Medford knives criticism

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shinyedges said:
LOL that is accurate.

Also funny how some people ignore the geometric difference in cutting performance like it doesn't exists. No one ever said a medford couldn't cut anything, they said its obtuse geometry makes it significantly less efficient than many other knives. So, no, in the realm of knives medfords are not "good cutters". Are they usable for cutting things? yes. So is a busse ash1, but it sucks at cutting things. Get over it.
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Yup. And I think there's a huge difference between saying, "they cut well," and, "they cut well enough for me." I think Medfords catch so much heat that many of their advocates are utterly unwilling to admit they may have any fault, no matter how small. No matter which way you look at it, they have objectively worse cutting geometry on their primary grind than 90% of their competition. Doesn't mean they won't cut, just that there are a plethora of other options that will give objectively better performance.
 
Along the way I have been honest about what they did well, and what they did less well at.
That is not good enough for some folks, so whatever.

Sorry I won't be home the rest of the day to argue about nothing important at all...I have to head out and do things.
But thanks for helping me decide to carry a Medford today. ;) Wasn't sure what knife to carry, but the ongoing drama tipped me over the edge to a decision. :D
 
stabman said:
Along the way I have been honest about what they did well, and what they did less well at.
That is not good enough for some folks, so whatever.

Sorry I won't be home the rest of the day to argue about nothing important at all...I have to head out and do things.
But thanks for helping me decide to carry a Medford today. ;) Wasn't sure what knife to carry, but the ongoing drama tipped me over the edge to a decision. :D
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See Stabman? You are being so naive to believe your own experience over the knowledgeable speculation of others. ;)
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Yup. And I think there's a huge difference between saying, "they cut well," and, "they cut well enough for me." I think Medfords catch so much heat that many of their advocates are utterly unwilling to admit they may have any fault, no matter how small. No matter which way you look at it, they have objectively worse cutting geometry on their primary grind than 90% of their competition. Doesn't mean they won't cut, just that there are a plethora of other options that will give objectively better performance.
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Exactly. In, the end, it doesn't matter who posts what pictures. In my experience, with everything from custom handmade kitchen knives all the way to the busse ash 1, thickness of stock along with primary grind and edge thickness are determining factors in how well a knife cuts. Tough to argue a thick knife is a good cutter when everything including experience says otherwise.
 
Fanglekai said:
I said D2 isn't tough. You said I know nothing about tool steels. I asked for you to show that D2 is tough but instead you're arguing that there's no need for tough steel on a thick folder. I made no statement about geometry. Go ahead and back up your statement that D2 is tough instead of trying to change the topic.
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The statement "D2 isn't tough" is objectively incorrect. I am not going to waste time further explaining the poor logic in multiple areas behind your statement. Do your own homework. Spoiler alert: that means it's going to take more than looking at some chart and saying "SEE, I'M RIGHT!" D2 is quite tough, regardless of your opinion. I'm rather embarrassed for you at this point.
 
stabman said:
Along the way I have been honest about what they did well, and what they did less well at.
That is not good enough for some folks, so whatever.

Sorry I won't be home the rest of the day to argue about nothing important at all...I have to head out and do things.
But thanks for helping me decide to carry a Medford today. ;) Wasn't sure what knife to carry, but the ongoing drama tipped me over the edge to a decision. :D
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Yep, this is where I'm at with it. Folks all wanting to remain the "Well other things cut BETTER" train need to just turn in all their knives that aren't razor thin slipjoints or Opinels (I mean, hypocrisy is bad, right?). Poor logic makes my head hurt.
 
My last post here because some folks don’t get it and won’t ever get it.




See? Cuts just fine. Oh wait, oh wait, sorry, it's not the best at cutting cardboard boxes into strips, so that means it sucks, right? LOL
 
Criminy, I'll never understand why people have to think their knife is a good cutter despite being FAR from the geometry of a good cutting knife. You are not fooling anyone who's been around a minute. Thick ass knives have limitations in the cutting department,whether people like it or not.
 
These are both good cutters, doesn't matter edge thickness or stock thickness or any thicknesses actually. Both good cutters.

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Have there actually been any comments in this entire thread stating Medfords won't cut? I don't think that's actually been said about them at any point in this discussion, but it seems like the strawman that every Medford adherent in this thread seems intent on burning.
 
marchone said:
I think the criticism is not that Medfords won't cut but their blade design is so ridiculous it's a miracle they cut anything at all. The grapes took the cake.
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Honestly? I think for a lot of everyday tasks a Medford with a sharp edge would do perfectly well. You don't need great cutting geometry to do a lot of cutting tasks and I think that's what folks that like them are trying to get at. Personally, one of the cutting tasks that I run into fairly often is cutting up cardboard. There are a lot of knives that do that very well, my Spyderco Chaparral lightweight is just about ideal for it, but because that's an expected task for me I look at the geometry of a Medford and think, "nope." Doesn't mean they can't cut, but for that type of task there are a lot of better options. If that's not something you do, though, then I can see why the geometry wouldn't put you off.
 
It was a joke. I was goofing on an overwrought design many many others accomplish by simpler means. It's all about style. If you like it that's great. I imagine Medford sells all he makes. That proves his popularity. I think it's a fantasy mini ax head.
 
I agree, no one said they can't cut. Anything with a sharp edge will cut. Geometry determines how well it cuts. It is the lie that they cut "well" that I take exception with. I have been around long enough to know the difference between "cuts" and "cuts well" which there absolutely is a difference.
 
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