Mercworx Knives...

Originally posted by Bastid
BVM,
You come in here and publicaly challenge me on why a thread was moved instead of emailing me.
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Show me where I did this. I do not recall "publically challenging" you on moving a thread. No flames, I just don't recall doing this.

When you do email me - no introduction no name.
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I've explained why I did this. I'd be happy to go over it with you again if you missed it the first time.

Deal with it anyway you wish.
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I have.

[qoute]I would like to know who you are and why you feel you have the right to challenge a sound decision to move a thread posted in three forums that was B.S.[/quote]

I don't recall ever making a knife for you, so I don't think I need to introduce myself now. :D

As to you saying Maximus6's comments are B.S. that my friend is your OPINION of what he said, just like what he said was his OPINION of MW products. I THINK Maximus's multiple post's were probably just a simple case of a guy getting excited about his purchase and wanting to share his joy with others. I say I THINK, because I wasn't here for these post's and I have not seen them.
 
Originally posted by Mick Strider
WOW...
Lots of 'Stuff" here.

I don't know who makes the knives, or how they are made, or of what...

I know the design works well...:)

I did in fact give the design to Mike. It is for his use as he chooses.

That being said...
This statement is moronic:

"People seem to be upset with MercWorx for not giving credit to Mr. Strider for the design of the knife. SO WHAT! I don't see Bushmaster, Wilson Combat, Colt etc. giving credit to Mr. Stoner for the design of the AR15 they produce and make a profit from."

Yes actually they do.
They also pay to use the design.

If not its called stealing...is that okay too?
Because if it is...maybe ill move into your house.

m
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Mr. Strider,

Thank you for setting me straight. You're absolutely right, that would be as good as stealing.

However, my comment was not meant to say that there are no fees paid to Mr. Stoner for production rights to his original design. I was referring to the fact that you do not see credit given to Mr. Stoner for his design in these manufacturers print ad's.

Sorry for not being more clear and keeping my ramblings in context.

Thank you for clearing up where and how MW came to be in posession of these blade designs in a public forum. Now there can be no doubt.

bvmjethead
 
I will bet MW has been flooded with hits to the website and is getting orders as well.
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There's an old saying, "You get what you pay for."

Or, as my younger brother so perfectly put it, "If you think you're getting something for nothing, then you're a dummy and you don't even know it."

In the past, several companies have tried to "create a buzz" on the forum and had it backfire. While it seems like free advertising, the problem is that a forum is just that, a forum. Other people can talk and you can't control what they might say.

Here at bladeforums.com, there are over 15,000 members. I think it's reasonable to say that a substantial fraction of the world's customers for high-end knives read this forum.

In the past few weeks, we've had two major threads about MercWorx knives. Neither has left a very positive impression for MercWorx. My strong advice would be to cut the line while you still have something left in the boat.

Eventually, the knives will speak for themselves when independent reviewers (again, I can't wait for Mr. Stamp's review) get a chance to see them.
 
Maximus6 is the only person I've read any reports from who at least claims to own a MercWorx product. He gets told to calm down or get removed from the board. Maybe I missed some of his posts, but I did a search of the WHOLE board and I can't see where his enthusiasm for the knife he purchased is overboard. He seems to be excited about a new product he's found and want's to share the product with other people who enjoy great knives. What's the problem with that?
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Sounds like a challenge to me and I explained the why the posts were moved.

I've explained why I did this. I'd be happy to go over it with you again if you missed it the first time.
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I did not miss a thing. Your request was rude.

BTW. You will not have to recall me buying a knife from you. I personally would not trust you. :barf: Why would I consider buying a knife from a no-name that does not have the guts to id themselves, when there are much wiser choices available other than buying into hype like a fool.

Max's post is quoted word for word above. Sorry if you do not have the ability to read it for what is is. :rolleyes:.


You are correct in that moving those posts were a judgement call on my part. I still stand by decision I made to move them. They were nothing more than unsubstantiated hype. That is a fact (not an opinion). Max even noted that he went overboard. If you think otherwise that is YOUR OPINION and it is no better or worse than mine.


As far as the friend part, maybe later when /if I know who you are and some manners are developed.
 
Why not leave the post where it was and let the forum readers decide what they think? I'm not saying you shouldn't have the right to move or delete posts that are inappropriate, but the post you quoted above isn't offensive. I liked reading it and deciding for myself whether it was drivel or someone who has a huge erection over MercWorx knives. This of course is just my humble opinion....and like everyone says, "Opinions are like......."

Ryan
 
Originally posted by bvmjethead
Maximus6 is the only person I've read any reports from who at least claims to own a MercWorx product. He gets told to calm down or get removed from the board. Maybe I missed some of his posts, but I did a search of the WHOLE board and I can't see where his enthusiasm for the knife he purchased is overboard. He seems to be excited about a new product he's found and want's to share the product with other people who enjoy great knives. What's the problem with that?
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This is not a "personal challenge", it's a question. See the little ? at the end of the sentence. Notice that I did not mention your name therefore not "personally" threatening your judgement or decision in any way. I asked a simple question. I expected a simple answer.

What is the purpose of deleting/moving somebody's post for a bit of overexcitement about a new purchase on their part? His statements, now that I've read them are not UNTRUE in his mind or opinion, he thinks (note the wording here, THINKS), MW products are great. Is he not entitled to his own opinion? I THINK that we are all big boy's here perfectly capable of making our own decisions as to what is hype, overenthusiasm or B.S. Please allow me the courtesy of deciding what is good or bad for me all by myself.

