Maximum Minimalism.

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Maximum minimalism.

Growing up with my dad was an ever continuing lesson in what we didn't really need. I guess being a depression era guy, dad didn't believe in spending money on things that were not absolutely needed for everyday life. He was one of those old time men who if he had 'A' gun, he didn't need another. Same thing with a drill, a fishing rod, a knife, whatever. This meant that I got a lot of good lessons in how to get something done with almost nothing.

And then I joined the boy scouts.

I don't know if Mr. Van and dad were related someplace far back down the line, but they had a lot of similar values. You could say, and not be wrong, that they had very spartan personalities. In another place and time, they would have put Robinson Crusoe to shame. Leave them on a deserted island with a pocket knife, and come back in a year, and they'd be sitting on the front porch of a nice bungalow with a drink in a coconut shell, and a dugout canoe in the lagoon for fishing. It was Mr. Van who influenced us, no that's putting it too mildly, ordered us to use just our scout knives for camp crafts. Any chairs, tables, cooking tripods, all were made with just that 2 1/2 inch blade of the issue scout knife. When we went on hikes, or camp-outs where it was a military forced march into the camp area, Mr. Van would personally inspect every scout's gear and pack before setting out. He'd toss out anything he deemed not really essential to the scouts survival. Mr. Van hated those nested silverware sets of spoon knife and fork. He's tell us, "You have a knife, what do you need another one for?" Same with the fork. He's have us whittle a wooden spoon for a camp craft, and that was our only dedicated eaten' tool. We'd hold down the whatever we were eating, and slice it with our trusty official scout knife, and chow down. Once Mr. Van was telling us, "Do ya'll think the mountain men carried nice little nested silver ware? Heck no, they had their Green River knives." Or "Do you think the Vikings set sail with forks?"

It was one of those times that Bobby Ryerson had to open his yap.

"Just think, if we were Chinese, we'd just use chopsticks!" he said.

Mr. Van stared at him for a moment, and we thought that Bobby was a doomed scout, but we had under estimated Mr. Van's dedication to maximum minimalism. He got a grin on his creased weathered face, and then told us that would be good practice for us. Everyone would make a set of chop sticks before dinner time. Of course there were muttered appeals, but once Mr. Van gave an order, it was chiseled in stone. So two dozen boy scouts combed the woods for likely sticks, and then sat and whittled what they thought would be good chop sticks. Subtle shaping with laps full of newsprint thin wood slivers, we used our spear point scout knives to make what we'd be eating with that night. It took a while, but by the time the evening campfires were going good, the ingredients of the hobo stew was in the coffee cans, we had what would be our evening dinner ware. Chop sticks. There were oak sticks, maple sticks, poplar sticks. One young scout tried pine, but complained at dinner that his stew tasted like turpentine. Dave Dougherty cheated a bit, making his chop sticks a bit pointy, so every time Mr. Van wasn't looking, he'd spear a piece of meat or potato and be chewing away when Mr. Van looked his way.

"Good work, Mr. Dougherty!" Mr. Van would tell him while we gave Dave dirty looks.

It wasn't just the knives that got minimalized, but all our gear. Flash lights. Mr. Van didn't want to see us show up with big D cell flashlights. He didn't even like C cell flashlights. No, we'd have the AA Ever Ready penlights. He'd point out that it gave us enough light to see a trail by, and was small enough that it would always be on our person. If we were going out on an overnighter, especially one that we had to hike into a more remote area, he'd make sure we were carrying a couple spare batteries. Again, the little AA cells were so small, they could be wrapped up in a spare bandana and go unnoticed in the pocket. According to Mr. Van's theory of things, if it didn't fit comfortably in the pocket, then it was too big to be useful. Looking back on it now, I have to admit that he had a point. All these decades later, I still find myself thinking about his minimalist theory. I still find myself carrying a tiny flashlight like a Fenix E01, and using a peanut size knife most of the time. And I still am carrying and using on a regular basis a Sear's 4-way screw driver like my dad carried. I don't think dad and Mr. Van had ever heard of the term edc, but they may have scorned it. They just knew what they knew from the hard times of the depression, and that there were just things you kept in your pockets to use in the job of living life.

I remember once asking dad in what very well may have been an annoying little boy way, why not carry this, or carry that too. Dad, in his ever patient way explained, that since you can't carry everything you need to deal with anything that may happen, you pick a few essentials, and go on with life having the faith that you will figure out something using what you have. Kind of like Teddy Roosevelt's quote about doing your best with what you have, where you are.

Small pocket knife, a few tools, and some careful thought, sometimes gets you pretty far. And a big stick is good too.
 
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Very good. Brings to my mind what I like to do as a hobby. Not getting into details, but I allways like to find simple solutions and try to see the connections between things. How different things are related, so whatever you do, it follows a simple, true path.

Minimizing things and making them simple is allways a good choise in life, in my view.
 
Another wonderful story Carl. Always love reading about your time in the scouts.

Thanks for giving voice for something I've long wondered about. Maybe it's because I'm Asian, but I never understood the fascination with carving spoons. Were it up to me I'd whittle up a pair of chopsticks and be done with it.

- Christian
 
Maybe it's because I'm Asian, but I never understood the fascination with carving spoons. Were it up to me I'd whittle up a pair of chopsticks and be done with it.

- Christian

It's kind of hard to eat soup with sticks :D Maybe if you have a black belt in the art?
 
