Mora Pro Robust

[Blue Sky]

Finnaly !!! someone else that has followed the same path.

I think there's a bunch of us

Yes indeed, there are many. :thumbup:

There is a progression of sorts, after you've been here a while you'll see it repeated often. People come in asking about the venerable Ka-bar usually or something similar, and after a while they are moving on to the Benchmades and Spydercos and Bark Rivers and getting into all the discussions of toughness, steel, heat treatment, sharpening angles, stones, etc. At some point though, they get reluctant to use those expensive knives and wind up carrying along a "beater". Then they start to rediscover the old, boring, tried and true stuff they began with worked pretty well after all, and for a tenth the cost. And then a little doubt sets in... I followed that pattern myself.

Now, I will quickly add that this does not apply to all of course, and many eventually go the custom route and stay there, and many really do use their high end stuff rough and tumble. I'm glad for them, it's good to get pleasure out the things we like. And I get the attraction of it all, the quality and craftsmanship invested into a well made knife. I learned that I just couldn't do it myself.

But my unofficial, unscientific observation is a large portion of us instead learn to re-appreciate the old work horses and go back, we just don't talk about it a lot. I think that is also at least partly why many familer names slowly fade from the forums over the years...

 

[jdk1]

Yes indeed, there are many. :thumbup:

There is a progression of sorts, after you've been here a while you'll see it repeated often. People come in asking about the venerable Ka-bar usually or something similar, and after a while they are moving on to the Benchmades and Spydercos and Bark Rivers and getting into all the discussions of toughness, steel, heat treatment, sharpening angles, stones, etc. At some point though, they get reluctant to use those expensive knives and wind up carrying along a "beater". Then they start to rediscover the old, boring, tried and true stuff they began with worked pretty well after all, and for a tenth the cost. And then a little doubt sets in... I followed that pattern myself.

Now, I will quickly add that this does not apply to all of course, and many eventually go the custom route and stay there, and many really do use their high end stuff rough and tumble. I'm glad for them, it's good to get pleasure out the things we like. And I get the attraction of it all, the quality and craftsmanship invested into a well made knife. I learned that I just couldn't do it myself.

But my unofficial, unscientific observation is a large portion of us instead learn to re-appreciate the old work horses and go back, we just don't talk about it a lot. I think that is also at least partly why many familer names slowly fade from the forums over the years...

I've seen the exact progression you describe many times from the inside and out. After a several year khukuri buying spree, I realized that for actual use (my actual use), my old Cold Steel LTC I've had since the early '90s was perfect I've since rid myself of most of the khuks except for a few standouts. No guarantees there won't be more though That darned Becker BRK to be released in 2015 looks sweet!

 

[upnorth]

Yes indeed, there are many. :thumbup:

There is a progression of sorts, after you've been here a while you'll see it repeated often. People come in asking about the venerable Ka-bar usually or something similar, and after a while they are moving on to the Benchmades and Spydercos and Bark Rivers and getting into all the discussions of toughness, steel, heat treatment, sharpening angles, stones, etc. At some point though, they get reluctant to use those expensive knives and wind up carrying along a "beater". Then they start to rediscover the old, boring, tried and true stuff they began with worked pretty well after all, and for a tenth the cost. And then a little doubt sets in... I followed that pattern myself.

Now, I will quickly add that this does not apply to all of course, and many eventually go the custom route and stay there, and many really do use their high end stuff rough and tumble. I'm glad for them, it's good to get pleasure out the things we like. And I get the attraction of it all, the quality and craftsmanship invested into a well made knife. I learned that I just couldn't do it myself.

But my unofficial, unscientific observation is a large portion of us instead learn to re-appreciate the old work horses and go back, we just don't talk about it a lot. I think that is also at least partly why many familer names slowly fade from the forums over the years...

So true on so many points............ I seem to be on an axe journey as of late. It will be interesting to see what I keep after the dust settles. The higher end Swedes, or the utilitarian Finnish Fiskars.

 

[trailbum]

Thanks for the write up.
I like this one.

 

[Phoynix]

Glad to see so many people see less is more.

I think the whole progression thing ends up...

Theory Vs Reality.

