Manix and Strider SNG Why?

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Sebenza4ever

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Both are about the same size
Both are FLAT GROUND S30V
Both have BLACK G10 SCALES
Both with pocket clip

The Manix is a lockback
The SNG is a Framelock

Both Great Brand names that keep their value.

One is three times the price of the other.

WHY?


Please try to answer the question with out emotions. Lets forget about Spyderco and Strider. IS the SNG stronger than the Manix? Does it look better? Are the materials used superiour?

What?
 
Sebenza4ever said:
Both are about the same size
Both are FLAT GROUND S30V
Both have BLACK G10 SCALES
Both with pocket clip

The Manix is a lockback
The SNG is a Framelock

Both Great Brand names that keep their value.

One is three times the price of the other.

WHY?


Please try to answer the question with out emotions. Lets forget about Spyderco and Strider. IS the SNG stronger than the Manix? Does it look better? Are the materials used superiour?

What?
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The SNG is lighter the Manix. The Manix's front-lock, in my opinion, is stronger than the SNG's framelock. However, the Manix's pivot is significantly smaller than the SNG's, which I believe would make it weaker. The Manix uses dual, custom G10 scales, backed by dual skeletonized steel liners. the SNG uses one unlined G10 scale and one Titanium locking scale. In the grip category, I'd have to say the Manix wins, for my hands at least.

The Manix's blade is a thick, flat-ground, satin finished S30V with Spyderco's HT. The SNG is a thick, flat-ground, bead-blast finished S30V with Paul Bos's custom Strider HT. The Manix's blade is a tad bit thicker, but the SNG's blade may be a tad bit harder. The pocket clip on the SNG is stronger, but the Manix's clip can be positioned for tip-up, tip-down, and right or left hand carry.

It's all a trade off as far as I see it. If you want a stronger lock, the Manix is your knife. If you want a lighter knife with a stronger pivot, The SNG is for you. If you like tiger stripes on your blade, get the SNG. If you want a better grip, get the Manix. It all depends on what you want in a knife.

Both are great products! :cool:
 
The knives are priced at the levels the market will support, don't look to price for performance, it is more influenced by popularity and marketing. Some of the best performance in cutlery is little known and inexpensive.

-Cliff
 
HKSIG45
Comparison is an excellent source of information. No trolling here.
I am not aware of any debate about these folders. I already said that these are both great companies. Spyderco is my favourite but not taking away anything from Strider.


3Guardsmen:
Great information there that I didn’t know. Thanks.


Cliff Stamp:
Good point.
 
Sebenza4ever said:
I am not aware of any debate about these folders.
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There have been a bunch of them recently like :

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340280

The search feature is quite informative when it decides to work, look for "manix sng" or similar.

3Guardsmen said:
However, the Manix's pivot is significantly smaller than the SNG's, which I believe would make it weaker.
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Get Strider to state that the SnG would hold up better than the Chinook II, I recently worked the piviot over on, the Manix has the same construction.

In fact get them to state it would even do as well.

-Cliff
 
There is a certain thrill some get in starting a "versus" thread, regardless how beaten to death the subject is, that they know will attract from out of the woodwork loyalists from each camp.
 
I wouldn't call me a 'loyalist' just yet but I have recently acquired both a Chinook and Manix from Spyderco. I have no intention of doing anything remotely similar to my knives that were done in the tests that Cliff did on them but in just the few days I've owned each I can just assure you that these are two of the toughest folders ever made. No question about that in my mind. These are massive strong knives that you can bet your life on. I'm sure the Stirder is also. You just pay more to get it.

I would say that for someone just wanting a daily beater than will most likely take anything you dish out that either of these big brutes from Spyderco fit the bill. My Manix is now my new constant companion. Great knife. Eric Glesser should be proud.
 
That tiger striping is the greatest innovation since the wheel, well worth the extra $200 clams.

Jes kidding, I'd love to own a Strider but I do think it's a bit overpriced. They do seem to be rugged no nonsense tools but comparing them to a Porsche 911 is ridiculous. I'd say closer to a Land Rover while the Manix is an butt kicking Jeep!
 
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There is a certain thrill some get in starting a "versus" thread, regardless how beaten to death the subject is, that they know will attract from out of the woodwork loyalists from each camp.

It is amazing how some people are scared of debate. They call it flamewar. The best information we get (the not so knowledgable members) came from debates or what u call "versus" threads"

Why dont u go to sleep and leave such threads alone then? No one is forcing you to read these thresds , let alone comment.

Its a free country body.
 
The Manix while still an awesome knife, is popped off a factory line by the thousands. Striders are semi custom (Or midtech) That would cause a price difference in and of itself. You could also ask why the sebbie costs 3 times as much, same thing.
 
If you ca n mass produce a knife with the quality of the Manix, Than thats even better. I cant see that working against you.
 
I have a manix, and when I make the jump to a higher up knife, you can bet your ass i'm more tempted to buy an SmF then a Sebeza.

Its interesting that you say the SNG is lighter? How about an SmF compared to the manix? I know its a little bigger, but in terms of durability?
 
The frame on the Strider's frame/liner lock is made of a large piece of Titanium. You can't compare one lock VS another simply on the design alone. A titanium liner lock of any significant thickness is nearly impossible to break with ones own bare hands, and is stronger than many other non-liner locking folders.
Having said this; Striders are built very tough, but their fit, finish, and value are under par for the price range in my experience.
I would rather have a Furhman knife than a Strider any day - saving $100 in the process.

WYK
 
WYK said:
You can't compare one lock VS another simply on the design alone.
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Sure you can, some designs have inherent weaknesses.

A titanium liner lock of any significant thickness is nearly impossible to break with ones own bare hands
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Hardly, I have done it.

-Cliff
 
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