Masters of the Blade

Though it might not be up to me to do so, I would like to welcome Mr. Worden to his forum. I mean, after all the videos and some email correspondence some time ago, I kinda feel almost as if i knew the man, and definitely him being on the "dear" sode of all my acquaintances.
I am so sorry to hear about the problems you had (hey I went through the divorce thing myself...well, guess there is nothing one can say to make it any less painful), but I hope that the work on you book (which I cannot wait to get my hands on...is it done yet? Is it done yet?...) helped to overcome the trouble. To tell you the truth, I always wondered how come that people like JAk and Datu never got around to do a book (Is it done yet?), and the one that Mr. Keating put out was not what I had in mind. So, i really hope that after all the great videos, the book from Mr. Worden (Is it done yet?), will finally hit it on the spot.
My best wishes to you in your future life sir. Just keep rockin and keep 'em coming!
 
Thanks Hetman,
Really I stop by from time to time to see what is happening on the open end of Bladeforums. For the most part I stay to busy to add much in the form of conversation.
Regarding the book, I guess we all have our medium and for what ever reason I have always gravitated towards video productions.

The one book I have completed on the Travel Wrench is in it's 3rd printing and has received some solid reviews. I understand I am a bit behind the curve with producing my own book on 'da knipe,,,, but I believe when it is completed it will stand on its own, I guess the real issue is where do I stop with the written word, lot's of books today are all pictures and I am not interested in following that venue with my efforts.

That being said patience is all I can ask you for...

Jim and I spent quite a few years learning how to write by making our own mistakes in print so everyone could read 'em.

Really Full Contact, Fighting Knives, IKF, and some of the other periodicals are and were stepping stones. Positive ones for the most part, but writing has always be a critical challenge for both Jim and I, we're critical of ourselves and every article/video is a challenge.

I nor Jim wish to let anyone down and although it may not seem like it, we respect and value the opinion of those who put the money down for our products.

I'll be rolling into Bedford Indiana later this month and instructing knife during the Friday evening session.
The information is posted over on Practical Tactical ....

Anyway, keep the blade sharp and the mind clear,,

Respectfully, Kelly S. Worden
 
Dear Kelly:

Thanks for the kind words, brother. It continues to be a great honor and pleasure to be your friend and to have you in my corner.

Stay safe,

Mike
 
Very cool discussions here. FMA is a very dynamic art which has evolved in so many ways through colonial times and still continue evolving in modern times by many stalented, skilled and dynamic open-minded practitioners. Theres a few non-filipino practioners of FMA that help this art stay dynamic. Mr. Janich, Mr. Worden and the Dog Bros. are among those people. As a FMA practitioner myself, I see these guys belong to the FMA Hall of Famers. They have done a lot to propagate this art. And what I really respect about these guys is they always give credits to their source but yet blend it with their own expression of the art.:thumbup: ....and that what makes it a dynamic art.
 
EdgeLurker said:
Theres a few non-filipino practioners of FMA that help this art stay dynamic.[/B]:thumbup: ....and that what makes it a dynamic art.
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I've seen a lot of Pinoy FMA practitioners who keep this art very dynamic, especially since those guys in the PI actually practice what they have found works in real situations. Not like here in the states. Can you say that?
 
Hello Colt6731,

Not looking for pats on the back, never have,,, I believe Filipino or not if the art is shared in a positive manner, what else are you asking.... should we run out and knife someone to appease the Forum critics? I have faced more than one blade in my life, so have many of the American's who have trained with me to develop technical skill, I don't like the term students,, I train Men and Women to assist in their personal survival because they trust my approach, simple as that!

I have spent the last 7 years instructing Special Forces soldiers, not one or two,,, but I would say hundreds if not more.

Lot's of men, good men, blade, impact weapons, empty hand, in a multitude of strategies. Style means squat to me, I believe in FMA and I believe in teaching it honestly.

My ethnic status or any other American's ethic origin is a bullshit cheapshot comment. I know for a fact, READ FACT, what has been taught has saved lives here and around the world, on the street, in the home, in bars, and on the battlefield of urban combat.

