Recommendation? More than just another knife

I decided to look last night and found the same thing. New Marbles demo knife...made in China, and the older camillus made ones on EBay cost more than an alox SAK. No thanks
And not that made in China means junk or anything. Lots of quality products come out of China. A $7 reproduction pocket knife coming out of China? I'm not going out on a limb here when I call it junk.

And if you are buying an original at the price of an Alox SAK, you are doing it for purely nostalgic reasons, which is fine, just don't tell me it is for any other reason...

Plenty of cool history in spending your money on a victorinox, lots of utility too.

$43 shipped new:
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Gerber Covert can still be found for sale, if you aren't a steel snob it has good ergonomics and the Applegate-Faibairn pedigree
 
And not that made in China means junk or anything. Lots of quality products come out of China. A $7 reproduction pocket knife coming out of China? I'm not going out on a limb here when I call it junk.

And if you are buying an original at the price of an Alox SAK, you are doing it for purely nostalgic reasons, which is fine, just don't tell me it is for any other reason...

Plenty of cool history in spending your money on a victorinox, lots of utility too.

$43 shipped new:
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Can't go wrong with an Alox SAK , one of the most useful knives I own .
 
Terzuola / Drop mini tactical is a great knife, I'm carrying that one currently. Emerson A-100, also a great tactical folder. Both are discreet, built well, they look great, and they are very useful EDC's. I've been on a recent kick to find these smaller versions of tactical folders, probably just from getting older, but I've found them to be awesome and easier to carry than their bigger brothers.
 
The quality of my 2017 Marbles demo knife is at least as good as my 1980s era Camillus.
 
Terzuola / Drop mini tactical is a great knife, I'm carrying that one currently. Emerson A-100, also a great tactical folder. Both are discreet, built well, they look great, and they are very useful EDC's. I've been on a recent kick to find these smaller versions of tactical folders, probably just from getting older, but I've found them to be awesome and easier to carry than their bigger brothers.

I forgot about this thread. :oops:

First of all, your activity to membership duration ratio indicates that you have much more restraint than I do, especially when it comes to making dumb comments!

Second, if your name comes from where I think it does, I appreciate the reference!

If I could find a Mini A-100 (for less than $500 or some other redonkulous price), I would consider it. But this is another one of those things that the machinery of the Universe will not allow me to own.

I like the Al-Mar......
 
It is a reference from the 80s. I’ve rekindled my relationship with pocket knives recently. It’s been a looong time since I was knee deep in buying/trading. Some of these newer brands, I don’t even know, We, James, Kizer, etc. I am glad to see familiar names and that they’re still making great knives. I added my name on the Emerson website waiting list for the mini, and I’m trying to join the closed Facebook group EKOG, but they haven’t let me in yet, probably have an age limit.
 
Someone made comments about the current 08 Soldier from Victorinox and the old Demo knife and one of it’s copies.

I have not seen one reference to the Pattern 61 Soldier Swiss Army Knife. It has a history. It’s tactical and yet it is isn’t tactical at the same time.

Victorinox and Wenger both made versions for the Swiss. Getting one of those is still easily done.

Yes, it’s true that it is nothing more than a glorified Pioneer but, the knife’s history makes it fun and it’s a decent knife.
 
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The CRK Sebenza is the first tactical folder to be made out of a full titanium handle with a unique pivot bushing and an industry changing integral frame lock. Also, able to be fully disassembled /reassembled by owner with lifetime warrantee. Guaranteed against saltwater; oil, sludge, mud, etc.

Get a Sebbie (or Umnumzaan) and end it. It defines tactical. The history is there also.
 
The CRK Sebenza is the first tactical folder to be made out of a full titanium handle with a unique pivot bushing and an industry changing integral frame lock. Also, able to be fully disassembled /reassembled by owner with lifetime warrantee. Guaranteed against saltwater; oil, sludge, mud, etc.

Get a Sebbie (or Umnumzaan) and end it. It defines tactical. The history is there also.
We can agree that it is a great knife but, how is it tactical?
 
The ONLY one that comes to mind is a knife that's hard to come by, but well worth it.
...the finest folder I've ever known..
Spyderco Slysz Bowie...
 
This is something that I've been chewing on for a while, but it's been difficult for me to figure out how to address it in a civil way. Tone of voice is impossible to convey across the internet, and tone of voice is 70 or 80% of the way we understand what another person is trying to say.

I don't want to turn this into a rock-throwing contest, because that shuts down all discussion, and ultimately, hurts the entire forum. I'm not sure how polite I'm going to sound, but here goes.

I see all sorts of "recommendation" threads started in General Knife. People want prices, materials, opening methods, clips, and on and on, with every aspect of knife design and materials either included or excluded at some point.

No matter what the OP says they do or don't want, somebody will eventually come along and suggest the Sebenza or some flavor of Paramilitary 2. Or both. Sometimes in the same post.

"$150 is the most I feel comfortable paying for a knife."

"Get a Sebenza, mate. It's everything you want, even if you don't realize that you want it."

I'm going to focus on Chris Reeve's product here, since my reasons for not wanting one are less factually-based. I understand all of the qualitative and quantitative reasons why the Sebenza is a superior product. It's the most value for the money that you can get from a knife, and I understand that part of it's value is in the experience of using it, which is another thing that's impossible to convey across the internet. I even appreciate that it embraces the idea of approaching perfection by removing everything that doesn't have to be there.

