Massive Regret

Strider will make it right. Yes, it's a hassle to return it, but they stand behind each and every knife. They'll do the fix quickly, also. I have as yet to hear about a bad CRK let out of the shop, however. You can almost rest assured any CRK knife wll appear at your home in perfect condition, as it should be. It's the high expectations that CRK products create when owning some and then contrasted to when you buy knives from other makers.
 
Scott Dog said:
Striders don't come in left hand versions. I asked at their booth at a knife show if I could even order a specially made lefty and the response I got wasn't very encouraging. Plus I'm too used to Sebenzas and the Sebbies fit my lifestyle more versus the more militaristic Strider. So I'll just sit on the sudelines for this one.
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"ANY" and I Do Mean ANY, custom, or handmaker, would be able to make a lefty, with no trouble. Just drill the screw holes on the other side. Hard to shut down a production line to make changes. Factorys don't work that way. Getting the idea that these mabe might "not" be hand made knives after all? YOU THINK!!!!!!! Why do you guys figure that they keep having the same problems. One at a time makes it easy to fix the faults. Rarely will the same defect happen twice. On production knives however, it is a given, until some one stops the production, and fixes the problem. Mega expensive. Any one wondering why these knives cost so much. A production knife, lots of defects, and custom prices. Wake up folks. Hint, the Buck version is better quility. But it's a factory knife. Yea! and? The orig. is what again?
 
Boink said:
It's the high expectations that CRK products create when owning some and then contrasted to when you buy knives from other makers.
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Poppycock! If you paid what Strider ask for a knife and its not perfect then its just not good enough, plain and simple. To say peoples expectations are set too high because CRK put out a product that someone actually took the time to check is perfect, is, well, absurd. It fails to amaze me that people will put up with shoddy workmanship (Ha! if you can call it that) at all. The damned things should be free if they are that bad that they need to go straight back to the maker. And why people continue to defend them is incredible. Its like the saying, 'Soul is what you say a car has when its broken down and you don't want to call it a piece of junk'

$300 is a lot of money to a lot of people for a knife that isnt right. I think Strider has found that making a folder is a damned sight harder than grinding a bar of steel and wrapping the handle with string. They should stick to what they know and leave the real craftsmen to do the folders.
 
They might not fix it.
They didn't fix mine.

I had a GB with a blade that was off center and sent it back TWICE.
TWICE it came back to me in the exact same condition. The second
time I had spoken to M.Strider himself and he had me direct it to his
attention and that STILL didn't help. I bitched on the Strider forum.
(Big mistake that was.) M. finally said to send it back for a refund
to save face, but by then I'd already gotten too aggrivated and had
traded it for a custom.

The high percentage of NEW knives that need repaired & replaced must be built into the price.

I wouldn't pay 50% more for a tire that had a 20% chance of having a hole in it when it arrived even if they DID guarantee to fix it if I ever had a blowout.

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Uhh, for me , the idea of owning a knife that costs over three hundred bucks was absurd. But, I went to the Blade show in atlanta and I actually looked at and held several very expensive knives. The sebenza was perfect. Every sebenza I saw was perfect (at least initial impression , I didn't pull out a loop or anything) but the Strider folders I saw weren't. The weren't bad but they weren't as nice as the price claims they are.

If I can rig up some way of getting around the guilt of paying that kind of money for a knife , I certainly will buy myself a small sebbie.
 
Some people buy knives because they look pretty with perfect "fit and finish" and "perfectly centered blades." Unfortunately, Striders aren't made to look pretty. My Sebenza sits in the dresser, while my Strider opens anything from locked file cabinets to soft fluffy pillows. Yeah, the blade has some play, a little rust, and banged up scales, but no way in hell will I hesitate to hand it to a fellow officer to get the job done. I still like my Sebenza, but its comparing apples and oranges. One's tactical and the other is, well... not.
 
nife said:
Some people buy knives because they look pretty with perfect "fit and finish" and "perfectly centered blades." Unfortunately, Striders aren't made to look pretty. My Sebenza sits in the dresser, while my Strider opens anything from locked file cabinets to soft fluffy pillows. Yeah, the blade has some play, a little rust, and banged up scales, but no way in hell will I hesitate to hand it to a fellow officer to get the job done. I still like my Sebenza, but its comparing apples and oranges. One's tactical and the other is, well... not.
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And how exactly does the implied 'Tactical-ness' make it a superior knife, considering the F&F is crap and the blade wobbles?
 
Temper said:
And how exactly does the implied 'Tactical-ness' make it a superior knife, considering the F&F is crap and the blade wobbles?
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O.K., first, I was not implying that superiority is rated by its "tactical-ness". Moreover, I wasn't even talking about superiority. I just wanted to illustrate the "apples and oranges" argument, exactly. I am the owner of both CRK and Strider knives. I like them both. For argument sake, lets say the blade was off-center and the F&F was crap. Would I "hesitate" or "worry" if I had to pry something open if all I had was my Strider... nope. Do I care if it looks ugly as hell, even though it's been through hell and back, with some scratches on the blade from puncturing a gas tank to reveal contraband... I don't think so. I guess that's part of the "hype," to make the ugly look beautiful.
 
