Minimalist camping without a fixed blade

GREENJACKET said:
Sure different experiences but I doubt on most knife things that far apart.
I do like to try to tackle a problem before calling in the experts. Hate practical things defeating me, but then on certain things others have more skill than I. Some craftsmanship takes apprenticeship to master. A best London gunmaker, or a top knife knifemaker. Met and know a few.
I'm not really a knife collector but picked up a few over the years. Sold a few too. Lost a couple. The design has to fit to what feels right and I think would work. I do like to buy into steel, new steels, and the expertise and reputation of a knife that takes my fancy. You hope a knife has some luck built in based on reputation. Most of my knives are factory but I have a few custom. I have equal amount of folders to fixed. I've always been a fan of Chris Reeve, even more so after meeting him; but then he is a friend of a friend (I carried a Project II for seven years when in the military, and a big fan of the large Sebbie). Recently bought a couple of Survive Knives GSO's as I liked what they were doing. The Skrama I liked so much that I thought it needed a wider audience and gave it some push with a review (for the price and utility its a bargain).

There are a lot of knives to choose from now. Hard to find a badly made knife, easy to find one that isn't that great in use. Plenty that are asking for a lot of money, and possibly for what??? Tend to stay away from gimics.

Its a good hobby. I quite enjoy sharpening.
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I believe I read your review and it's likely to lead to another purchase at some point. And I agree, it is quite a good hobby.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Where did I do that?

I don't regard myself as the final arbiter of anything except my right to life. I simply have opinions. I operate according to those opinions. No more. No less.
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It was actually Quiet who insisted a fixed blade is essential.
 
It is unbelievable that folks who say a fixed blade is not needed cannot understand the position that other folks consider a fixed blade needed. Consistently there is one side that can't appreciate the other.
 
leghog said:
That's precisely why I don't use a hammock, and why public lands are beginning to ban them. Face it many strive to make as little impact as possible while some others don't seem to even consider their impact.
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You didn't seem to have an issue with your impacts in that picture of you in the snow. That was a smooth, snow covered surface, then you destroyed it. Anyone walking past before the next snow would clearly see that you had been there.

That's the issue I have with your assertions that your way results in leaving no trace. That is false. There is some serious cognitive dissonance going on.

But hey, you do you, man. :thumbup:
 
leghog said:
So then, what do you do when you shit on a talus slope above the tree line, or in two feet of snow, or a pristine beach, or a mangrove swamp?
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I've never camped "above the tree line", but the other three environments I've been in. I do what I always do. Dig a small hole, do my business, and cover the hole up. Trust me when I tell you that no amount of your ridiculous condescension or attempted inferences that I'm somehow having a huge impact is going to put the slightest dent in my day. I'll think about the few pictures of you that you've posted, how dour you look the next time I'm sitting by a nice little fire, waiting for water to boil in my small pot hanging from my tripod I've erected so I can have some tea. It'll be great.
 
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leghog said:
It was actually Quiet who insisted a fixed blade is essential.
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LOL I sure do seem to have your sensibilities rustled.

I said that there are many who believe that a fixed blade is essential, and I'm one of them. I never said the words "Everybody needs a fixed blade". That would have been as ridiculous as claiming that nobody does. Someone's opinion (like yours and Pinnah's) doesn't mean anything to me. It just doesn't. Here's the thing you seem to be missing, going WHOOOOSH right over your head: your opinion is just an opinion. It doesn't apply to me, or to anyone else who believes they need a fixed blade.

And if you are picking up some dismissiveness in my responses to you, it's because I've met plenty of older guys like you all throughout my life who are of the opinion that "If'n ya ain't doin' it my way, then it's wrong." I don't have time for that nonsense. I'm good, you do you, the rest of us will do our thing.
 
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Quiet said:
LOL I sure do seem to have your sensibilities rustled.

I said that there are many who believe that a fixed blade is essential, and I'm one of them. I never said the words "Everybody needs a fixed blade". That would have been as ridiculous as claiming that nobody does. Someone's opinion (like yours and Pinnah's) doesn't mean anything to me. It just doesn't. Here's the thing you seem to be missing, going WHOOOOSH right over your head: your opinion is just an opinion. It doesn't apply to me, or to anyone else who believes they need a fixed blade.

And if you are picking up some dismissiveness in my responses to you, it's because I've met plenty of older guys like you all throughout my life who are of the opinion that "If'n ya ain't doin' it my way, then it's wrong." I don't have time for that nonsense. I'm good, you do you, the rest of us will do our thing.
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Agreed.
 