I look every man in the eye, I hold nothing back, and I face a ghost as I would face a man, eye to eye,,,

Maybe I pushed the hammer a bit hard lately, I'm a bit touchy, and I should just remain silent on forums. But honestly, any man teaching the art, sharing it with others for personal protection in a positive way should be respected, Filipino, Black, Asian,,, or a white boy,,,

Violence with bladed weapons is everywhere in the world,,,

I bleed if my brother bleeds and I never discount the skills of the originators of the FMA, why would you think anyone does?

In all my years I have never, literally never heard an American say, "We 'da baddest, and Filipinos ain't got no game",,, But I have read people such as yourself try to imply such stupid crap on forums,,,Give me a break....

Kelly S. Worden
 
Colt6731 said:
I've seen a lot of Pinoy FMA practitioners who keep this art very dynamic, especially since those guys in the PI actually practice what they have found works in real situations. Not like here in the states. Can you say that?
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I find that a very shallow ignorant comment. What Im trying to say is, theres a lot of books featuring FMA instructors, teachers, guros what ever you call it and those names I have mention should be included in any FMA books. They have helped (and still continue to) propagate this art around the world. They deserve credits.

Kelly S. Worden said:
I believe in FMA and I believe in teaching it honestly.

My ethnic status or any other American's ethic origin is a bullshit cheapshot comment. I know for a fact, READ FACT, what has been taught has saved lives here and around the world, on the street, in the home, in bars, and on the battlefield of urban combat..........................................................

...... any man teaching the art, sharing it with others for personal protection in a positive way should be respected, Filipino, Black, Asian,,, or a white boy,,,
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As for Sayoc Kali's non representation in Galang's book, we were also approached and the Sayoc organization politely declined.

Around the time Galang's book was being collated a small section about Sayoc Kali had recently been printed in Mark Wiley's FMA book - our attention is now focused in compiling our own material and presenting it thru various media.

--Rafael--
Sayoc Kali
 
Kelly S. Worden said:
In all my years I have never, literally never heard an American say, "We 'da baddest, and Filipinos ain't got no game",,, But I have read people such as yourself try to imply such stupid crap on forums,,,Give me a break....
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Kelly, as per my post, I implyed the exact opposite and that was in rebuttle to Edgelurker's post who tried to imply that only the infusion of non Filipino practicioners is keeping FMA "real". I may have made the same type of ignorant statement Edgelurker did before acually traveling in the past to the PI and seeing FMA practiced by experts who have actually cut and been cut in fights, something most american FMA practitioners have never experienced. There are huge Filipino communities in the middle east and europe and those Filipinos are often not covered by the same laws and protections people enjoy here in the US.
 
Chris Doner said:
That would make sense. He did include Michael Janich's Martial Blade Concepts system. It is heavily influenced by FMA but has a lot of "junkyard" aspects to it as well. The book is a great resource.
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Hetman said:
Well, mr. janich actually referres to MBC as "modern method with depp roots in FMA", or something along those lines. As the matter of fact, in couple of his interviews/articles, he tells specifically what thing he has changed or modified in order to get where his stuff is today.
But there is certainly no doubt what is his foundation, at least when knife is at issue.
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Colt6731 said:
It just seems to me that some (not all) American knife combatives instructors seem to want to put some special emphasis on something they learned that no one else doing knife combatives does to set them apart from everybody else. Not that Michael Janich does this, but when an instructor refers to some special "junkyard", "street", "gangland", "western", "cajun" or some such technique or application that is somehow uniquely theirs it is usually just another variation or existing technique or concept found in another FMA system upon closer examination. I watched a demonstration once in Germany of a instructor of "Historical Spanish" knife fighting that was a technique for technique match to the sinco teros techniques in the Manaois Eskrima system I practice. When I questioned those specific techniques, he replied thru an interpertor that of course the Filipino system I practice was the same since they received the techniques from the Spanish in the first place. Well anyway, you get my drift. :cool:
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Colt6731, I think you have misunderstood me.
All of those high lighted in red support the fact that FMA is a dynamic art. What Im tryin to say is, you dont have to be a Filipino to make this art dynamic. We know already that Prof. Presas had his own interpretation of the balintawak and call in Modern Arnis; Edgar Sulite had his own interpretation of his FMA ( Illustrisimo, Sulite, Caballero ) and called it LAMECO. So as the Non Filipino teachers has their own interpretation thus making this art dynamic.
FMA molds its practioner to become dynamic and stays efficient.
Since escrimador no longer protect their shore from colonizers, daily raid of pirates, and/or rival tribes it is up to us practioners, teachers to keep this art evolving.

