Martial Arts question

MrCoffee

MrCoffee

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Hey everyone,

I was wondering if anyone could give me some background on different styles of MA, and specifically Aikido in comparision to other styles. I am truly clueless about this, so I figured I would toss the question out to you all.

Thanks!
MrC

Edit: Jeff I am hoping you pipe in on this one :)
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aikido -One of many sources for the background. Repeat for other styles.

As for a comparison to other styles there are many to be made, so specify your backing intention for wanting this information and maybe I can come up with an answer better suited to your question.
I have practiced various styles of M. A. including Tae Kwon Do, Krav Maga, Kickboxing, Kendo, Judo and Boxing, and what ever new training I am forced to adapt to when sparring with different partners.
I am no expert in any of these fields of practice, nor am I concerned with titles or sport fighting.
“ no macho bullsh!t going on, just answering the question.”
 
I'll pipe in. Run if you have the chance to and forget about studying all the "art forms." I took Tae Kwon Do for a while. Enjoyed the sparring. I'm not a big fan of "martial arts" although I do enjoy hitting a heavy bag. Again, if you have the chance, run. I've seen beatings that could have been prevented if someone would have just not worried about their mother being called a whore and walked away. I also got to witness a "black belt" get his ass literally kicked out of a bar by a redneck that didn't know who Bruce Lee was. Fighting, for the most part, is not worth it. With that said, if you have to fight then damn sure disable your attacker with any and all means possible. There is no such thing as dirty fighting. And that is my take on all this fighting stuff.
 
"if you have to fight then damn sure disable your attacker with any and all means possible. There is no such thing as dirty fighting. And that is my take on all this fighting stuff. "

I agree fully with that.
Fighting is life or death, their is no middle ground.
 
R.A.T. said:
I'll pipe in. Run if you have the chance to and forget about studying all the "art forms." I took Tae Kwon Do for a while. Enjoyed the sparring. I'm not a big fan of "martial arts" although I do enjoy hitting a heavy bag. Again, if you have the chance, run. I've seen beatings that could have been prevented if someone would have just not worried about their mother being called a whore and walked away. I also got to witness a "black belt" get his ass literally kicked out of a bar by a redneck that didn't know who Bruce Lee was. Fighting, for the most part, is not worth it. With that said, if you have to fight then damn sure disable your attacker with any and all means possible. There is no such thing as dirty fighting. And that is my take on all this fighting stuff.
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Ok, I guess I wasn't clear about my intentions. I alway walk/run away from a fight unless I have no choice (i.e. cant get away or a family member is in danger of harm). Not what I was talking about. I looked up Aikido on the web, and I am trying to understand the style verses other I have seen and I can't quite picture it. But two of my co worker both study it (different schools) and I was talking to one about fitness, and different styles of Martial Arts. His Dojo is offering a beginners class, and he offered to pay for it for me, if I would like to give it a try. 16 weeks of free training. And I was just wondering what I might expect for styles, etc.

Oh and FYI, I trust the guy offering, it won't be a "kick the crap out of the newbie" class or anything like that.
 
A Man's Greatest Weapon is his Mind,His Worst Enemy is his Mouth............;)
 
IMO, never turn down free training. I'm not saying that martial arts training is useless but I am saying it's one of those things you can just about go through your whole life and not use. For real world fight training, it may well suit you better to take that time you would spend in the dojo and get on a good exercise program, hit a heavy bag, spar with some partners, etc.

Tae Kwon Do is a lot of leg work. Aikido, I think, is more of a re-direction of force. Segal makes it look really cool in the movies!
 
If your goal is nice looking MA then yes, Karate and Aikido are great for that, but If you are looking for a fast effective reality based MA, there are way better systems for that. It really comes down to what you want to get from MA.
 
MrCoffee said:
I looked up Aikido on the web, and I am trying to understand the style verses other I have seen and I can't quite picture it. But two of my co worker both study it (different schools) and I was talking to one about fitness, and different styles of Martial Arts. His Dojo is offering a beginners class, and he offered to pay for it for me, if I would like to give it a try. 16 weeks of free training. And I was just wondering what I might expect for styles, etc.

Oh and FYI, I trust the guy offering, it won't be a "kick the crap out of the newbie" class or anything like that.
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That is a deal you can not pass up.......

I took Tae Kwon Do for years when I was younger and really enjoyed it.