Quiet said:
You didn't seem to have an issue with your impacts in that picture of you in the snow. That was a smooth, snow covered surface, then you destroyed it. Anyone walking past before the next snow would clearly see that you had been there.
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Yeah, and I don't have a problem wading streams and letting the water part around my legs. Now, go to either where that snow was or where that stream is and find the evidence I was ever there.
 
Quiet said:
leghog said:
It was actually Quiet who insisted a fixed blade is essential.
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LOL I sure do seem to have your sensibilities rustled.
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simply stating fact so your words weren't put in Thomas Linton's mouth.

I said that there are many who believe that a fixed blade is essential, and I'm one of them. I never said the words "Everybody needs a fixed blade".
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Let's at least be honest about it. What you actually posted was, "For those of us who are actually camping? Yeah, a fixed blade is a must have." that's is from post #321 of this thread.

That would have been as ridiculous as claiming that nobody does.
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"Must have" doesn't mean essential? Are the many you mention only those "who are actually camping or not? We aren't to take that to mean the millions who go afield without a fixed blade aren't "actually camping"?

Someone's opinion (like yours and Pinnah's) doesn't mean anything to me. It just doesn't. Here's the thing you seem to be missing, going WHOOOOSH right over your head: your opinion is just an opinion. It doesn't apply to me, or to anyone else who believes they need a fixed blade.
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Pot, meet kettle.

And if you are picking up some dismissiveness in my responses to you, it's because I've met plenty of older guys like you all throughout my life who are of the opinion that "If'n ya ain't doin' it my way, then it's wrong." I don't have time for that nonsense. I'm good, you do you, the rest of us will do our thing.
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Hi, Kettle.
 
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leghog said:
simply stating fact so your words weren't put in Thomas Linton's mouth.

Let's at least be honest about it. What you actually posted was, "For those of us who are actually camping? Yeah, a fixed blade is a must have." that's is from post #321 of this thread.

"Must have" doesn't mean essential? Are the many you mention only those "who are actually camping or not? We aren't to take that to mean the millions who go afield without a fixed blade aren't "actually camping"?

Pot, meet kettle.

Hi, Kettle.
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Hey guy who carries feces around but not a fixed blade, you are on a knifeforum. If ounces count and you don't carry a fixed blade, how many ounces does feces weigh?

Superb logic, by the way. Perhaps the warm dung keeps your hands warm?
 
Next time, I'll leave my dog's feces for your enjoyment, shinyedges. Just let me know where you want it.
 
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shinyedges said:
Right where it's at, your pocket.
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Or how about in a ziplock in a plastic shopping bag attached to the outside of my pack? Dog shit doesn't belong on a trail, nor does it belong anywhere near a water source or drainage to a water source. You can attempt to belittle me all you want, but that fact remains. If you take a dog into the woods you are responsible for the dog and what he does.

Let me guess, you're one of the guys who walks his dog, let's him shit in others' yards, then walks off leaving your dog's crap in those others' yards.
 
Tell that to the wild dogs call coyotes and wolves along with the plethora of other wild animals who crap anywhere.

Yea I get that if your dog craps in the middle of a trail move it to the woods a few feet, but pretending dog crap is like a radioactive waste is silly.

Billions of animals crap out side every day, fish crap in the water daily... so what is your argument again?
 
shinyedges said:
Tell that to the wild dogs call coyotes and wolves along with the plethora of other wild animals who crap anywhere.
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I'm not responsible for them nor what they do any more than I am responsible for you and what you do. Dog owners can't say the same for their dogs.
 
leghog said:
I'm not responsible for them nor what they do any more than I am responsible for you and what you do. Dog owners can't say the same for their dogs.
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I didn't think our exchange would change your flawed logic, just thought I'd point out the gaping hole in your "poop contaminating the water and earth " story.

So, ounces count and you carry poop... got it.
 
shinyedges said:
I didn't think our exchange would change your flawed logic, just thought I'd point out the gaping hole in your "poop contaminating the water and earth " story.

So, ounces count and you carry poop... got it.
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You can leave your dog's shit on the trail. Others choose not to. It really is just as simple as that.
 
leghog said:
You can leave your dog's shit on the trail. Others choose not to. It really is just as simple as that.
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I just said moving it off the trail is cool... did you miss it?

You use a PLASTIC bag to pick up your dog crap and it goes to a landfill and won't break down for hundreds of years. The poop will be back in to the earth in weeks.

More flawed logic.

So moving the poop off the trail isn't good enough, you have to carry it around in a plastic bag and then contribute to a land fill.

See the problem? I doubt it.
 
If ounces count why not pick up the poop with a trowel and fling it a few feet in the woods where it can break down with YOUR crap...
 
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