Oh my God, how can one survive with just one knife in their pocket? I look like a traveling knife salesman, when I empty my pockets at night. Except a salesman's wares wouldn't have patinas.

:confused::foot:;):rolleyes::D:o

I thought I was trying to work towards a smaller collection. Apparently I was working towards a smaller collection, with more higher end knives, that I would be afraid to carry, going back to the knives I had before.

Same models in some instances :foot:...
 
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Great story Carl. The past year of my life has been an effort toward so type of minimalism. Not in the over the top sense, just decluttering, and trying to be content with what I have.
 
Another wonderful story Carl. Always love reading about your time in the scouts.

Thanks for giving voice for something I've long wondered about. Maybe it's because I'm Asian, but I never understood the fascination with carving spoons. Were it up to me I'd whittle up a pair of chopsticks and be done with it.

- Christian

Christian, I think a lot of times carving a spoon is just an exercise in carving technique. Chop sticks would certainly be easier, but a spoon requires much more skill to carve.
 
There's minimalism and then there is minimalism. Tricky term. In the outdoors world that term can mean some very different things.

For example my trout rod is a 6' - 4 weight model. That is considered minimalist in that it is small. Pretty close to the minimum rig needed for the larger trout that I might tangle with. You see this concept in some guys that hunt pheasants with 28 guage shotguns, elk with 243s, things like that.

Then you have the backpacking/mountain hunting crowd where the term is still concerned with being small and lightweight but also about carrying the least amount of stuff around on your back. It's about how big and heavy things are but also about how many things are actually necessary.

But there is also the way the term is used to describe what might be called spartan. You already have one shotgun? You don't need another. You might not need a rifle either if the shotgun can do the job.

You father sounds like a guy who had all of these patterns in his choices. I respect that a lot. I have made a real effort to trim down my profile in a lot of ways. Minimalism in all these ways has helped me enjoy my life a lot more. I'm not someone who would even attempt to live my live with 100 'things' or whatever but I have recognized that I enjoy my hunting and outdoor stuff a lot more when I am not worried about having the newest or latest greatest gadget.

Will
 
Great post, Carl. Thought provoking as usual.

One of the tensions played out in this is between versatility and specilization. Closely related is the skill needed to use a non-optimal tool.

A quick, non-knife story to make a knife point. In 1950s London, you would find cyclists commuting on bikes with fenders (mud guards) and lights. On the weekend, they would add a rack and ride out to the country and onc there, would strip the bike off all the extras to race in a time trial race. Today, it is common for a cyclist to have 3 specialized bikes, each optimized for these different tasks. The same goes for camping gear of all sorts as you noted and it applies to guns as you alluded to. Also applies to Nordic skis too fwiw.

IMO, it takes great skill to use a jack of all trades type of tool or piece of equipment. You can't rely on a particular design feature to pull it off. In today's world of cheap production, we can easily be pulled aside to specialized stuff.

Whitehead once said, "Seek simplicy, but fear it." Simplicity is demanding. One needs to commit to skill.
 
Great story, Carl. I remember family reunions in rural North Carolina where the older generation would talk to us younger kids about what life was like in the depression, and how easy it was (and is) to get by with very little. Once you accept what your circumstances are, it's kind of freeing, really. My family & I are learning that now, living on unemployment while we look for work & go to school. We're kind of enjoying it, actually.

But there is also the way the term is used to describe what might be called spartan. You already have one shotgun? You don't need another. You might not need a rifle either if the shotgun can do the job.

Reminds me of an older rancher my grandparents knew in Montana. He had a single-shot, break-open 12-gauge shotgun, and it was his only gun for decades. He had several types of ammunition for it, light bird loads up to 3" magnum slugs for deer & bear. He got his deer early in the season every year, too.

He'd travel to see his kids in Washington, and go duck hunting with his sons. He'd break down the shotgun, pack it in his luggage with a box of shells, and away he'd go. It fit perfectly in a standard suitcase.

He had plenty of money (he paid for several of his grandkid's college educations) but he was happy just using what he had on hand to get by in everyday life. I wish I could live like that.

~Chris
 
You know Chris, when it comes to a shotgun, it comes down to the question of "what can't you do with a shotgun?"

Small game, birdshot.

Deer, slugs.

Protect the homestead, buckshot.

For just one single firearm, I can't think of one single thing that can't be handled by a shotgun. :thumbup:

Carl.
 
A pleasure to read as always Carl...now I have to get back to cleaning my room:D
 
I like what Ray Jardine wrote about mountaineering/long-distance backpacking: "If I need it but don't have it, I don't need it."
 
I think I really would have liked to meet Mr. Van. And you gave me a great idea for our next campout too, chopsticks :D

Thanks Carl!
 
I think I really would have liked to meet Mr. Van. And you gave me a great idea for our next campout too, chopsticks :D

Thanks Carl!

Yup, that too. I've carved spoons on campouts that resembled . . . well, flat little shovels if you squinted and the light was dim. Can't say I really got good at it. Chop sticks, though, would be perfect. Easy to and you can make a new pair each time you eat.

~Chris
 
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Carl:

I have a hypothetical question for you ..... Let's say your dad were still around today and he lost his peanut. :( You offer to furnish him a replacement and lay out a few for him to choose from:

A SAK Classic, a SAK Executive, a Case peanut, and one of the smaller, 84mm SAK Tinkers.

Which do you think he'd go for, and why?

For the sake of this discussion, your dad would be middle aged, and still as active as you remember him when you were a young man.

-- Mark
 
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