Metal frame pocket pistol discussion

[Anelson]

Sig 938, great little pistol

 

[jackknife]

How about one of the original pocket pistols? Colt 1903 in.32 ACP:

This pistol reeks of svelteness.

Oaky, I'm jealous now!

I've long thought that the modern gun makers should take a look back at the old guns for inspiration .he modern guns really suck for both looks and feel. I just sold my Glock this [ast summer because I could never bond with that soulless piece of resin that was su[pposed to be a gun. Yeah, it was reliable, but felt like a Mattel Toy POS in hand. Those old Colt pocket pistols were the crown princes and princess's of pocket gun. I've got a family member that has the old 1908 vest pocket .25, and to handle it, you realize what superb machining and quality these guns had.

God bless John Moses Browning!

 

[Horsewright]

jackknife I feel your pain. I had to build the pictured holster for a customer in OK and I'm in CA. But I knew my good buddy had one so I trotted on over with a couple of beers and borrowed his Colt to make the holster. I AM GETTING ONER.

 

[jackknife]

jackknife I feel your pain. I had to build the pictured holster for a customer in OK and I'm in CA. But I knew my good buddy had one so I trotted on over with a couple of beers and borrowed his Colt to make the holster. I AM GETTING ONER.

It would be so easy if Smith and Wesson, Glock, Colt, Sig, Ruger, and the rest of them, JUST ROUNDED OFF THE SQUARE SLIDES!!!!

I have NEVER understood the unmilled 2X4 look all the gunmakers use now. It's like some design fad that all the guns have theses slides that look like an unfinished beam from the mill. Slip one in a pocket and you have printing that screams "GUN" like a poster with an arrow pointing to your pocket.

Aside from being ugly, it seems counter productive in a firearm designed for concealment to have square corners.

 

[JB in SC]

Colt's is offering a new Model 1903 Hammerless General Officer's Pocket Pistol, manufactured by US Armament under license from Colt's.

 

[Charlie_K]

It would be so easy if Smith and Wesson, Glock, Colt, Sig, Ruger, and the rest of them, JUST ROUNDED OFF THE SQUARE SLIDES!!!!

I have NEVER understood the unmilled 2X4 look all the gunmakers use now. It's like some design fad that all the guns have theses slides that look like an unfinished beam from the mill. Slip one in a pocket and you have printing that screams "GUN" like a poster with an arrow pointing to your pocket.

Aside from being ugly, it seems counter productive in a firearm designed for concealment to have square corners.

I kind of view the above series of pistols like I do some of the modern offering in knives. Beckers, Ontarios and such are built very tough, very functional, but the majority that I've seen aren't sleek and classy looking.

 

[jackknife]

The seecamp and NAA 32 and 380s are very nice. And of course j frame revolvers.

Due to the over 30 years of great service from my NAA mini .22 revolvers, I've actually developed an interest in the NAA .380 Guardian. From all I've heard and read about it, it's a very well made reliable little thing. And it's NOT square!

 

[JB in SC]

J jackknife the Guardian is heavy, like steel J frame heavy.

 

[OzarkJoe]

I don’t carry a gun due to personal reasons but I am a gun owner. I have a Bulgarian Makarov and an old Beretta 418 that I could carry if I wanted to. The Makarov is my baby. It simply works. ALL THE TIME. It’s designed to work in shitty conditions, with cheap, dirty ammo while being carried by a poorly trained conscript. It’s the pistol counterpart to the AK rifle. It just works. And it’s easy for me to hit with. I can go years w/o shooting it but pick it up and start hitting center mass despite me being just an OK shooter.

But as much as I like pistols, deep down, I’m a knife guy so I just carry those. Although my daily life doesn’t take me to very many dangerous places. If it did I’d be more inclined to carry.

 

[JJ_Colt45]

Jackkinfe ... I have one of the NAA Guardians in .380 and it is a nice gun ... some say it's heavy but to me it's just right ... the extra ozs just make it a bit easier to shoot ... and it is small enough to slip in a pocket holster and carry almost anytime.

But I prefer steel not polymer ... I only own 2 polymer pistols both HKs all the rest I've tried have been sold.

 

[jackknife]

J jackknife the Guardian is heavy, like steel J frame heavy.

J frame heavy? Like this J frame?



That's okay, I'm very familiar with that kind of weight. It's what made the .38 special a mild shooting gun even in the J frame. Very pleasant shooter.

 

[jackknife]

Jackkinfe ... I have one of the NAA Guardians in .380 and it is a nice gun ... some say it's heavy but to me it's just right ... the extra ozs just make it a bit easier to shoot ... and it is small enough to slip in a pocket holster and carry almost anytime.

But I prefer steel not polymer ... I only own 2 polymer pistols both HKs all the rest I've tried have been sold.

