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Masters of defense

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by roughneckrob, Feb 16, 2011.

  1. roughneckrob

    roughneckrob

    Jul 3, 2009
    Hey guys, I have been considering a new tactical blade. while I was at a local gun shop I seen these Masters of Defence knives. I have never heard of them but judging by the price and the materials from which they are made they seen to be of the highest quality. Does anyone have any experience with these knives? If so could you give me the details of your opinions? Thanks
     
  2. knivesandguns

    knivesandguns

    Mar 6, 2008
    I see them as something like a Wilson Tactical, Tops, 5.11, Fox, and Bladetech type of manufacturer.
     
  3. ohmyheckinslc

    ohmyheckinslc Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 4, 2005
    I've got 2-3 MODs. They were a very decent company, then they were bought by blackhawk, IIRC. It looks like their materials, particularly their blade steel choices, have gone downhill. Mod used to rely heavily on 154CM with cryo treatment, but Blackhawk redesigned several popular MODs with AUS8 instead, which may be a decent steel, but it definitely isn't on the level of 154CM in my experience. Just my $0.02.
     
  4. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Last I knew they were acquired by BLACKHAWK! and they shipped it all overseas. Fit, finish, materials, and workmanship went down the tubes. :eek:
     
  5. roughneckrob

    roughneckrob

    Jul 3, 2009
    Oh ok, ill stick with my Emersons in that case....thanks for the onfo.
     
  6. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
    They once were on par with Microtech.
     
  7. beluga

    beluga

    Nov 17, 2001
    I had one MOD, but I found the action to be gritty. When I opened the knife, it felt like there was sand in the pivot area. IMHO, Microtech is still the better one.
     
  8. Artfully Martial

    Artfully Martial

    Jun 8, 2005
    I presume these were designed for self defense, but in my opinion, their designs are more to look cool than to assist in SD.
     
  9. marcinek

    marcinek

    Jan 9, 2007
    Are you merely adept at self-defense, or are you a Master?

    MOD knives are for Masters of Defense only. Any one else shouldn't even touch them. They are that tacti-awesome.
     
  10. Artfully Martial

    Artfully Martial

    Jun 8, 2005
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    Touché sir. Up until now I had not realized the truth that my skill was limiting the capabilities of the knife, not the other way around.

    I will train 6 hours a day until I obtain the skills necessary for its use...
     
  11. marcinek

    marcinek

    Jan 9, 2007
    As well you should, Sir! Calling them "Masters of Defense" is not some marketing gimmick to suck in the mall ninjas! No siree Bob! Those MODs are for Masters of Defense only. They are not toys.

    Just like Dark Ops. "Dark" operators only. Rigorously-trained super-secret high-speed killing machines only!
     
  12. Artfully Martial

    Artfully Martial

    Jun 8, 2005
    Legend has it that Dark Ops knives instinctively feel weakness and attempt to devour it. In the wrong hands, a Dark Ops knife is so deadly that it can literally turn on its unworthy user and slumber, for centuries if need be, awaiting its true master...

    [​IMG]

    Ok, that's probably enough fun...we should let the OP get back to researching the knives.

    And for what it's worth, I've never handled a MOD knife, so for all I know it could be epic.
     
  13. marcinek

    marcinek

    Jan 9, 2007
    The green smoke is what seeks out and devours weakness....

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  14. strongondefense1911

    strongondefense1911

    120
    Jun 29, 2010
    MOD knives were origially only designed by people who taught close quarter combat. Some of the designers were Massad Ayoob, Michael Janich, Duane Dieter ect. Thats why they were called Masters of Defense.
     
  15. DNK

    DNK

    143
    Nov 5, 2010
    WTF IS that?! Or, should I say WTF is THAT?! Is that a blade catcher or a bottle opener at the base? Why is it serrated in so many places? This knife is a stroke of genius, the mere pictures have caused fear and confusion.
     
  16. marcinek

    marcinek

    Jan 9, 2007
    Exactly what I'm saying!
     
  17. Artfully Martial

    Artfully Martial

    Jun 8, 2005
    That's an impressive lineup, but I just don't see it. But that's one humble CQC guy's opinion versus the big names, so I suppose I'd take their authority over my own.
     
  18. ohmyheckinslc

    ohmyheckinslc Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 4, 2005
    I'm hurt that you guys would compare dark ops to the "old" MOD. I maintain that they were a good company, until their downfall. I haven't seen too much good said about D.O. on day I'll have to pick one up and see how good it is for covertly deanimating envelopes, and packages, and maybe the odd zip tie.
     
  19. Dr Heelhook

    Dr Heelhook

    Jul 24, 2007
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  20. Artfully Martial

    Artfully Martial

    Jun 8, 2005
    hey, we're just joking. I've heard good things about the build quality, my only assertion was that, from my point of view of the characteristics that make a knife an SD or, heaven forbid, a "fighting knife," the MODs I've seen don't have it.

    But again, maybe I missed something. Those are some talented people behind it. All of my knife training is old school anyway.
     

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