Most exciting brand?

I don't have a problem with spyderco and there Taiwan made knives . But what ever happened to price they are charging 200+ for almost everything coming out of there .
 
miltmaldo said:
I don't have a problem with spyderco and there Taiwan made knives . But what ever happened to price they are charging 200+ for almost everything coming out of there .
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Look at it this way. Its the quality of materials for most of them--Southard, domino, dice--premium steel (CTS-204p, which is Carpenter's version of M390) and CTS-XHP. Titanium frame, bearing pivot. Also, a lot of the Taichung models have very large blades (Slysz Bowie, Farid K2, Schempp Tuff), which increases the cost.

There are a few from Taichung which I feel are overpriced, though perhaps that is because certain collaborators charge more than others and/or the uniqueness/limited availability, I don't know. The Nilakka is one that comes to mind.
 
K.O.D. said:
Look at it this way. Its the quality of materials for most of them--Southard, domino, dice--premium steel (CTS-204p, which is Carpenter's version of M390) and CTS-XHP. Titanium frame, bearing pivot. Also, a lot of the Taichung models have very large blades (Slysz Bowie, Farid K2, Schempp Tuff), which increases the cost.

There are a few from Taichung which I feel are overpriced, though perhaps that is because certain collaborators charge more than others and/or the uniqueness/limited availability, I don't know. The Nilakka is one that comes to mind.
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Sal has said before that they keep a pretty consistent margin. If one of their models is expensive to buy, it's because it's expensive to produce.
 
K.O.D. said:
I'd really like to see more innovation in the jarbenza segment.
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When I first joined up and heard the term "jarbenza" I thought it was a sebenza that was purchased with "jar change" .

You know, "I've been saving my quarters forever! I can finally afford a sebenza!"
 
For me, I am interested in some of the ZT lineup - 0450 and 0392.

Keeping a watch on Reate also!
 
K.O.D. said:
Look at it this way. Its the quality of materials for most of them--Southard, domino, dice--premium steel (CTS-204p, which is Carpenter's version of M390) and CTS-XHP. Titanium frame, bearing pivot. Also, a lot of the Taichung models have very large blades (Slysz Bowie, Farid K2, Schempp Tuff), which increases the cost.

There are a few from Taichung which I feel are overpriced, though perhaps that is because certain collaborators charge more than others and/or the uniqueness/limited availability, I don't know. The Nilakka is one that comes to mind.
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ZT is doing the same for less . ZT is making LE for $375 . Spyderco is charging $300 plus for a production knife Rubicon s30v . Taiwan made . What ever happened to the days of a Gayle Bradley for $145 or all the Sage that are great knife but came with an awsome price .
 
miltmaldo said:
ZT is doing the same for less . ZT is making LE for $375 . Spyderco is charging $300 plus for a production knife Rubicon s30v . Taiwan made . What ever happened to the days of a Gayle Bradley for $145 or all the Sage that are great knife but came with an awsome price .
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Exactly.

Thumbs down to Spyderco doing less than ZT, but charging more.
 
There is certainly a lot of great examples out there from everyone and I have more than my fair share. That said, ZT does create the most excitement in the $100 - 300 range. That is not a slam on Spyderco or Benchmade as I have a large number of those which I really like also.
 
I'm loving my Farid knives for big knives with great steels heated properly and on the other hand I do have and collect William Henry Knives that are in the mid to upper ranges. All of my William Henry knives are tungsten coated with a wave Damascus zdp-189 HRC at 67. They are so different from Farid's work, but I do love them both. I have 2 of his REX-121 K2s and they are fun to have, but a little heavy to carry. Great thread.
 
IMHO, I think Boker is coming up with some exciting stuff. I bit the bullet and picked up a Dark Hollow I've been wanting for a while now I'm longing to check out a few newer models. The Squail, Gitano and Uolcos in particular. And anything by Jesper Voxnaes.
 
here in BF, few brands generate as much excitement as does GEC when introducing a new model. in fact, it's the only maker i know who regularly comes up with a "Forum" knife.
 
knife117 said:
I've handled several ZT's and spydercos, and the ZT's are way more consistent in quality. It's easier to find flaws in the spydercos.
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When ZT has put half as many knives in the hands of Americans as Spyderco has..... Only then can you have a valid argument.... I own hundreds of Spydercos and a hand full of ZT's including their fixed blade model...... Great knives, but no where near what Spyderco has produced since 1981! And as far as thinking that their knives made overseas are inferior.... I'm a Case knife collector(American Made) and I'd never looked down on a Spyderco made in a country that was making knives that could cut a man in half , before America was a country.
 
GronK said:
I stand by my comment. While both make knives that cut the similarity stops there. Kershaw/ZT focuses on sexy recurves, ball bearings, assisted openers, flippers and dramatic eye appeal. Spyderco makes solid, "designed in the dark" knives that just work with great ergos, the hole, premium blade steel and maximum knife for the weight. I'm talking trends and history here. I see Spyderco occasionally stepping out of that zone and doing collaborations with bearings, flippers, recurves, flippers and such (beginning with that abomination called the Spyker) but relatively rarely. I'm not saying either is wrong, just that they are different.
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I totally agree...
 
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