Yeah, a little extra weight is not necessarily a bad thing in a gun. That's why I Love the S&W J frame so much; it just shoots nice. Actually pleasant to take to the range for practice. As popular as the little Ruger LCP is, I can't find any liking of it in my heart. Cheap feeling and has a bit of kick on the range. I haven't fired a NAA .380, but I think I just may take a chance on it. Has all the things I like in a gun; all metal construction, nice rounded off lines.

 

[JB in SC]

J frame heavy? Like this J frame?



That's okay, I'm very familiar with that kind of weight. It's what made the .38 special a mild shooting gun even in the J frame. Very pleasant shooter.

Yep I have two Model 60’s, a 649, and a 640. I carry a steel J frame, and have for over 40 years. A .380 a lot smaller and lighter would be okay, but I prefer the J frame by a wide margin.

 

[leghog]

The belonged to my Dad's dad. He bought it in 1919 when he was discharged from the Army. Colt's M1908 Vest Pocket Hammerless. I gave it to my son who is the fourth generation to own it.

With a Savage M1917. Still have the Savage.

 

[navihawk]

I’m sorry that I missed this conversation. I did a search for Seecamp and it came up. My EDC has been a Sig P938 for a while now IWB because it was just too uncomfortable for my pocket. I also have a S&W642, also too uncomfortable for my pocket. The family went on a hike earlier this summer. I tried to carry my Bodyguard .380 in my pocket and was getting ready I decided it was too uncomfortable. I put the Sig on and went on my way. Later on I put the Bodyguard on consignment. I was never too crazy about polymer anyways. I’m sort of a traditionalist. I started looking for something I could pocket carry. I ended up with a Seecamp LWS .32. I love this little pistol. I’ve been carrying it daily now as it’s so easy to slip into my pocket. Right now I’m using a Galco pocket protector. I just ordered a Mitch Rosen pocket holster for it as it deserves some good leather. Yes the all steel pistol is much easier for me to shoot than that Bodyguard. The quality is unsurpassed imo. jackknife, if you haven’t gotten the NAA Guardian yet, take a look at the Seecamp. It’s designed around JHP’s so there’s only about 4 or 5 brands of ammo that is recommended for it and if you use them it is 100% reliable. The only polymer pistol I own now is a Ruger SR22. Nice little .22. There’s nothing wrong with polymer but I prefer steel or alloy. Cheers.

 

[stevewest]

I like my Kahrs and will pickup an airweight one of these days (I have shot them at the range). That being said, if metal were still the standard, I bet these guys would still be in production:

H&K P7

I carry mine in my back pocket when I'm out for a walk. It doesn't look near as good as this one does with the wood grips.

 

[K.O.D.]

I like my Kahrs and will pickup an airweight one of these days (I have shot them at the range). That being said, if metal were still the standard, I bet these guys would still be in production:

H&K P7

That and maybe a compact version of the Steyr GB. I love both, a range near me had them to rent about 10 years ago, but the owner decided to add them to his personal collection.

 

[K.O.D.]

It would be so easy if Smith and Wesson, Glock, Colt, Sig, Ruger, and the rest of them, JUST ROUNDED OFF THE SQUARE SLIDES!!!!

I have NEVER understood the unmilled 2X4 look all the gunmakers use now. It's like some design fad that all the guns have theses slides that look like an unfinished beam from the mill. Slip one in a pocket and you have printing that screams "GUN" like a poster with an arrow pointing to your pocket.

Aside from being ugly, it seems counter productive in a firearm designed for concealment to have square corners.

That's why I like my Steyr M9-A1.

 

[jackknife]

That's why I like my Steyr M9-A1.

The Steyr is a nice piece, no doubt about that. But it still doesn't have the smooth lines a Colt 1903 pocket hammerless. Theres a crudeness about modern design that baffles me. Like all the cars needing to look like the wind resistance is nil, but aerodynamics don't really matter until pretty high speeds. Buthow often are we going 70-80mph, vs just mourned town? And even if it makes a slight difference, wouldn't most people really prefer to have a car with some style like a '56 Ford Crown Vic or a '55 Chevy?

I think we've lost something in our culture that appreciates style just of the sake of aesthetics. Something easy on the eyes.

 

[K.O.D.]

The Steyr is a nice piece, no doubt about that. But it still doesn't have the smooth lines a Colt 1903 pocket hammerless. Theres a crudeness about modern design that baffles me. Like all the cars needing to look like the wind resistance is nil, but aerodynamics don't really matter until pretty high speeds. Buthow often are we going 70-80mph, vs just mourned town? And even if it makes a slight difference, wouldn't most people really prefer to have a car with some style like a '56 Ford Crown Vic or a '55 Chevy?

I think we've lost something in our culture that appreciates style just of the sake of aesthetics. Something easy on the eyes.

When you get down to it, revolvers will always be sexier than autos in my opinion.