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hudson078

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hi everybody,

i just bought (in the Netherlands) a new Mcusta MC-122D Tactility knife and noticed that the blade is different compare to my old MC-122D Tactility.
the shape of the blade and the width size is not the same. the swedge is very small and it's completely ruins the overall design on the knife.
i think it's a huge mistake knowing the Mcusta quality control.
what do you think about?
i'm trying to get contact with them but everybody is on holiday. hope somebody can explain this at Mcusta after Christmas.
here are the pictures, above my old knife, below the new.
do you think is it normal? i guess i've got an rare false blade.
regards
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3g374celyrc5kd9/mcusta1.JPG?dl=0
 
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Welcome to Blade Forums and your very first post. I opened this thread expecting to see a broken blade, pivot or pocket clip falling off. What I saw was a difference in the depth of the upper swedge grind line against another Mcusta you own. Mcusta's own web site says Mcusta stands for "Machine Custom Knives", and as such you will always get variations of grinds, swedge cuts and bevels as the cutting tool wears down. Occasionally the operator needs to recalibrate his machine back to the original specifications for the original design. However there is leeway in what passes QC, your knife may have been at the end of the cutting cycle thus the variations on the cutting height of the swedge

No big deal after the Holidays call the dealer and ask for another knife that meets your expectations.
 
thank you!

i'm relatively new to knives but i trying to educate myself more on them. mostly i'm interested in japanese knives and other japanese items. i'm quite fascinated by their culture and aesthetic. Mcusta knives are also represents their sophisticated mentality and that is why i'm collecting them. they are "talismans" for me :)
i still think that is a big difference on the swedge. originally there is a very nice curve what i miss very much. and there is a 1.4mm difference in width what is quite noticeable too.
i compared with more than 100 pictures from the net and they are all looks the same.
 
The difference is a bit much. But nothing terrible. If it bothers you go back to the dealer and talk to them about it. I don't know which Dutch dealer you bought it at but most of them over here in the NL are pretty easy to talk to.
 
hudson078 said:
hi everybody,

i just bought (in the Netherlands) a new Mcusta MC-122D Tactility knife and noticed that the blade is different compare to my old MC-122D Tactility.
the shape of the blade and the width size is not the same. the swedge is very small and it's completely ruins the overall design on the knife.
i think it's a huge mistake knowing the Mcusta quality control.
what do you think about?
i'm trying to get contact with them but everybody is on holiday. hope somebody can explain this at Mcusta after Christmas.
here are the pictures, above my old knife, below the new.
do you think is it normal? i guess i've got an rare false blade.
regards
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3g374celyrc5kd9/mcusta1.JPG?dl=0
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When I went to your picture, my first impression was that I liked the top knife better. I would be very happy with that knife. Where did you get the knives, maybe one of them is not genuine Mcusta.
 
I'm with you on this..for a production knife that's a pretty big difference.
I was considering a couple Mcusta's a while back but ended up passing. They use some interesting materials.
 
LX_Emergency said:
The difference is a bit much. But nothing terrible. If it bothers you go back to the dealer and talk to them about it. I don't know which Dutch dealer you bought it at but most of them over here in the NL are pretty easy to talk to.
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+1 to this.
Looks fine to me. I'd say the indication for authenticity would be the same damascus pattern blade stock they used in those two knives, also in mine and I'd assume in the rest of the same model:

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LX_Emergency said:
The difference is a bit much. But nothing terrible. If it bothers you go back to the dealer and talk to them about it. I don't know which Dutch dealer you bought it at but most of them over here in the NL are pretty easy to talk to.
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hi
i was on www.knivesandtools.nl. i try to ask them but i think it's a bit late. i put ballistol oil on the knife, and the handle is a bit darker now. i didn't immediately notice the blade problem. maybe i will keep it as a rare piece :)
 
Welcome to bladeforums.
Please dont put misleading titles on your threads. Failure is more like knife falling apart in your hand during use. Not a grind being a little different. Maybe they are from a different time period, I dont know. Best to wait until you have had a discussion with them and get answers first. If they say something like "that blade is different because its made of chocolate, haha we got you" then maybe its a Mcusta failure. If they give a reasonable explanation or offer to repair or exchange then I'd say we have no real buisness having this thread titled this way.

You have to undetstand that in knives, variances occur, bad knives hit shelves. Some companies handle it with the quickness, some have you jump through hoops and then you still dont get the knife back in a year. Lets find out how these guys handle this unusual grind issue before permanently labeling them as a failure for all to see. Get in touch, let us know how it turns out.
Best of luck.
 
Leftytwogunz said:
Welcome to bladeforums.
Please dont put misleading titles on your threads. Failure is more like knife falling apart in your hand during use. Not a grind being a little different. Maybe they are from a different time period, I dont know. Best to wait until you have had a discussion with them and get answers first. If they say something like "that blade is different because its made of chocolate, haha we got you" then maybe its a Mcusta failure. If they give a reasonable explanation or offer to repair or exchange then I'd say we have no real buisness having this thread titled this way.

You have to undetstand that in knives, variances occur, bad knives hit shelves. Some companies handle it with the quickness, some have you jump through hoops and then you still dont get the knife back in a year. Lets find out how these guys handle this unusual grind issue before permanently labeling them as a failure for all to see. Get in touch, let us know how it turns out.
Best of luck.
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sorry, it's meant to be "production failure". and i don't know how to rename the title.
i was pretty sure that's not normal.
but you are right, i have to wait for the official answer from Mcusta
 
Not getting onto you man, just a friendly suggestion.

I hope you get answers to your liking. Take care.
 
Its possible the two knives are from different production runs and they made some tweaks to the blade shape.
 
Dude, it's Christmas... Enjoy the fact that you can afford luxuries like a Mcusta instead of finding a reason to b**ch...
 
Blues Bender said:
Dude, it's Christmas... Enjoy the fact that you can afford luxuries like a Mcusta instead of finding a reason to b**ch...
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yes it's Christmas but we are talking about Japanese blades man :) the Japanese culture is known for its pursuit of perfection. Japanese traditional culture included the concept that people should strive for perfection in everything they did.
i think they need more focus at Mcusta. they need to use the ch'i force and put into the steel as did their predecessors. :)
 
hudson078 said:
yes it's Christmas but we are talking about Japanese blades man :) the Japanese culture is known for its pursuit of perfection. Japanese traditional culture included the concept that people should strive for perfection in everything they did.
i think they need more focus at Mcusta. they need to use the ch'i force and put into the steel as did their predecessors. :)
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It's Mcusta we're talking about, not Rockstead...

You seriously expect an entire company to change their vision due to a small change made to a production knife? You do realize that even bigger fish such as ZT and CRK have made changes in production without warning, right?

For example: ZT added replicable lockbar inserts to models that didn't originally have them, they also changed some models with M390 to CTS-204P. CRK added the (kinda ugly) "Idaho Made" stamp to many of their knives without any warning.

Times change and your expectations are unreasonable. This thread just gives Mcusta unnecessary bad press.
 
hudson078 said:
yes it's Christmas but we are talking about Japanese blades man :) the Japanese culture is known for its pursuit of perfection. Japanese traditional culture included the concept that people should strive for perfection in everything they did.
i think they need more focus at Mcusta. they need to use the ch'i force and put into the steel as did their predecessors. :)
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Ok dude. Now you're just talking crazy. The knife is what, $100 - $130 ? I don't have super high expectations at that price point. If you are striving for Japanese traditional perfection then you should probably be looking into one off customs that some guy really spent some time on, and a far higher price point.
 
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