Merry Christmas and Totally Off Topic

oeser said:
And even cheaper still is the Remington 700
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This is the sniper rifle of the U.S. Army and Marines (in various configurations such as M24 and M40).

Thats good enough for me.

I have wanted one of these for many moons.

Skunk, I am still not quite clear on your use of the word "predator", but that is neither here nor there.

:)
 
My question is price range? What are you looking to spend? I help out in a fun shop quite often and price is always the kicker to what someone will choose to take home. The Cooper, AI, and Sako are going to cost you the most cheese out of the mentioned. Out of the rifles mentioned I would personally go with the CZ. Their tactical rifle is quite impressive and their set trigger is amazing. They can be had in my parts for about $800. I am in love with Tikka though. Have a look at their Tactical 308. My 223 has an action like glass and a trigger that needs no modification. I have only really put a few rounds through it and it is holding a sub-moa group at 100yds with bullets that are too light for the twist. These can be found for about $1000 but I think they are worth every penny. Tikka also is the only company I know really guarantees a 1" group out of the box or they will make it so. Remington, Winchester, Blazer, FN, Savage, CZ you name it its going to be good. It up to you but the 308 round in 168gr will do what you are asking with no problem. Don't forget the scope though I love watching people spend $1000 on a rifle and $150 on a scope and complain about the accuracy. Just my .02, HO HO HO and all that jazz. Merry Christmas Skunk

HAK
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oeser said:
For off the shelf performance, and if money is no issue the very best is Accuracy International.

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The AE comes in a .308 which will easily reach what you want with great accuracy.

A little cheaper but almost as good would be a Sako TRG-22 in .308

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And even cheaper still is the Remington 700P LTR in .308, which is one I have and I have shot a 7" group of 5 shots at 650 yards, and I am no marksman, let me tell you.

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(not my gun)

As far as ammo, if you are shooting targets you can't beat Federal Gold Medal Match ammo for off the shelf accuracy. And 168 grain .308 is a round anybody can shoot with great accuracy and easy to find in stores.:thumbup:

Hope that helps.:D
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Wow, I agree with every word.

Another good choice is Steyr SSG - one of the best out of the box, Synthetic stock, heavy berrel, large bolt handle, adjustable rail under the for end. Be careful though, it has optional double triggers, and depending what you are really doing with it, you might want to avoid that option, sometimes hair trigger is what you need

Robar SR-90
McMillan M86 if you can get your hands on one M82 is next best thing

M21 once again if you can get one, Super-match M1A from Springfield Armory, is onnce again next best thing.

Robar SR-90 is great and once again cheaper SR50 isn't bad at all.

Parker-Hale M82 or M-85

Mauser M86

Here are a few mods that are essential. Float the barrel and bed the action.

I alway though when given a choice preferred customs, if you put one together yourself you will be a very happy man and it wouldn't cost ya an arm and a leg.

On the ammo you'd have to very very very good to get better accuracy then Federal match with 168 grain boat tail hollow point.
For longer range .308 Lupa 185 Grain Match, Sierra 190 grain Match King.

I used to be up to date few years back, but after I just stayed with what worked for me. There are many more good systems out there. And the more you are willing to pay the better it can get, but you hit a point of diminishing returns fast.

Merry Christmas m8.
 
Very surprising to me that everyone is talking about these fine rifles, but no one mentions glass. At 300 yds and out, optics are just as important as the rifle. Let's hear what optics you folks are using.
 
.308's my choice. :D

Anything bigger puts the chooks off the lay and sets the milking cow back a couple of weeks. :D

Merry Christmas Scott. :thumbup:
 
My 6.5x55 SE and its hunting load is plenty accurate, definitely a "close enough for gov't work" sort of thing:

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This rifle+load has taken four pronghorn antelope thus far.
 
Skunk,

Never shot varmits so can't advise on that. But I have made sausage of many a Texas whitetail and ferel hogs. There is a good reason the U.S.M.C. uses Remington actions to build their sniper rifles on. Ease over to www.snipershide.com and look at their 2009 limited edition build. It's being built in 308 win. and 260 rem. We all know what the 308 is capable of, but not sure about the 260 rem. It's a 308 necked down to 26 caliber. The 260 will kick less and has good availability. I don't think there is much match ammo for it though. It was designed for hunting. There must be something to this round or they wouldn't be building such a rifle based on it.