EdgeLurker said:
Very cool discussions here. FMA is a very dynamic art which has evolved in so many ways through colonial times and still continue evolving in modern times by many stalented, skilled and dynamic open-minded practitioners. Theres a few non-filipino practioners of FMA that help this art stay dynamic. Mr. Janich, Mr. Worden and the Dog Bros. are among those people. As a FMA practitioner myself, I see these guys belong to the FMA Hall of Famers. They have done a lot to propagate this art. And what I really respect about these guys is they always give credits to their source but yet blend it with their own expression of the art.:thumbup: ....and that what makes it a dynamic art.
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Colt6731 said:
Edgelurker's post who tried to imply that only the infusion of non Filipino practicioners is keeping FMA "real". I may have made the same type of ignorant statement Edgelurker did before acually traveling in the past to the PI and seeing FMA practiced by experts who have actually cut and been cut in fights, .
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I dont remember saying that its only the non-filipino makes FMA "real". I was just suggesting that either it would be a Master of Blades" book or other FMA books Mr. Janich, Mr. Worden and the Dog Bros should be given credit and should be in those books.
 
Yes, I did misunderstand your post a bit. Please no worries. I guess my latest pet pieve is that we as Americans only look at what we have here in the states and forget there are absolutly amazing instructors and masters still in the PI. I give Master Galang all the credit in the world for his book, and really enjoy reading it. If he included everybody of note the book would be 1000 pages. Maybe he should do a volume 2?
 
Just want to drop a note to say hello, pay respect and courtesy to each and everyone of you, particularly Kelly Worden and MIchael Janich (both of which I have not met or communicated with yet).

I will try to catch up and look forward to meeting new friends from this forum.

Respectfully,
Roger Agbulos/LAMECO (S.O.G.)
Chief Instructor/ASTIG-LAMECO
 
I would like to say that I really liked the fact that Mr. Agbulos was the first person featured in the book, as it coincided nicely with the subject on which he put the most emphasis in his presentation, i.e. footwork. Although we all speak a lot about it, too many people into knife work take it for granted and actually do not practice it. In Mr. Agbulos' "chapter" you will see what in essence should the bread and butter of your ffotwork portion of knife training.
Cheers!
 
Nothing I do is new, really, but I truly appreciate the kind remarks, Sir Hetman.

Adding mobility in the movements makes one a tough opponent. But, putting stealth in the equation, makes one formidable and far superior.

Apply non-telegraphic striking to the above in all your workouts. You will see beauty in the art... just my 2 cents.

Description:
stealth - the act of moving, proceeding, or acting in a covert way.
 
Yeah, this is actually (the way I see it) the exact point to use non-telegraphic motion. In empty handed combat you sometimes just need additional power, so you have to wind up a little bit, but in wepons combat, it is the weapon that gives you power, therefore the stealth (as Roger nicely put it) really comes forth.
 
I was wondering if you could describe some of the training drills aimed at developing non-telegraphic attacks while in motion. Maybe in a new topic...
 
I don't mind sharing... not at all, my brother. But to explain this in writing is a huge feat for me. Writing is not my forte. :o

I'll work on it though, maybe even come out with short clips.
 
The big PG Edgar Sulite tribute even is bieng planned for April 2007 in LA, and to my understanding quite a few of those instructors presented in the Masters of the Blade will be giving demos/conducting workshops... It seems to me like definitely worthy of attending. :thumbup:
I hope that astig might provide some more info on the entire package.
 
I wanted to resurrect this thread to bring up another quality book by Reynaldo Galang.

"Warrior Arts of the Philippines"

If you are interested in FMA and enjoy reading about some of the more prolific teachers/experts, this book is a great one. Just some of the notable people covered:

Venancio Bacon
Antonio Ilustrisimo
Edgar Sulite
Benjamin Luna Lema
Remy Presas
Filemon Canete
 
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