More jungle photos

adaman04 said:
When I canoed and portaged the boundary waters in 2001, there was a guy who had some really nice pair of waterproof oversocks. At the end of the first portage we were wading through “Moose Muck” up to our thighs. Those socks didn’t quite pay for themselves in that application. :D Going to the jungle not willing to get your feet wet is probably the wrong place to be.
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The trick to footwear in the jungle, is you need boots that will let water out, not keep it in. Ever notice how military jungle boots have drains on 3 side? Yeah, jungle boots. You can't keep water out of your boots, but you can make sure you keep water from staying.

Trench foot, open sores, and that fetid jungle water will cause some serious problems.

Moose
 
moosez45 said:
The trick to footwear in the jungle, is you need boots that will let water out, not keep it in. Ever notice how military jungle boots have drains on 3 side? Yeah, jungle boots. You can't keep water out of your boots, but you can make sure you keep water from staying.

Trench foot, open sores, and that fetid jungle water will cause some serious problems.

Moose
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Yep, that's what we wore up there, jungle boots.
 
Alright, I realize I'm setting myself up for verbal abuse, but here goes:

Awesome pictures - I love when you guys share these types of photos...
But as fascinating as they are, they only reinforce that unlike your "Joe", the jungle is no place for me. lol I love the outdoors - you can hardly get me out of the woods - temperate North American woods - with mixtures of coniferous/deciduous trees, and leaves that change color in the fall and drop to the ground in the winter. Changing seasons. Some rain. Some snow. Some heat. Some cold.
The Jungle is everything I despise - heat, humidity, rain, mud, strange creatures that want to kill and/or eat me. Natives that want to shrink my giant, parade-float-sized head (which I would consider if it could stay attached to my stubby neck).
In short, I love reading about your jungle-training courses and looking at your pictures from the comforts of My Old Kentucky Home (and outdoors).
But please, if you EVER devise a course for us RAT/ESEE fans a bit further north, I want to know about it (someone mentioned Boundary Waters - sign me up for that one!).
In fact, I would suggest this:
I've asked "why?" before, and you gave the sensible answer - you teach "jungle survival" because that's what you know. How much fun would it be for us potential students if the course instructors were also out of their element and learning new techniques on-the-fly, or adapting their vast pool of knowledge to new situations and new environments? I can say this with a great bit of confidence - I will never find myself in a jungle, and I'd bet that I'm in the majority here. I can however foresee a time when I need to self-rescue my silly behind from an overturned canoe - or cross a cold, snow-melt fed river in the western US, or have to cut a hole in an icy pond and try to fish...

So how 'bout it, guys and girls - two dozen RAT Packers - a dozen canoes, Mike and Jeff (and I'm sure they know at least one counterpart somewhere in the country who is familiar with the cooler/temperate regions of North America!) - and a week-long paddle across the Boundary Waters, living -off the land along the way? What say ye?
 
oruacat,

I love the idea. The only reason we train in the jungle is because it is everything most people hate.
 
Have you guys checked out Spirit airlines? I fly from Fort lauderdale, FL to Costa rica for 100$ round trip, sometimes even for 40$ a ticket one way.
 
Tyrkon Lawson said:
Those are great pictures. I need to save my pennies and get to one of these trainings.
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Or, we could just wait until Jeff comes to you.

A little global warming ... an earthquake or two ... perhaps a suitably placed volcano ... and BLAM!!:eek:

Southern California becomes a jungle.:)
 
OldPhysics said:
... Southern California becomes a jungle. :)
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It's a different kind of jungle for us folks. We're in a high desert that steals water from our neighbors. We likely have shy big predators you may lack.

My brother-in-law had to deal with a couple of curious mountain lions a decade ago in the Santa Monica mountains.
 
R.A.T. said:
oruacat,

I love the idea. The only reason we train in the jungle is because it is everything most people hate.
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Yep, I totally get that. I took up spelunking because I am claustrophobic, as ridiculous as that sounds. On a side note, does piranha taste anything like bluegill? If so, I wanna eat one.
 
Im a desert rat, through and through, I hate water, I hate trees, I REALLY hate bugs. I hate not being able to see forever and ever. With all that said, I would like to take the jungle course though, just cant afford it though.
 
Moose, I think in that photo I was saying something like "Boys I think we have walked in a big ass circle. This looks just like the place we were an hour ago." And you are right about the boots. You will get wet from head to toe. Trick is to dry out when you can:) Mike
 
MikePerrin said:
Moose, I think in that photo I was saying something like "Boys I think we have walked in a big ass circle. This looks just like the place we were an hour ago." And you are right about the boots. You will get wet from head to toe. Trick is to dry out when you can:) Mike
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Mike then realized the 3 neck knifes he was wearing was screwing with his compass. :D
 
stsparky said:
Maybe, a group could fly a charter to save on cost?
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Oh, now THAT's just a movie plot waiting to happen...Survival group charters a plane to South America...crashes somewhere in the jungle...encounters various icky things...gets eaten by predatorial aliens...

Oh, wait, doesn't this sound familiar in some respects?

:thumbup::D
 
It would be ridiculous to have Mike and Jeff on the same plane for the same reasons that you never see POTUS and VPOTUS travel together. :D
 
stsparky said:
What if one flew further south and drove north on the Pan-American Highway ala Tim Cahill? That would one heck of a road trip. Would that be cheaper?
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The Pan-American Highway doesn't go to Iquitos though. The city is *not* connected to the rest of the world by road. Everything has to come in by plane or by boat.
 
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