I'm through rambeling. Hope this helps

SGB
 
Are you looking to save hides, do some culling, or just shoot and let nature do it's own cleanup?

For shoot and forget, try the 155 or 168 AMAX topped .308 Win. These are very accurate and cheap for what they're worth but are not recommended for harvesting hides...they are ruthless.
I have not used any factory .308 other than some Hornady 168 BTHP Match, but I can exceed it's result with handloads. I have heard really good things about the Hornady TAP ammo. Hornady and Black Hills also load AMAXs into other offerings if you don't want to load again.

As far as glass - Nightforce 15x or 22x NP-R2:thumbup:

I have heard good things about the .243 and the 6.5x55 as well.

Go over to www.benchrest.com for some ideas.
 
In my opinion, the ultimate soft target AND hard target killer next to the .50 cal would be the CheyTac .408 You would still have to reload ammo, but I think the trade off is worth it. The .408 outperforms both the .50 cal and the .338 Lapua. For the ballistic results, GO HERE
 
type00rev said:
In my opinion, the ultimate soft target AND hard target killer next to the .50 cal would be the CheyTac .408 You would still have to reload ammo, but I think the trade off is worth it. The .408 outperforms both the .50 cal and the .338 Lapua. For the ballistic results, GO HERE
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I'd absolutely love one of those.

Whiskey River said:
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LOL.... that was pretty harsh and not totally true)!

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LOL, i'm just playing around.
 
+1 on the 700, but have wanted to try Cooper's Scout also (anyone could shoot thing).
 
knife hunter said:
I couldnt see the pics , but 200 lbs predators?????


THis aint your average ground hog, praire dog, or coyote ?


A 200 lb wolf would be scary. Is mtn lion considered predator???

What are you calling a predator?


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I read a little more into it. Think about it for a moment.
 
+1 on Nightforce NXS Glass. Also, I run a Zeiss Diavari on my prarie dog rig and it is superb.

The rifles suggested are all excellent and it really comes down to the price range you want to stay in.

As for caliber, .308/7.62x51 would be best given the application requirement that it be easy for others to pick up and use and have common ammo. .300 Win Mag would have more pop without exotic ammo like .338 Lapua, but is not so easy to shoot. I keep an inexpensive Howa 1500 in .338 Win Mag around as a short range heavy hitter, but ballistically it is not so great at long ranges. That role remains the province of the .50BMG.

If you are looking to engage multiple targets, a Springfield M1A would fit the bill. Either the Loaded model or National Match. My NM routinely shoots sub .75MOA groups, but you have to be careful with the bedding. M1As have excellent iron sights and good triggers.

Something a bit more spendy in semi-auto is the LWRC REPR. Basically a very well made piston-driven .308 AR. I have only handled one, but not shot one or bought one yet. Fit and finish is excellent, and LWRC has a strong reputation. This would be much easier to scope than an M1A, which requires a cheek riser.
 
good info porkers! if the varmints/zombies show up in a vehicle i have the means to stop it.


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i'm starting to lean towards the 308 in a bolt repeater at this point. haven't looked at a savage ever. i do have remingtons, coopers and weatherby's. all are lightweight mountain kind of rifles in .270's up to the .300 wea mag. but i think the lil stinkers and skunkette's would do better with the .308 in a heavier barrel.

i'll have to check out some of the links posted here, thanks and keep the info coming :thumbup: :cool:
 
I never thought I'd own a Savage, but I took a flyer on one and been pleasantly surprised. It is a Long Range Precision Varminter (LRPV) in .204 Ruger. It comes with an HS Precision stock instead of the normal Savage el cheapo unit. It has a full 1" bull barrel. With a bipod, steel rings and mount, and a big scope, it barely moves when lighting off a round. The trigger is excellent and it is quite accurate. I don't believe it comes in .308, but something like this would be similar:

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10FCP-McMILLAN
 
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