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BVM, allow me to respond to your questions for me.
By veiled in secrecy, I mean that we don't know who the heck makes the knives! You suggest that the maker is probably an apprentice learning the skills. Do you know this for fact? I bet not. Few probably do! Who is making these knives? Who is this lone artisan? I want to know. Why veil the maker in secrecy? For further info on this, read Gollnick's post. He said a lot of good stuff there!
You said this, in response to me saying soem people only care about designs and materials:
The very next quote of mine answers this. For many other people, it is imortant who is making the knife. GO read the Good, Bad and Ugly forum and you'll see several makers mentioned who make awesome knives, but are crappy business people or real jerks. Yould you buy a Mercsworx blade if it was made by some woman hating untolerant Taliban guy? Probably not eh. Now, I'm not saying that th epeople behind MW are jerks or terrorists or anything like that, but veiling the maker in secrecy buts up a barrier between the maker and the customers- that sucks.
I agree that MW blades aren't custom- they are probably better classed as benchmade knives. Lots of hand work, nto too much automation, but set designs. Custom really menas that you can call the maker and say I want XYZ and they'll make that for ya. My comment about custom was in reference to dealers calling them custom, like Les.
You said this:
I don't want them to justify their product at all! All I would like to know is what their operation is like, namely who the heck is making these knives. It isn't a big conspiracy that they are keeping secret. The point is that the details MW knives have decided to keep secret are details that almost all other companies are up front about. It isn't a conspiracy, in my opinion it is a negative business practice. Not unethical, just bad business.
You said this:
Can't speak to the customers? They have an e-mail address and a phone number listed, so it seems that they are open to speaking to every single customer. Now, some have tried to call them, with no luck. That sucks. But this was never the issue that I have raised. My point is keeping secret about the manufacturing of the knives, but at the same time trying to use that as a marketing angle. Again, I don't think they are out to deceive consumers, I just think that the secrecy can, and is, negatively impacting their business.
I am not a conspiracy theorist type, and I don't think MW knives is out to deceive me at all. I like the designs and materials of the knives, and I wish MW knives all the best. I just think that by not revealing who is making their knives has introduced cofusion and hesitancy among consumers. By reading other posts on this forum, it looks like I am not alone. Please keep the insulting remarks (take off the hat) to yourself.
Karl Rejman
By veiled in secrecy, I mean that we don't know who the heck makes the knives! You suggest that the maker is probably an apprentice learning the skills. Do you know this for fact? I bet not. Few probably do! Who is making these knives? Who is this lone artisan? I want to know. Why veil the maker in secrecy? For further info on this, read Gollnick's post. He said a lot of good stuff there!
You said this, in response to me saying soem people only care about designs and materials:
The very next quote of mine answers this. For many other people, it is imortant who is making the knife. GO read the Good, Bad and Ugly forum and you'll see several makers mentioned who make awesome knives, but are crappy business people or real jerks. Yould you buy a Mercsworx blade if it was made by some woman hating untolerant Taliban guy? Probably not eh. Now, I'm not saying that th epeople behind MW are jerks or terrorists or anything like that, but veiling the maker in secrecy buts up a barrier between the maker and the customers- that sucks.
I agree that MW blades aren't custom- they are probably better classed as benchmade knives. Lots of hand work, nto too much automation, but set designs. Custom really menas that you can call the maker and say I want XYZ and they'll make that for ya. My comment about custom was in reference to dealers calling them custom, like Les.
You said this:
I don't want them to justify their product at all! All I would like to know is what their operation is like, namely who the heck is making these knives. It isn't a big conspiracy that they are keeping secret. The point is that the details MW knives have decided to keep secret are details that almost all other companies are up front about. It isn't a conspiracy, in my opinion it is a negative business practice. Not unethical, just bad business.
You said this:
Can't speak to the customers? They have an e-mail address and a phone number listed, so it seems that they are open to speaking to every single customer. Now, some have tried to call them, with no luck. That sucks. But this was never the issue that I have raised. My point is keeping secret about the manufacturing of the knives, but at the same time trying to use that as a marketing angle. Again, I don't think they are out to deceive consumers, I just think that the secrecy can, and is, negatively impacting their business.
I am not a conspiracy theorist type, and I don't think MW knives is out to deceive me at all. I like the designs and materials of the knives, and I wish MW knives all the best. I just think that by not revealing who is making their knives has introduced cofusion and hesitancy among consumers. By reading other posts on this forum, it looks like I am not alone. Please keep the insulting remarks (take off the hat) to yourself.
Karl Rejman
... oh yeah, that Spyderco Perrin is also affordable and nice ... wait, isn't Perrin a 'Merc' too? (sigh)
