Micarta texture

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They are all very smooth feeling, but when they get wet, they get grippy. I took one handle up to 2000 grit by hand (the big chef knife and blue/purple/aqua handle), still got grippy when wet. I did another one to 600, thin super glue applied and then re sanded to 600. Felt smoother than the 2000 grit, but still got grippy when wet. These are around 400-600 grit finish for most, and around 1K for the carbon fiber one.

If I blasted that burlap handle, it would have had a LOT more texture. Less pressure, more epoxy remaining in the handle piece to fill in the gaps. The burlap one has glow in the dark pigment in the epoxy and in the pins, too.
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I tried doing a camo style block of pieces of burlap, but it had a TON of air bubbles in it:
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If you use a vacuum chamber and/or pressure pot, you may get better saturation of the material with less bubbles in the end product. If you take the saturated material out and then pressed it, it may be more like prepeg real micarta texture wise since the fabric itself will be soaked, but the excess may be easier to squeeze out and with less air bubbles? I needed to let the burlap soak in the epoxy longer before pressing it so the little bubbles/voids had time to be filled with the epoxy. When I did the stacked layer glow burlap, I used a lot less pressure so I wouldn't force the epoxy out. Vacuum/pressure pot will give different results and the block may not be compressed as much unless you put it into the chamber with pressure already on it. Big difference with a piece being under pressure from a press versus vacuum/pressure pot along.

There are so many variables to try out! But most homemade mycarta has less felt texture until it gets wet, then the fibers kinda stand up like wood fibers to and give nice grip and then go back down when it dries out. Even after super glue and sanding back down and Tung Oil, they still do this a bit and some chefs that tried the handle loved that feature! Handle was smooth until wet, then it got super grippy and they had great control still!
 
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I don't see how the grip changes with the pattern of the material, if the epoxy fills in all of the cloth texture. I test made some "mycarta" this weekend using several layers of an old dress shirt backed by some blue jean denim. It turned out smooth no matter what.
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Micarta does not use epoxy, it is a phenolic resin. No offense but I can't stand epoxy mycarta, I think it feels horrible and sucks to work with.
 
The phenolic works so much easier in commercial micarta and I like the feel better! I kinda hate working with mine (or GCarta or Damagrip), but I like making custom colors and stuff! I find it works well with kitchen knives and stuff where I want a smoother handle (with traction when wet) or something completely unique. I am going to do a handle on a memorial knife for my buddies dad who passed away recently with some of his favorite clothing. It just totally and completely sucks working with it and takes a LOT longer to do the handle...like 4-5 times as long as G10 or real Micarta!

Current played with epoxy and fabric for micarta a bit and didn't like it either...lol. Colors were more translucent, darker and blah looking and the texture was a lot different/smoother.
 
Exactly. They are all smooth looking. Which means there's not much in the way of layup that makes a difference in the final result.
 
Micarta does not use epoxy, it is a phenolic resin. No offense but I can't stand epoxy mycarta, I think it feels horrible and sucks to work with.
I get that, but since nobody can seem to actually get a peholic resin., we all do with what we can do. You aren't helping anything at all.
 
Micarta does not use epoxy, it is a phenolic resin. No offense but I can't stand epoxy mycarta, I think it feels horrible and sucks to work with.
Yeah, no kidding. Good for you. So how does anyone get an actual phenolic resin kit? Otherwise, you're just rubbing our nose in it, you're not actually adding anything meaningful.
 
They are all very smooth feeling, but when they get wet, they get grippy. I took one handle up to 2000 grit by hand (the big chef knife and blue/purple/aqua handle), still got grippy when wet. I did another one to 600, thin super glue applied and then re sanded to 600. Felt smoother than the 2000 grit, but still got grippy when wet. These are around 400-600 grit finish for most, and around 1K for the carbon fiber one.

If I blasted that burlap handle, it would have had a LOT more texture. Less pressure, more epoxy remaining in the handle piece to fill in the gaps. The burlap one has glow in the dark pigment in the epoxy and in the pins, too.
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I tried doing a camo style block of pieces of burlap, but it had a TON of air bubbles in it:
View attachment 2926065


If you use a vacuum chamber and/or pressure pot, you may get better saturation of the material with less bubbles in the end product. If you take the saturated material out and then pressed it, it may be more like prepeg real micarta texture wise since the fabric itself will be soaked, but the excess may be easier to squeeze out and with less air bubbles? I needed to let the burlap soak in the epoxy longer before pressing it so the little bubbles/voids had time to be filled with the epoxy. When I did the stacked layer glow burlap, I used a lot less pressure so I wouldn't force the epoxy out. Vacuum/pressure pot will give different results and the block may not be compressed as much unless you put it into the chamber with pressure already on it. Big difference with a piece being under pressure from a press versus vacuum/pressure pot along.

There are so many variables to try out! But most homemade mycarta has less felt texture until it gets wet, then the fibers kinda stand up like wood fibers to and give nice grip and then go back down when it dries out. Even after super glue and sanding back down and Tung Oil, they still do this a bit and some chefs that tried the handle loved that feature! Handle was smooth until wet, then it got super grippy and they had great control still!
So ours is basically the same as mine except less precise, less uniform....
 
Never mind, you're not worth my time to respond in detail to try to explain it to you again since you don't get it.

Maybe now you realize why Micarta is made commercially by professionals and not in someone's garage and the homegrown products are always going to be different.
 
Tempers have flared and I think we are done.

When one is asking for help, politeness helps.

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