Theory
Three Knives for the woodlore-kings under the sky,
Seven for the camper-lords in their halls of prefabricated homes,
Nine for Obese Men doomed to die,
One for the Internet Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of bushlore where the dream life lie.
One blade to rule them all, One blade to save them,
One blade to bring them all and in the wilderness feed, shelter, and protect them.
In the Land of bushlore where the dream life lie.

Reality
Need to come up with something for my big ass heavy knife to do before this camping trip is over or I carried it 20km for no freaking reason!

 

[abcdef]

Theory Vs Reality - now that's funny.

 

[RX-79G]

The Pro is interesting. Over the last couple days I've been looking at the specs of all the old and new Moras, and the Robust Pro has the stoutest blade for the money.

Mora makes 3 major blade thicknesses: .08", .100" and .126" (2, 2.5 and 3.2mm). The majority of their knives have 3/4" tall blades, while only a few have 7/8" blades. Until the Pro Robust, all of those tall, thick blades were on the Bushcraft series knives and were over $30. With the Robust Pro you get Mora's heaviest blade dimensions for $15. But you do give up .70" with the Pros vs. the Companions and Bushcraft series. Some folks are going to actually like the shorter blade for detail work.


Upnorth, do you like the new sheaths? The old Craftline and Tradesman sheaths were pretty thin and cheap. I was hoping the Pro line are tougher.

 

[jdk1]

Theory Vs Reality - now that's funny.

I prefer theory! Reality sucks

 

[stabman]

Glad to see so many people see less is more.

I think the whole progression thing ends up...

Theory Vs Reality.

Theory
Three Knives for the woodlore-kings under the sky,
Seven for the camper-lords in their halls of prefabricated homes,
Nine for Obese Men doomed to die,
One for the Internet Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of bushlore where the dream life lie.
One blade to rule them all, One blade to save them,
One blade to bring them all and in the wilderness feed, shelter, and protect them.
In the Land of bushlore where the dream life lie.

Reality
Need to come up with something for my big ass heavy knife to do before this camping trip is over or I carried it 20km for no freaking reason!

Actually, my theory was that knives cut stuff, so if I carried a knife (or knives), I could cut stuff.
So far, reality has matched theory rather well.

 

[RX-79G]

Actually, my theory was that knives cut stuff, so if I carried a knife (or knives), I could cut stuff.
So far, reality has matched theory rather well.

Except, of course, that you don't need to cut anything to go camping.



Another theory is that cupcake pans make cupcakes, so if you have a cupcake pan, you could make cupcakes.

Cupcakes are, therefore, just as much of a necessity for camping as a knife.

 

[Phoynix]

Further
Cupcakes contain calories, calories are required to survive, this is one self evident truth.

Hence forth every large heavy "survival" knife needs to have a cupcake mold included somewhere in its design along with a hollow handle for storing the cupcake mix.

If a "Survival" knife cant let me bake pink frosted cupcakes with sprinkles when my life depends upon it, well its not much of a survival knife is it?


I can see the news headline now
Man survives lost in woods by baking cupcakes!
The man who had been lost in the woods was discovered by rescuers late yesterday. A search team that had just turned back to base camp caught the most wonderful sent, moving to investigate with grumbling stomachs and salivating mouths. The subject of a multiday search was found hovering over his campfire baking wondrous smelling cupcakes with his survival knife. After sitting down and enjoying a few cupcakes the entire party with man in tow returned to base camp. When one rescuer was asked what he thought about the whole thing, he had the following to say.
"Those were the best darn cupcakes I have ever had"

Except, of course, that you don't need to cut anything to go camping.



Another theory is that cupcake pans make cupcakes, so if you have a cupcake pan, you could make cupcakes.

Cupcakes are, therefore, just as much of a necessity for camping as a knife.

 

[stabman]

Except, of course, that you don't need to cut anything to go camping.



Another theory is that cupcake pans make cupcakes, so if you have a cupcake pan, you could make cupcakes.

Cupcakes are, therefore, just as much of a necessity for camping as a knife.

Except that I do require a knife to go camping.
Because I leave things like tents and such behind.

Tents are as much a necessity for camping as cupcakes, to continue your odd analogy.

(I must admit to being surprised by the lack of knife enthusiasm amongst some folks on a knife site. Sad times indeed when supposed knife folks see the need to preach about the lack of need for a knife...)