Hate me if you want, flame away all you want, call me rude, uninformed, whatever. BUT, don't censor and threaten to remove somebody from the board simply for expressing their OPINION. OK? You're more than within your rights to express your opposing opinion, but, (and now I am publicly challenging your decision to remove Maxim's comments) I don't feel the POSTED rules off this board allow you to be a censor. There was NOTHING in that post that in ANY way broke forum rules. Unless of course there are some unwritten or un-posted rules I have not been informed of.

I've read the site rules, and re-read them again just now. I do not see anything in there about being enthused, albeit maybe a bit overenthused about a product getting your post removed. It simply say's "be nice".

Furthermore, Gus are you a moderator? Your sig say's "super Bastid". Bronco is a moderator, at least his sig say's so, and he is publicly identified as such. If you are a moderator I suggest you identify yourself as such. Again no flames, just an observation. And as always in America you are well within your rights to address yourself any way you see fit. It just seems to me that IF you are in a position of authority, we ought to be able to clearly see that. You might be the owner of this site for all I know. :eek:
 
Originally posted by Rye
Why not leave the post where it was and let the forum readers decide what they think? I'm not saying you shouldn't have the right to move or delete posts that are inappropriate, but the post you quoted above isn't offensive. I liked reading it and deciding for myself whether it was drivel or someone who has a huge erection over MercWorx knives. This of course is just my humble opinion....and like everyone says, "Opinions are like......."

Ryan
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Can you say erection here?
 
Sorry folks, when a post sounds like a used car add my job is to move it. When i see the same posts more than once and in inapproprite places I am more inclined to move it.

bvm all you have to do to find out who mods are is to look at the forum leaders page. The title under my ID was placed ther by the forum owner.
 
Geesh, you'd think at my advanced age I'd know better than to post in one of these threads:rolleyes:

Mick-straight shooter as always.

Bastid is a super moderator and doesnt really need editing or ettiquette help from folks who've been here a hot 30 days.

There was alot of wisdom in Gollnick's post.

FWIW, I posted in this thread originally to "bust chops" or needle a certain dealer who has been a stickler about the term custom over the years. He showed the best judgement of all by not coming back to this thread.

Unless someone has ripped you off, posting emails is a really dishonorable, lowlife,classless thing to do.
 
Originally posted by lifter4Him
Unless someone has ripped you off, posting emails is a really dishonorable, lowlife,classless thing to do.
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My bad, Lifter4Him, I hope you'll forgive me.

Matt 6:14-15
14 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
NIV

I'm not perfect, at least that's what the people at my Thursday night home group keep telling me.

If I've offended some by posting Gus's e-mail, please forgive me. I was not aware that it was such a terrible thing to do.

No sarcasm here in case I'm misunderstood. I really am sorry if that was wrong.

bvmjethead
 
All is forgiven and forgotten. I would be a crazy man if I held hate and or grudges around here or anywhere else. I just get tired of substantianting things when I am always willing to go with a consensus of moderators. There are a lot of folks who participate here and anything done will be a good move in some eyes while a bad move in others eyes.

I am also much more open in discussing things privately when there is a perceived problem and I have been known to correct my actions in public when I have been mistaken and it has been pointed out to me.

Right now I still stand by my decision to move those three threads.
 
Not for anything, but if that was the unedited text extolling the MW knives, I'd say it smacks of advertising copy. Some "plain language" text is professionally written.

There is a field of advertising copy writing that is designed to hype a product in a voice that sounds like a buddy excitedly telling you what to buy. It's a "long copy" technique, as opposed to those ads that tell you very little about the product and try to establish an attitude about it.

And yes, as Gollnick mentioned, if this is perpetrated, it can backfire.
 
BVM, you did nothing for me to forgive you for, I merely commented on policy of posting someone's private email.
It's nice that you can pick out bible verses, read the whole book, there's alot of good ones:D
 
I think the Mercworx business model is interesting. It looks to me like they think that there are a large number of people who want to buy custom grade heavy military/combat knives. These customers identify with (or would like to identify with) military/paramilitary professionals. In order to provide the product without risking a lot of capitol buying equipment or hiring skilled employees they subcontract the fabrication to various professional knife makers. They want the flexibility to switch production between their subcontractors to avoid schedule risks. They also want to preserve their product identity when they switch subcontractors. These desires push them to hide the names of their subcontractors.

What irritates a lot of us Bladeforum types is the hype that is used to appeal to a rather juvenile customer base. Face it, young military types and military type wanabees are juvenile in age and in tastes. The marketing is targeted for that audience and is targeted to obscure their subcontractor production scheme. It looks hokey and deceptive to a lot of the Bladeforums crowd. I think that it sounds worse than it really is. We just have seen too much of that type of hype and it really raises our hackles. Time will tell if this company delivers a quality product at a reasonable price. Barring the hype the business model should be able to do that.
 
I shall ask again...does anyone actually HAVE one of these knives...and used it...? Just seems funny that that pretty heated descussion is being had over a knife making company where no one has actually used the knives...:rolleyes:
 
I have 2 of them on order. Apparently Maximus6 who claimed to have an Equitorian has disappeared from the planet. Maybe he got shipped out. I'll report when mine get here.
 
Just seems funny that that pretty heated descussion is being had over a knife making company where no one has actually used the knives.
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I don't see why that's funny. If I'm being asked to spend that kind of money for a knife, I think its legitimate to ask about the person or company behind it.

I have just noticed, for example, that while their website goes on at great lengths about how these knives are, "designed for extreme heavy-duty use, this is about as tough as a combat knife can get," I can't see on their website any mention of any warranty.

The character of the person(s) or company behind these knives is apparently all you get. Even if they do give a written warranty, a warranty is only as good as the company that wrote it.

So, the character of the company is a legitimate topic of discussion.
 
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