a clue about how to survive with a slippie . . . maybe.

I really, really like Cpl.'s line "If you can't carry [the thing], at least carry the tool that can make [the thing]." Isn't that what it's all about? Making the thing that allows you to survive?
 
Paul 883215 said:
Do you really think that the average guy even knows what a Mora or an
ESEE3 is, much less carry one? I don't think a single one of my friends even have a fixed blade knife that isnt a kitchen knife.

Paul
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No, which is my point.

They keep watching these shows, and hopefully, when they go for their safari in the local wilderness they'll have the gears in their head squeaking and smoking saying "Hey! I want a knife like [XXX] has when I go out!"

It may be Cody's Mora, Dave's Pathfinder, Les's Buck 119, Bear's Bear Grylls knife, Ray Mears' Woodlore, or one of the many CS offerings from Myke Hawke's show. All of which are superior to a slipjoint for survival woodworking.
 
Not that I, and others here, couldn't survive with a SAK, but who would actually watch a show like that?
 
dawsonbob said:
Not that I, and others here, couldn't survive with a SAK, but who would actually watch a show like that?
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Exactly, when it comes to getting viewers everything has to be over the top nowdays. people don't want to see the ordinary.

Take a post apocolyptic reality show where ya have an ordinary Joe Blow being all sensible and driving round very slowly in a Smart car looking for provisions or more sensible yet riding round on a push bike.

And then ya have another series where a crazy Dave Canterbury type guy is surviving the same disaster and blasting around in a camo Hummer driving through buildings instead of around them and blasting store windows out with an Uzi.

Which one would generate the most viewing figures regardless of how stupid it is !!!!:D


Ps. Just waiting to hear back from the Discovery channel about the series above !:thumbup:
 
pitdog said:
Exactly, when it comes to getting viewers everything has to be over the top nowdays. people don't want to see the ordinary.

Take a post apocolyptic reality show where ya have an ordinary Joe Blow being all sensible and driving round very slowly in a Smart car looking for provisions or more sensible yet riding round on a push bike.

And then ya have another series where a crazy Dave Canterbury type guy is surviving the same disaster and blasting around in a camo Hummer driving through buildings instead of around them and blasting store windows out with an Uzi.

Which one would generate the most viewing figures regardless of how stupid it is !!!!:D


Ps. Just waiting to hear back from the Discovery channel about the series above !:thumbup:
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Bingo. Action wins every time.
 
Sorry crap is crap, I love fishing but there are a lot of crappy fishing shows out there I will not watch. just cuz something is about an interest of mine doesn't mean I can or will watch it.


amon said:
Imho, instead of bashing the show, promote the show. This show and a few others such as "Dual Survival" are about the woods, bushcrafting and survival. If you can't get behind that and support it then go back to watching "Golden Girls" and start knitting a sweater.
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Jake...its called Surviv"faux"....best to leave it alone...anything that needs cash, guns or lawyers to survive just isn't TV friendly. :))
 
Pure entertainment, prime time show, with one goal in mind....ADVERTISING DOLLARS plain & simple. The network could not give two craps about it being spot on with accurate survival information. Its one guy and his wife having some skills and opinions.

Turn it off if it bugs you.

I find it entertaining enough and wait for the day Myke may freak on his hot wife for something she does or fails to do.:D
 
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