Moderator feedback: Custom/handmade knives

Moderator feedback: custom/handmade knives

  • Positive: Yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Negative: No

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Neutral/ Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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2knife

2knife

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1. Positive: Yes i think the Moderators do a fair job on this custom subforum, i see those who act rudely to others receive warnings and infractions, or banned- on an appropriate and equitable basis?

2. Negative: Moderators rarely interfere here. I think someone is neglecting the duty, personal attacks and name-calling are well tolerated and/or routinely ignored.

3. Neutral or Other- i have a different opinion which i will express by post.

Comments are welcome!
Thanks,
David
 
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David, I think your poll is too narrow in scope. I think the moderators are here for a reason, sure.

But IMHO, they do an outstanding job in NOT interfering. I think things have gone on just fine without interference from mods - the community itself does a pretty good job on it's collective own, without the need for moderators to correct those who are rude, etc.

Best,

Bob
 
I started to vote "Negative" because the mods are seldom heard from, but I don't think I would go so far as to say they are neglecting their duty, so I went "Neutral."
Posts can sometimes get pretty fractious on here, and I personally would rather see fewer pissing contests, but we should all be mature about it and live and learn.
If one can step back from the emotion of a heated debate, the truth which comes out usually serves our little community quite well.
 
betzner said:
David, I think your poll is too narrow in scope. I think the moderators are here for a reason, sure.

But IMHO, they do an outstanding job in NOT interfering. I think things have gone on just fine without interference from mods - the community itself does a pretty good job on it's collective own, without the need for moderators to correct those who are rude, etc.

Best,

Bob
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Plus 1 for me, David. Bob's assessment of the value of the poll reflects my thoughts too. I did not vote because your choices and the wording therein , don't match up with my opinion. Thanks for your effort and concern any way.

Paul
 
I don't know if a poll will allow edits, changing options. I hear what Bob and Paul are saying. My reason for starting this was to get an idea if I was the only one who feels that this forum is sadly lacking when insults are dished out, and proceeding fights break out. Clearly one can ignore them, but the social dramas often become the focus of an otherwise productive thread. And nothing is done.....

On the opposite end of the spectrum looking at the Exchange "For Sale" forums, the rule of no chatting is followed up by stern warnings everytime someone oversteps the boundary. And infractions are issued. When's the last time we saw an infraction issued here? ... To me it just encourages the wrong type of response - if no rule about it, or it isnt enforced?

I dont agree that many people here or others in the community are necessarily good "moderators" of each other. We have a social dynamic that is often influenced by a certain "notariety" or prestige, more than the inherit respect each member should be afforded.

My personal opinion.. I myself have had 2 infractions in the past for making insults. So, I guess it is possible...:D it must just be for the real criminals among us.
David
 
I'm mostly a lurker here, and post occasionally on the knifemaker's forum (but I'm not really a knifemaker, just an artist that uses a few of the same materials and techniques.) The majority of my posts are "I'll take it".

Please keep my "standing" in this subforum (or lack of standing) in mind when I say this.

What moderators? Are you referring to the guy who has only 300 posts in 9 years or the guy who has 5,000 posts but hasn't posted in 8 months?

Same happened in the knifemakers forum.

Moderators don't just settle disputes. They also keep things organized and on topic. They are an important part of any community and yes, it is sorely lacking here just as it was sorely lacking in the Knifemaker's forums, which ultimately led to mass exodus and less than helpful replies.
 
I dont think we need mods jumping in everywhere .. I think they do a fine job any more policeing would be a pain in the ass
 
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2knife said:
On the opposite end of the spectrum looking at the Exchange "For Sale" forums, the rule of no chatting is followed up by stern warnings everytime someone oversteps the boundary. And infractions are issued. When's the last time we saw an infraction issued here? ... To me it just encourages the wrong type of response - if no rule about it, or it isnt enforced?


