McAhron Verrinder has not sent my knife

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f compassion or if you can afford 700$ knife you can afford to lose it.ignorance!he took the money he owes the product.just cause youre sick its not my fault or does that give you the right not come threw with the goods.the fact you are playing the sympathy card on a customer makes you a scumbag.be a man not a child and just do the work or refund the cash.awe my moms sick ,kids hurt,I have crabs,who cares you have a buisiness and took money for a product no one cares about youreppersonal problems.treat peiple the way you want to be treated .ok I might be a jerk but I am a man my word is true.if I say I will do something I will do it .if a peoblem pops up I take care of it on the side .I do not let it interfear or ask for sympathy cause no one cares they want what I said I would do.this maker and all the others who come up with these gay excuses and dont respond promptly should be shot enough allready.the op did nothing wrong by paying upfront.he did his part when asked even.gave him leeway.I will never buy a custom knife after hearing all this.most of them.have no idea how to run a business.even the good ones go bad.
 
endgamer said:
f compassion or if you can afford 700$ knife you can afford to lose it.ignorance!he took the money he owes the product.just cause youre sick its not my fault or does that give you the right not come threw with the goods.the fact you are playing the sympathy card on a customer makes you a scumbag.be a man not a child and just do the work or refund the cash.awe my moms sick ,kids hurt,I have crabs,who cares you have a buisiness and took money for a product no one cares about youreppersonal problems.treat peiple the way you want to be treated .ok I might be a jerk but I am a man my word is true.if I say I will do something I will do it .if a peoblem pops up I take care of it on the side .I do not let it interfear or ask for sympathy cause no one cares they want what I said I would do.this maker and all the others who come up with these gay excuses and dont respond promptly should be shot enough allready.the op did nothing wrong by paying upfront.he did his part when asked even.gave him leeway.I will never buy a custom knife after hearing all this.most of them.have no idea how to run a business.even the good ones go bad.
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Punctuation is our friend...

What exactly is a "gay excuse"?
 
So, i will see what my bank tells me as the next step. nope I'm not gonna hold my breath. i will contact Leo's in his area, and maybe the postmaster for mail fraud to as an option .

he made plenty of knives during the period he should have made my knife; and he sold them too... even sold a balisong that had a blade profile that was very close to the rendition to my custom:((((((
 
email being sent now

went to the bank today, and they have a 90 day transaction limit. he said customer service might be able to work something out, but he offered not a shred of hope for that to happen. other than that the police, and states attorney etc. would have to get involved ...
 
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There was a knife maker, who several years ago died tragically in a car crash. This maker was huge in the world of knife making and he had several orders pending. Because his knives carried his name and since his reputation was very important to him while alive, friends and his wife stepped up to clear his books.

If a maker who is killed can get his orders out, a maker who is still alive really has no long term excuse...................................
 
wolfmann601 said:
There was a knife maker, who several years ago died tragically in a car crash. This maker was huge in the world of knife making and he had several orders pending. Because his knives carried his name and since his reputation was very important to him while alive, friends and his wife stepped up to clear his books.

If a maker who is killed can get his orders out, a maker who is still alive really has no long term excuse...................................
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Well put. A lot of the excuse makers we see here would be better off if they remembered this story.
 
Sorry for both the OP's and McAhrons situation. I feel that no matter the situation. The OP is owed his money or a knife.
 
Rey HRH said:
My advice was contingent on the knife maker not being a scammer.
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Kind of sounds like a scammer to me.

But regarding compassion and my money, yes, I'm not rich. I can't think of justifying spending $700 for one knife, but I suppose I've spent more than that in total. But, yes, I gave a family I'm not related to or are friends with at least $700...
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Willingly giving someone a gift is not the same thing as being ripped off.
You might not spend $700 on a single knife, but how would you feel if I ripped you off of a $700 car? Or a $700 rent deposit?

A guy who is well-known and respectable isn't going to con just one customer.
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We don't know that at all. He may have scammed many more people that haven't joined the discussion, or he may have only scammed only one. What difference would that make to the OP? Should that make him feel better, or worse? Would it increase or decrease the chances of getting his money returned or a new knife?
 
Rey HRH said:
Yes, I aim to treat people how I would like to be treated. My advice was contingent on the knife maker not being a scammer.
If I was in his position and the facts are as they are, yes, i would take my own advice. Sending the OP money wouldn't show my compassionate nature; he admitted he didn't protect himself. It's not my duty to protect him.

But regarding compassion and my money, yes, I'm not rich. I can't think of justifying spending $700 for one knife, but I suppose I've spent more than that in total. But, yes, I gave a family I'm not related to or are friends with at least $700 early this year because the main bread winner had a aneurism and is still currently recovering. And, I didn't expect even a toothpick much less a knife from the transaction even. That's why I was able to imagine that for someone who could afford a $700 knife isn't going to be in the poor house for losing it. It's like the knife fell through down a street storm drain right after he got it.

