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Surfingringo · Dec 26, 2015

nccole said:
True, I think the Pacific Salt fits the bill. Unless you do a Military in LC200n. I'm assuming the Tusk wasn't the only one that gets to use that steel. I love the Tusk and it is one of the finest tools I own but I have not put that steel to extended use.

I have a custom fishig/boat knife being made right now in lc200n so I will have lots of info for you guys in a few months.

nccole · Dec 26, 2015

Surfingringo said:
I have a custom fishig/boat knife being made right now in lc200n so I will have lots of info for you guys in a few months.

Maker if he/she or you don't mind? Definitely looking forward to your observations.

Surfingringo · Dec 27, 2015

nccole said:
Maker if he/she or you don't mind? Definitely looking forward to your observations.

Darrin Sanders is making the knife. I actually visited him at his shop yesterday as it is near my father's house where I'm visiting for Christmas right now. He created a 4 1/2" design based on my specs. It is a utility knife for the kayak that will be capable of doing fillet work on the water when I come in with only one or two small fish. The idea is to leave the knife mounted on the boat so between the environment and the fish cleaning I should learn a lot about both corrosion and wear resistance in the first month.

We are both really happy with the design. He might call it the "Stingray". I doubt this will be the last one of these he makes.

okto · Dec 27, 2015

Sal Glesser said:
XHP is stainless D2. Higher carbon content than 440C.

Thanks for the correction, sir.

nccole said:
I do claim XHP to be better than S30V. In fact, S30V is the last respectable SS I would pick and XHP is the first or second I'd pick.

That's great, but that's an opinion, not a fact or an assessment. You LIKE XHP better, but you said that it IS better than S30V. Those are different claims.

It's all over opinion which is better ultimately

No, it isn't. Metallurgy isn't opinion, it's science. "154CM has greater wear resistance than S30V" is a falsehood, not an opinion. Wear resistance can be measured.

I'm interested to hear what about S30V you dislike so much? What specific, measurable things does it do worse?

nccole · Dec 27, 2015

okto said:
Thanks for the correction, sir.

That's great, but that's an opinion, not a fact or an assessment. You LIKE XHP better, but you said that it IS better than S30V. Those are different claims.

No, it isn't. Metallurgy isn't opinion, it's science. "154CM has greater wear resistance than S30V" is a falsehood, not an opinion. Wear resistance can be measured.

I'm interested to hear what about S30V you dislike so much? What specific, measurable things does it do worse?

First, I stated it as an opinion of mine. Made that very clear. I didn't say it is better and if I did that would still be an opinion. I said I LIKE it better.

Second, just because you read somewhere that S30V has more wear resistance than X steel doesn't mean you can claim "metallurgically" says it's better, and claim fact not opinion. Wear resistance is one of many properties that a steel has. Not to mention wear resistance as measured by Crucible in their data sheets does not always directly relate to edge holding. There are many ways to dull a knife. Contacting the edge to said media (again many things to cut) over and over until the edge is worn away is only one way and a very controlled non realistic way in my use.

I personally don't like S30V because I have had many edge stability issues with it. It doesn't hold its razor sharp edge long at all. It may hold its working edge for a good while but I like a keen edge and a steel that holds that longer. I also don't like the way it behaves on my sharpening stones.