My personal opinion.. I myself have had 2 infractions in the past for making insults. So, I guess it is possible...:D it must just be for the real criminals among us.
David
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David, trying to compare moderating the "For Sale" forums and this forum is like comparing apples and hogcrap.

The "For Sale" forums always needed strict, enforced rules so as not to see others' threads being walked all over. After all, people were depending on being able to sell their stuff.

Here, walking all over threads is a sacred right. It's what we do. It's what you do. And you are suggesting it is under-moderated? It's simply PROPERLY moderated. Gimme a break.

Best,

Bob
 
Hankins said:
Overall the mods here do a pretty good job of Policing this Forum
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I am wondering, from your comments above, if you may have thought you were voting in the poll one way, but actually voted another. As I look at the manner in which the poll is worded, anyone with your opinion would probably have voted "negative" or "other".

Just wondering if anyone else notices the affect this "wording" might have on voting. I voted "other" because the wording in "positive" and "negative" says one thing and almost means another.

Bob
 
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betzner said:
I am wondering, from your comments above, if you may have thought you were voting in the poll one way, but actually voted another. As I look at the manner in which the poll is worded, anyone with your opinion would probably have voted "negative" or "other".

Just wondering if anyone else notices the affect this "wording" might have on voting. I voted "other" because the wording in "positive" and "negative" says one thing and almost means another.

Bob
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It is worded exactly as it should be Bobby. It is negative in that it is negatively affecting this place that the mods do not step in when need be. See the flame wars all over between KEvin and roGER and Kohai/ST.Even using his supreme knowledge and intellect to belittle anyone that posts here.
 
just my two cents, but the poll was worded in a manner that might encourage people to answering one way or another. There is a term for this; its called response bias. The options were long, and somewhat internally conflicting (the negative one). Also shouldn't a Mod post this poll? perhaps telling in itself
 
If people wouldn't act like a bunch of self-important jackasses we wouldn't need any moderators.
 
I gave this some thought and finally voted "YES" in spite of the "spin" verbage used in the poll. I voted YES because I do not think we need any change in the moderation (real or imagined or lack thereof).

This is not pre school or kindergarten. Most issues that do come up are handled pretty quickly by participants in the particular thread although not always to the satisfaction of the cry babies.

Hell, I get enough moderation, oversight, and regulation from my government without having more foisted upon me here.

That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it.;)

Paul
 
I'm very surprised that there hasn't been any moderation, but how many of us have actually reported any posts? Constant moderation is almost impossible, thus there is an icon with an exclamation point that allows you to report a post if you desire.

We certainly don't want censorship, but disrespectful behavior toward one another shouldn't be tolerated. There needs to be some moderation....perhaps we should all man-up and moderate ourselves.

Bob
 
If you aren't hitting the report button, you are part of the problem. Period.
 
Different forums follow different rules. I enjoy this forum because of the loose moderation and the fact that people can openly express views and have good substantive discussions (e.g., arguments) with other people. When I get sick of the bickering and pissing contests, I go over to my home in the Traditional Forum where Elliot and Gus have created a very inviting and respectful environment. Many of the threads posted in Custom would not be tolerated in Traditional. It's just the way it is. Each forum has been shaped by its participants, and it is their choice where or not, and how much, they participate in the discussions.
 
Thanks Kevin,
yes, i sent you a pm entitled "moderator concerns"..
We would appreciate some advising on the issues mentioned. Is it our problem to "police" each other? If not, how does it work.. infractions and such? Or is there a moderator assigned who usually follows the daily board?
David
 
I can't believe that there are those of you who must have "rules" on whether "rudeness" is or isn't tolerated. "Rudeness" is difficult to define. It's very much a matter of personal opinion. And that's something best decided by the majority, ie, those who make up the greater numbers, here in the forum.

I think this forum has done a fine job on it's own, left alone, as Campbell has suggested. Any tampering is simply hampering.

Bob
 
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