Morakniv New Ash Wood Outdoor Collection

Dav1 said:
I've seen a message from someone in the knife industry who spoke to one of the Mora family who confirmed its 12c27.
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That's cool but then why don't they just say so?

Also, does recycling 12C27 or making 12C27 from recycled materials make it any better? (Does it make it any better than what they use in the knives that cost like a tenth as much?)
 
Dav1 said:
I've seen a message from someone in the knife industry who spoke to one of the Mora family who confirmed its 12c27.
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Engr go look on Moras YT advert for one of the new knives rather than posting infantile shite.

I've had a look, they confirm the steel and it matches what I said from a good source
 
Had a look where? Just post the source.....

Chronovore said:
Also, does recycling 12C27 or making 12C27 from recycled materials make it any better? (Does it make it any better than what they use in the knives that cost like a tenth as much?)
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Its not even real "recycling" by normal definition. Its just the remnants from the blade stamping process are being collected and returned to Sandvik for further use instead of being sent to the scrap pile. Its not like they are sending people out in pickup trucks to scavenge for scrap metal to use in the blades.
 
Dav1 said:
Engr go look on Moras YT advert for one of the new knives rather than posting infantile shite.

I've had a look, they confirm the steel and it matches what I said from a good source
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HEY GUYS, SHAPE UP AND BE SERIOUS FOR ONCE. WE’RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THE STEEL IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS 95% OF MORAS OTHER PRODUCTS.

I’m sorry I had to yell like that, Dav1, these clowns just don’t seem to understand this is a serious subject.
 
“ further use instead of being sent to the scrap pile“ - Isn’t that the definition of “recycling”?

Anyway, what if we just forget about this silly stuff and evaluate the knives on their qualities when someone actually gets their hands on one?
 
Sibyrnes said:
“ further use instead of being sent to the scrap pile“ - Isn’t that the definition of “recycling”?

Anyway, what if we just forget about this silly stuff and evaluate the knives on their qualities when someone actually gets their hands on one?
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I can't agree with this post more 👏👏👏
 
Yes , testing .... Lets see some testing ...
Is it better than a $10 Mora ? , well should be stronger anyways ..
But is it worth $xx times more .. If you can make a budget Mora for $10 ..
Then you should be able to make one twice as good for $20 ... ( over simplified math )
I guess there going to milk the hype as much as possible ..

And I did see a video , where some one has already got one and posted a U tube video , essentially about nothing ! ( Ok , they got the knife )
 
Sibyrnes said:
“ further use instead of being sent to the scrap pile“ - Isn’t that the definition of “recycling”?

Anyway, what if we just forget about this silly stuff and evaluate the knives on their qualities when someone actually gets their hands on one?
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Preach
 
baxtrom said:
Partly this perhaps, and I would guess also by tradition. Full tangs may have been considered a waste of steel, why on Earth would anyone need that they thought, back in the days when knives were nor intended to be used as crowbars and batoning tools.

Edit: imagine a hundred years ago, only the village idiot would have been manhandling his knife like is done so often today, judging by the available flora of YouTube clips. It’s like seeing someone today driving nails with a smartphone 😀
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I've read a bit about the Saami's use of knives and apparently, like the Japanese, they prefer a draw cut to the push cut Westerners are likely to use. This might explain the flair at the butt of Saami knife handles.

I've tried draw cuts in the kitchen and prefer that technique for most kitchen chores (if you have a long enough blade, thus the length of Japanese kitchen knives*) and certainly if I need to skin something, but I live in a house full of knife abusers and I absolutely refuse to keep sharpening knives for people who refuse to use them properly - worse yet, if I sharpened our kitchen knives someone would slice off a hand. It's truly dumbfounding to watch, especially since their grandma and I are much of the same age, and we both sharpen a knife with the same hand (angle). When we were cooking the knives stayed sharp, but if the kids are willing to take over that chore from us oldtimes, then I shouldn't protest too much. I keep a set of knives in a chef's knife carrier for the few times I'm called upon to cook, and I clean, sharpen and clean again once I'm done. There's no way I'm leaving one of my decent knives in the drawer here.

And while I'm bitching - the younger folks slam doors, bang cutlery and dishware, and in general are just rough with everything they touch. I suppose that after Grandma, Granddad and I are gone and they start having to replace the things they break they'll use a softer hand. Now I'm off to yell at some clouds ...

* I trained a bit with Japanese sword techniques in two different martial arts schools I attended, and when I transitioned to medieval European sport fighting in armour I found it hard not to draw the cut, as that felt more natural. It isn't that medieval swords weren't sharp because many of them were, and those blades could be of very high quality steel which was properly hardened and tempered - but a draw cut just doesn't work very well against armour made of large plates, nor strong shields which in the later medieval era often had steel edge binding.
 
MolokaiRider said:
I agree. Something similar to what Kellum or Helle puts out.
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This is also what I was hoping for. Morakniv already had the Garberg pushing up into the next price tier, where there is a ton of very strong competition already well established and waiting: Joker, Kellum, and Terava.

Now they think just putting on ash wood scales means they can compete with Casstrom, Lion Steel, Lt Wright, and Bradford Knives. That's a big ask from knife customers. Other than some specialized carving knives, I generally don't need my Moras to be more than a Kansbol, which I consider a very good utility knife for around the yard and probably more knife than most people will ever need..
 
The Grendels said:
This is also what I was hoping for. Morakniv already had the Garberg pushing up into the next price tier, where there is a ton of very strong competition already well established and waiting: Joker, Kellum, and Terava.

Now they think just putting on ash wood scales means they can compete with Casstrom, Lion Steel, Lt Wright, and Bradford Knives. That's a big ask from knife customers. Other than some specialized carving knives, I generally don't need my Moras to be more than a Kansbol, which I consider a very good utility knife for around the yard and probably more knife than most people will ever need..
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The kansbol is deceptively good though in that it does cutting tasks really well.

Which in the world of bushcraft, battoning, survival knives always seems to be underrated.
 
Off topic maybe, but I just got an email from Morakniv that they are doing a LE in the Classic line to celebrate Swedens present and first King. The present sitting 50 years at the throne, and at the same time, 500 years since the first official King Gustaf Vasa was crowned in1523.
It will be limited to... 1523ex and the price is 1523sek
Just like a pair of sneakers these days, the prices are banannas ;)
 
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