Yeah, I think the "apples and oranges" comment is appropriate. I have CRKs and Striders and love 'em all. Sometimes a CRK feels right for a certain task, sometimes a Strider. I frequently wind up carrying both. ;)
 
OK, now I get it and agree with your comment although the F&F would still prevent me from buying one.
 
At the end of the day ,when you are paying top dollar, the quality and finish should be second to none.
I am in Federal Law enforcement here in Australia, and there is not a chance i would carry the Strider,when out in the field.
Comparing 'apples to orange' as suggested is bullshit.
CRK are like exotic cars ,made to look good and perform at the highest level.
Unfortunately Striders are not!
Simple as that..anyway i am donating the Strider to the local scouts club.
Thanks Chris and Anne for making it possible.
 
nife have to disagree with you, a "tactical" knife should have even higher requirments for lockup and lack of wobble. After all the very point of a "tactical" knife is to inspire confidence and withstand abuse and still not fail or show symptoms of failure.

From an engineering standpoint balde wobble probably amplifies stress against the knife when used because of unequal force distribution.

It sounds to me more like an accident waiting to happen.
 
I own both a small sebbie and the Strider PT (among other) and am very happy with both. Yes, the blade of the PT isn't smack in the middle when closed but that hasn't stopped me using it hard and it doesn't stop me from looking upon it as something I could use to tunnel myself out of prison. It is a mighty fierce knife for its size. The small sebbie has been with me quite a while now and I love it to bits. They actually get along quite well and don't mind being rotated as EDC :p

Dont get me wrong, if there is something functionally wrong with your PT, send it back and get it fixed. It has been said before, but it is very hard trying to compare them, because they don't claim or aim to be the same thing.

Cheers to all,

Lennart
 
DaveH said:
nife have to disagree with you, a "tactical" knife should have even higher requirments for lockup and lack of wobble. After all the very point of a "tactical" knife is to inspire confidence and withstand abuse and still not fail or show symptoms of failure.

From an engineering standpoint balde wobble probably amplifies stress against the knife when used because of unequal force distribution.

It sounds to me more like an accident waiting to happen.
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I see your point. There's a reason why these discussions on "CRK vs. Strider" will live forever. Hell, I just buy both brands.
 
kostak said:
Comparing 'apples to orange' as suggested is bullshit.
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Nothing like keeping the conversation civil, huh? :rolleyes: You don't have to agree with my opinion, of course, but let's try not to roll in the mud when dissenting, shall we? Otherwise I'll ask a mod to move this to W&C.
 
I ordered a $250 PT from Plaza Cutlery and it was perfect in every way. Smooth opening and closing, perfect fit and finish, no blade play in any direction, good lockup. Not a single complaint.

As far as customer service, I think it is also ridiculous that Strider seems to basically put every knife they make into the market and if someone decides they're unhappy with it, THEN they'll fix it and get rave reviews for the best customer service around. I'd rather see a company ship the best product they can make right off the get-go, personally.

So, anyway, my PT is perfect and maybe I just got lucky. I think it's worth sending it in for repair or replacement and when you get it back put it online to sell and get your money back out of it.

I've heard good things about Strider's customer service, although it shouldn't be necessary for new knives, IMO. I had a similar problem with Spyderco's customer service, which is legendary on Bladeforums. Had a Dodo with a bad lock, sent it in, a month later it came back with the same bad lock, Sal said he'd handle it personally and that he picked the best one off the line, came back to me a month later, still a bad lock and this was supposedly a completely different knife. So, I guess every company has some slip through the cracks.
 
Maybe Strider can make a special product line with perfect fit and finish and just charge more for it. ;)

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I own several of both makers products, and like Dave said, this should not have left a dealer whatsoever. I have NEVER had a problem with Strider knives fit and finish, they have always been top quality with me. Same goes with CRK.

I know this has left a bad taste in your mouth, very underrstandable, but if you have the ability to take photos, I would send them off to Strider, and see what course of action can happen since shipping it off can be a real hinderance.
 
You know, I was tempted by Strider before I bought my Sebenza, but I didn't go with them for a few reasons. Firstly, I couldn't find a Strider to handle, and I never buy a knife I haven't handled. Secondly, I haven't heard the best things about the overall quality of the product. Unlike CRK, I've heard a lot about how Strider is more about making an overproduced knife that people percieve as a superknife. The 'pocket crowbar' term was thrown around a lot. When I start to hear more about proplems, hype and fanboy chatter I start to doubt the product.

Now that being said, I've never actually handled a Strider so I could be 100% full of it.
 
Move it to W&C. This thread is bullshit. I had hoped it wouldn't be and reported it several times in hopes of heading it off, but it stinks of crap. Sure, your going to donate your expensive knife to scouting. Right. Did you even buy one or is this a misguided attempt to praise CRK?

A knife you are worried about using due to QC and you are going to give it to kids to play with. Nice.
 
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