Personally, I don't think it is the particular style of Martial Art you study as much as it is the attitude of the Instructor, and the type of school he/she runs.

Check out various schools and instructors until you find one that "fits you."

Just my opinion......take it for what you paid for it:D

Best of luck in your search:):thumbup:
 
Tomso said:
If your goal is nice looking MA then yes, Karate and Aikido are great for that, but If you are looking for a fast effective reality based MA, there are way better systems for that. It really comes down to what you want to get from MA.
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IMO get in there!!:thumbup: that is a great deal and you may find that you really enjoy it.
 
Cuts said:
That is a deal you can not pass up.......

I took Tae Kwon Do for years when I was younger and really enjoyed it.

Personally, I don't think it is the particular style of Martial Art you study as much as it is the attitude of the Instructor, and the type of school he/she runs.

Check out various schools and instructors until you find one that "fits you."

Just my opinion......take it for what you paid for it:D

Best of luck in your search:):thumbup:
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Fro what I can recall from my distant dealings with Akido its principles use internal strength and circular dynamics to produce throws locks pins etc similar to Jujitsu but its main aim is to remain standing while your opponent goes down - there is little if any ground work.

It also doesn’t teach punching and kicking techniques, it is however very graceful and in the right hands pretty impressive I’ve seem some very small practitioners deal with some seriously large ones It also has some mean locks pressure point attacks, there is some emphasis in dealing with multiple opponents and armed assailants - it is however traditional in its approach - I assume it was to be used to take out heavily armed and armoured Samurai warriors because some of the techniques assume limited movement of the opponent.

As a modern fighting art its like a lot of traditional martial arts it does not teach you how to take a hit
If that’s what you want you want to try a MMA or something like krav maga
 
Aikido has basically two 'types' or approaches. One emphasizes fighting and the other puts more emphasis on philosophy and gathering one's "ki" (or "chi' as the Chinese would say). Both are based on circular movements with some grappling, and train for multiple opponents. If you want to get a sense for what it looks like, watch Segal's "Above the Law" - the first few minutes. I believe he studied the 'fighting' approach, although I'm not sure. For the record, Ueshiba, the founder, could fight.

More than likely, the schools you're talkng about emphasize the philosophical approach - they "project their ki" and do "unbendable arm" stuff - and this is where Aikido picked up a sort of 'mystical' aura that attracts some students. Nothing wrong with it, until you bump into the guy in the bar with a great neural system, hostile intent and lots of experience fighting. Then "run" is good advice - assuming you made the mistake to go into a place like that in the first place and can get out.
 
It also doesn’t teach punching and kicking techniques, it is however very graceful and in the right hands pretty impressive I’ve seem some very small practitioners deal with some seriously large ones It also has some mean locks pressure point attacks, there is some emphasis in dealing with multiple opponents and armed assailants - it is however traditional in its approach - I assume it was to be used to take out heavily armed and armoured Samurai warriors because some of the techniques assume limited movement of the opponent.
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Nah, Aikido was 'conceptualized' in the 1940's by its founder Morihei Ueshiba, who distilled it from the Ju Jitsu that he was taught.

There is punching and kicking and other nasty bone-breaking moves, but you need to be far along in black belts to even be judged "worthy" of being taught these. -Don't worry, they are similar to typical strikes practiced by other Japanese MAs.

What I find boring about Aikido is that it has turned into a "philisophy" rather than a MA and is quite boring for anyone who is experienced in other full contact MAs.

The best thing about Aikido for beginners, is that it teaches you how to fall and roll properly so you don't get injured. Also helps with footwork and understanding balance -both yours and your opponent's. This makes a very good foundation upon to base other more practical MAs.
 
I think it all goes right back to.......you will get out of it what you put into it............and it really does not matter what style you go with.....

Any practitioner of any style can give you dozens of of reasons of why you should study their style, and not others....................in the end it comes down to what you are willing to invest into the particular style you choose.......

Just make sure that whichever style you decide on, there is an instructor teaching that you are willing to learn, and is worth learning from...
 
45ACP is better than 9MM. Glocks are better than 1911s. If anyone doesn't like those facts, then we'll fight about it.
 
R.A.T. said:
45ACP is better than 9MM. Glocks are better than 1911s. If anyone doesn't like those facts, then we'll fight about it.
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LOL:D You made my point:thumbup:








........but, Ummmmm, I'm still going with the Glock




;)
 
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