I'm just taking my cue from the OP. He admits he's guilty of having paid the money up front. The guy is well-known and respectable. The guy is now citing several issues to do with his wife, or himself, or the whole family situation. A guy who is well-known and respectable isn't going to con just one customer. So I'm still going with the assumption that the issues are real. If they're not, then my advice doesn't apply. If the guy turns out to actually not be respectable and scamming a good number of his customers, that's the OP's faulty research.

So yes, I considered the situation as if it were my money and the knife maker wasn't scamming. What's the OP going to do? Go to the knife maker's house, force him out of his sick bed or from taking care of his wife and to make the knife or to dig around for the $700 that isn't available because he's spent it on medical care?
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Given your join date, you may not realize that the most common scam in the custom knife industry is to (a) ask for up front payment and (b) say you cannot deliver for family or health problems. If the knife has not been made or is unfinished, why not return the money?...that's because the money was spent as soon as it was received. That in itself is a scam, even if the knife is delivered. So if it looks like a scam, smells like a scam, and follows the typical scammers pattern then it......
 
I totally understand stuff comes up, I can easily see how someone who accepts orders based on his speed grinding several hours a day could end up hopelessly behind when health prevents him doing so. But, honestly I have to ask, why does knife making seem like such bad luck, seems like I see a new thread everyday about a knife maker that seems to have a horrible illness that prevents him from doing basic non strenuous tasks like contacting customers, refunding money or anything else.
 
SBaker34 said:
I totally understand stuff comes up, I can easily see how someone who accepts orders based on his speed grinding several hours a day could end up hopelessly behind when health prevents him doing so. But, honestly I have to ask, why does knife making seem like such bad luck, seems like I see a new thread everyday about a knife maker that seems to have a horrible illness that prevents him from doing basic non strenuous tasks like contacting customers, refunding money or anything else.
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Probably just because this is a knife forum so that's all we discuss. If this was a house painting forum, all of these threads would be about a painting contracting not starting or completing the job as was agreed on. I don't think knife makers are inherently prone to health issues due to the specific job they do anymore than any other profession
 
SBaker34 said:
I totally understand stuff comes up, I can easily see how someone who accepts orders based on his speed grinding several hours a day could end up hopelessly behind when health prevents him doing so. But, honestly I have to ask, why does knife making seem like such bad luck, seems like I see a new thread everyday about a knife maker that seems to have a horrible illness that prevents him from doing basic non strenuous tasks like contacting customers, refunding money or anything else.
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In some cases people really do get ill. It happens. But I dont think this is a "knife making" thing. It happens to everyone all the time. Which also makes it the most abused excuse of all. Health and family issues are just about the only two excuses that garner any sense of sympathy when it comes to not delivering. So IMHO its only natural that the excuse be used in place of all the BS that wouldnt fly with most members. Like "I really got into Call Of Duty" or "I bit off more than I can chew and Im choking on all my empty promises" Plenty of honest people. But I would bet there are plenty of people who cant stand to be the cause of their own problems.
 
SBaker34 said:
I totally understand stuff comes up, I can easily see how someone who accepts orders based on his speed grinding several hours a day could end up hopelessly behind when health prevents him doing so. But, honestly I have to ask, why does knife making seem like such bad luck, seems like I see a new thread everyday about a knife maker that seems to have a horrible illness that prevents him from doing basic non strenuous tasks like contacting customers, refunding money or anything else.
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This!

Lack of communication, is unacceptable. McAhron, had no problem, taking $700 dollars! He didn't fulfill his end of the agreement, & need's to do what's right: refund the money!

I had my very first, (fill in the blank) experience with a reputable custom knife/scale maker. He had a 6 month turn around time. After 6 months, I contacted him, & asked for a progress report. I won't say his name, but it turns out, he came down with a form of cancer, & was going through radical chemo treatments, & couldn't work. I had advanced him $100 for materials...anyway, he was upfront, & very apologetic.

Life happens...

I was just grateful to get back my $700 knife, mailed back to me. I told him to keep the $100. In this case, I honestly believe that this person was telling the truth.

What bothers me so much about this situation, is the fact that this maker (provided he is still alive), hasn't had the decency to respond.
 
Hate to reopen this thread, but did anything ever come of this? I too had ordered and paid for a McAhron custom balisong that was never received or reimbursed and I actually tried to defend him a bit on here, then he yet again broke contact.
 
Rey HRH said:
If it's true that he's not scamming you, then I would put it under "life happens" and consider your money as a "donation" of compassion.

If you can afford $700 for a knife, then I would think the loss isn't going to put you in the poor house. Yes, I understand the value of your money but consider what happened to him also. Why add more stress to him? It's not like $700 is going to make him rich either.

If the situation were reversed, how would you want him to deal with you?
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:rolleyes::thumbsdown:
 
gunfixrjoe said:
Hate to reopen this thread, but did anything ever come of this? I too had ordered and paid for a McAhron custom balisong that was never received or reimbursed and I actually tried to defend him a bit on here, then he yet again broke contact.
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NO, nada the only way i thought to deal with him can't be spoken here. ijs
 
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