 

[stabman]

Time for a real dose of reality:

We go out into the wilderness for fun, pretty much all of us.
No one is forcing us at gunpoint to go out there and survive for a month with what's in our pockets or backpacks.

We have food, heat, and comfy furniture at home; even the poorest of us have more creature comforts at home than the richest of us can stuff in a backpack (or pull on a sled, etc.).

So all the posturing about who is "more authentically awesomely real" is just that; posturing.
Posturing on the internet at that.

So if you like more knives, axes, tents, cupcakes, or big screen televisions with solar panels, good for you...you didn't have to go anyway.

 

[james terrio]

If you truly don't need to cut anything while "camping", you're not camping. You've brought your living room, bedroom and kitchen to a park.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. Have fun!

 

[stabman]

If you truly don't need to cut anything while camping, you're not camping. You've brought your living room and kitchen to a park.

Sig line worthy.

The Mora Pro Robust looks like an okay knife for the price, from what I can see. Not my cup of tea, but it would probably be fine to take camping. :thumbup:

 

[sodak]

Yes indeed, there are many. :thumbup:

There is a progression of sorts, after you've been here a while you'll see it repeated often. People come in asking about the venerable Ka-bar usually or something similar, and after a while they are moving on to the Benchmades and Spydercos and Bark Rivers and getting into all the discussions of toughness, steel, heat treatment, sharpening angles, stones, etc. At some point though, they get reluctant to use those expensive knives and wind up carrying along a "beater". Then they start to rediscover the old, boring, tried and true stuff they began with worked pretty well after all, and for a tenth the cost. And then a little doubt sets in... I followed that pattern myself.

Now, I will quickly add that this does not apply to all of course, and many eventually go the custom route and stay there, and many really do use their high end stuff rough and tumble. I'm glad for them, it's good to get pleasure out the things we like. And I get the attraction of it all, the quality and craftsmanship invested into a well made knife. I learned that I just couldn't do it myself.

But my unofficial, unscientific observation is a large portion of us instead learn to re-appreciate the old work horses and go back, we just don't talk about it a lot. I think that is also at least partly why many familer names slowly fade from the forums over the years...

I'm one of those who goes for both. I appreciate the Mora for what it is, and love the high end knives as well.

As long as you are USING whatever you have, all is good. There's room for us all, I'm just glad to be around other people who "get it". :thumbup:

 

[Phoynix]

A month back I was in hospital, I got snake bit... feeding my chickens 20m from my back door...

My landline(telephone was down) my mobile wasnt(it often can be)... not that it helped mind you.
It would have taken an ambulance around an hour to come out here pick me up and take me to the Hospital... lucky my brother was here... I got driven.

My entire interest in bushlore is more based upon practical need then actual enjoyment(I do enjoy it too mind you).

Some people choose to go out and put themselves in "dangerous situation" I on the otherhand are more interested in bushlore in regards to reducing the amount of danger I and my family are in should things like bushfire or somesuch happen... and a few times a bushfire has almost wiped us out.

So the next time you come into a thread and get all bristled up over what was to that point light hearted banter and want to give people a real dose of reality... you may want to consider that for some people... Bushlore such as how to compression bandage a snake bite to slow the venom down so they can survive long enough to get to hospital ISNT something they learn for fun in the off chance they get bit on holiday.

Time for a real dose of reality:

We go out into the wilderness for fun, pretty much all of us.
No one is forcing us at gunpoint to go out there and survive for a month with what's in our pockets or backpacks.

We have food, heat, and comfy furniture at home; even the poorest of us have more creature comforts at home than the richest of us can stuff in a backpack (or pull on a sled, etc.).

So all the posturing about who is "more authentically awesomely real" is just that; posturing.
Posturing on the internet at that.

So if you like more knives, axes, tents, cupcakes, or big screen televisions with solar panels, good for you...you didn't have to go anyway.

 

[stabman]

So the next time you come into a thread and get all bristled up over what was to that point light hearted banter and want to give people a real dose of reality...

I ain't bristled at all.
You, on the other hand, are doing a great porcupine impression.

 

[Revolverrodger]

My usual setup for multi day hikes
Enzo trapper
Bk9
Small forest axe
Sven saw

I always end up using all these tools

 

[Fuori]

I bought the stainless and carbon version today. For the price it was worth checking them out.