It's also three or four times more expensive than my hard ceiling. I would never be able to truly experience a Sebenza, because I would never want to carry and use it the way it's intended. Quite simply, it's too much knife, for me.

The other reasons are even more esoteric: perfection is the end of evolution. I don't see knife enthusiasm as a journey toward an end goal, I see it as an endlessly evolving experience. If I buy "the perfect knife", then there is no longer any need for me to think about knives, or interact with other people, or share their enthusiasm for the search. I can simply tell them that a Sebenza is the perfect knife for everything and everyone, and that they should get one, even if it's the wrong blade shape, or they don't like framelocks, or the price is way too high.

I believe you, guys! it's just not, for me.
 
Cold steel AD15 is $150 and fun. I understand not wanting the Sebenza, I felt the same way. Got the Umnumzaan instead, so you should try that.

:p I'm just kidding.
 
This is something that I've been chewing on for a while, but it's been difficult for me to figure out how to address it in a civil way. Tone of voice is impossible to convey across the internet, and tone of voice is 70 or 80% of the way we understand what another person is trying to say.

I don't want to turn this into a rock-throwing contest, because that shuts down all discussion, and ultimately, hurts the entire forum. I'm not sure how polite I'm going to sound, but here goes.

I see all sorts of "recommendation" threads started in General Knife. People want prices, materials, opening methods, clips, and on and on, with every aspect of knife design and materials either included or excluded at some point.

No matter what the OP says they do or don't want, somebody will eventually come along and suggest the Sebenza or some flavor of Paramilitary 2. Or both. Sometimes in the same post.

"$150 is the most I feel comfortable paying for a knife."

"Get a Sebenza, mate. It's everything you want, even if you don't realize that you want it."

I'm going to focus on Chris Reeve's product here, since my reasons for not wanting one are less factually-based. I understand all of the qualitative and quantitative reasons why the Sebenza is a superior product. It's the most value for the money that you can get from a knife, and I understand that part of it's value is in the experience of using it, which is another thing that's impossible to convey across the internet. I even appreciate that it embraces the idea of approaching perfection by removing everything that doesn't have to be there.

It's also three or four times more expensive than my hard ceiling. I would never be able to truly experience a Sebenza, because I would never want to carry and use it the way it's intended. Quite simply, it's too much knife, for me.

The other reasons are even more esoteric: perfection is the end of evolution. I don't see knife enthusiasm as a journey toward an end goal, I see it as an endlessly evolving experience. If I buy "the perfect knife", then there is no longer any need for me to think about knives, or interact with other people, or share their enthusiasm for the search. I can simply tell them that a Sebenza is the perfect knife for everything and everyone, and that they should get one, even if it's the wrong blade shape, or they don't like framelocks, or the price is way too high.

I believe you, guys! it's just not, for me.
You must have purchased 4 or 5 $100 knives over the years. I know I have. I have lost interest and sold many $100 knives over the years. The one knife that I have not lost interest in and gets regular pocket time and use is my
Sebenza 21. You like many people might say “ I would never buy a pocket knife for over $400”. You like many people might buy 4 or 5 $100 knives in search of the perfect pocket knife.
 
This is something that I've been chewing on for a while, but it's been difficult for me to figure out how to address it in a civil way. Tone of voice is impossible to convey across the internet, and tone of voice is 70 or 80% of the way we understand what another person is trying to say.

I don't want to turn this into a rock-throwing contest, because that shuts down all discussion, and ultimately, hurts the entire forum. I'm not sure how polite I'm going to sound, but here goes.

I see all sorts of "recommendation" threads started in General Knife. People want prices, materials, opening methods, clips, and on and on, with every aspect of knife design and materials either included or excluded at some point.

No matter what the OP says they do or don't want, somebody will eventually come along and suggest the Sebenza or some flavor of Paramilitary 2. Or both. Sometimes in the same post.

"$150 is the most I feel comfortable paying for a knife."

"Get a Sebenza, mate. It's everything you want, even if you don't realize that you want it."

I'm going to focus on Chris Reeve's product here, since my reasons for not wanting one are less factually-based. I understand all of the qualitative and quantitative reasons why the Sebenza is a superior product. It's the most value for the money that you can get from a knife, and I understand that part of it's value is in the experience of using it, which is another thing that's impossible to convey across the internet. I even appreciate that it embraces the idea of approaching perfection by removing everything that doesn't have to be there.

It's also three or four times more expensive than my hard ceiling. I would never be able to truly experience a Sebenza, because I would never want to carry and use it the way it's intended. Quite simply, it's too much knife, for me.

The other reasons are even more esoteric: perfection is the end of evolution. I don't see knife enthusiasm as a journey toward an end goal, I see it as an endlessly evolving experience. If I buy "the perfect knife", then there is no longer any need for me to think about knives, or interact with other people, or share their enthusiasm for the search. I can simply tell them that a Sebenza is the perfect knife for everything and everyone, and that they should get one, even if it's the wrong blade shape, or they don't like framelocks, or the price is way too high.

I believe you, guys! it's just not, for me.
I dont agree with your premise. After I bought my sebenzas this year I then bought a hinderer and a ZT 0804. The Sebenza is quite simply perfection but that doesn't put an end to my love for knives. I plan to add more brands and styles to my collection and all knives I own get used. Can't fully appreciate a knife unless you use it.
 
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