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Originally posted by drjones
I'm sorry, but I think you guys are NUTS to take a SAK into a "survival" situation! Think of being trapped in a building that was bombed - you may have to break glass, pry, etc... and you want a SAK??????
Whatever man, I'm takin' my Strider BT and I'd like to have a GB folder too...
Drjones
As a matter of fact, I have broken the glass on a car window, cut a seltbeat and pried a door jamb loose with a SAK Swiss Champ. Admittedly a multitool would have been better but I wasn't carrying one. I carry the SAK everyday.
Touche.
I'm just of the "Bigger is better" sort. Just feel more comfortable that way. Even if I would be COMPLETELY fine in a situation with only a SAK, I would NOT feel the LEAST bit comfortable cutting those threads from my slacks with one. A full-size STRIDER Fixed blade is OBVIOUSLY MUCH better suited to the job!
Drjones
I'm just of the "Bigger is better" sort. Just feel more comfortable that way. Even if I would be COMPLETELY fine in a situation with only a SAK, I would NOT feel the LEAST bit comfortable cutting those threads from my slacks with one. A full-size STRIDER Fixed blade is OBVIOUSLY MUCH better suited to the job!
Drjones
For a folder, my small sebby because it cuts really well and holds a nice edge. Plus, it is really tough in construction.
Fixed Blade: I would have to have my Buck nighthawk because it takes alot of abuse and really holds up well. Smaller, more delicate tasks would be covered by the Sebenza so the Buck would do all the hard chores.
Fixed Blade: I would have to have my Buck nighthawk because it takes alot of abuse and really holds up well. Smaller, more delicate tasks would be covered by the Sebenza so the Buck would do all the hard chores.
I take the same small SAK with me that I use for EDC. If I have a petrol stove, then I also take an older Gerber multitool that will dissasemble the stove for maintainance, as well as back up the SAK. I also have one of the cheap GatCo "red plastic X" ceramic rod sharpeners. Dummy cords all around.
This assumes my knife use will be:
opening food packages
cutting surgical tape(to cover blisters/cuts)
cleaning fish/birds
"cutting string"
and sundry other light duties.
These two small and light knives would not be expected to handle much, if any, wood cutting duties. A folding saw or hatchet would do for that.
Cheers
This assumes my knife use will be:
opening food packages
cutting surgical tape(to cover blisters/cuts)
cleaning fish/birds
"cutting string"
and sundry other light duties.
These two small and light knives would not be expected to handle much, if any, wood cutting duties. A folding saw or hatchet would do for that.
Cheers
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drjones,
a few years ago I argues against the sak in a survival situation. ron hood, mike turber(?) and some other seasoned survivalist types. I argues my point well. well 3 years later I own the sak trailmaster and a bunch of other saks. I definitely rate them high on my list.
alot of your points/preferences are more based a looks than real world skill. I am not picking on you just stating fact. I think you are honest and speak your mind which is a very good trait.
I don't think you are a troll like others have said, I just think a little green.
respectively
chris
a few years ago I argues against the sak in a survival situation. ron hood, mike turber(?) and some other seasoned survivalist types. I argues my point well. well 3 years later I own the sak trailmaster and a bunch of other saks. I definitely rate them high on my list.
alot of your points/preferences are more based a looks than real world skill. I am not picking on you just stating fact. I think you are honest and speak your mind which is a very good trait.
I don't think you are a troll like others have said, I just think a little green.
respectively
chris
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Depending on budget and preferable size
BK&T: BK7-combat utility
BK9-combat bowie
BK1-brute
SwampRat: Camp Tramp
Battle Rat
Busse Combat: Steel Heart E
Battle Mistress E
Then put your choice of SAK, Folder or MultiTool, (I use a SAK Rucksak and sometimes Leatherman Pulse or Supertool 200), sharpener and fire starter in the pouch on the sheath. All of the tools listed above come standard with sheaths that have pouches. So there is no need to limit yourself to one knife.
BK&T: BK7-combat utility
BK9-combat bowie
BK1-brute
SwampRat: Camp Tramp
Battle Rat
Busse Combat: Steel Heart E
Battle Mistress E
Then put your choice of SAK, Folder or MultiTool, (I use a SAK Rucksak and sometimes Leatherman Pulse or Supertool 200), sharpener and fire starter in the pouch on the sheath. All of the tools listed above come standard with sheaths that have pouches. So there is no need to limit yourself to one knife.
There's only ONE person to my knowledge who has accused me of trolling, and he had a whopping THREE posts to his name. (WHO'S the troll???
) Anyway, who else has said this about me? I've been a member here for TWO YEARS, and all of a sudden I'm trolling??? Riiiiiiight....
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Agreed that you may not really honestly NEED more than a SAK, but I would still feel terribly "underknifed" with one, and I personally wouldn't trust MY hide to one, ESPECIALLY not out in the woods.
When someone says "survival" situation to me, it conjures up thoughts of being trapped in a building that's been bombed (post-9/11), lost in the wilderness, or something similar. I do NOT think of it as being a PLANNED occurrence. Sure, a SAK is better than nothing at all, but I think you would have to agree that if you could only have ONE tool on you in such a situation, it would be a much larger fixed blade.
Just my opinions
Drjones
I just got a TOPs Anaconda with an aftermarket sheath from Tactical Tools and this sheath has a very large front pocket. As I just got a Victorinox X Tool yesterday I tried it out in that front pocket and its a perfect fit. I was going to use the XTool as trading material but it fits that pocket so nice...So I agree with CGD160 that a SAK/Swisstool is great...when backed up with a very large fixed blade.
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I´m still waiting for my Swamp Rat Camp Tramp to arrive, but I am very confident that it will be an extraordinarily trustworthy knife.
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Hehehehehe..... I'm just busting on drjones. I love to bust on the sharpened prybar guys.
I've used a SAK for years, and have had outstanding success with those the tools. If my building was ever bombed, and I was stuck in a basement, I think I'd choose a SAK over a Strider. The SAK has screwdrivers, which could really make the difference in an urban setting. And if my building was bombed, there would probably be a ton of scrap metal laying around to make a prybar out of. I doubt that a knife would be of much help in this kind of situation.
In an outdoor survival scenario, a SAK has a multitude of uses. The awl, saw and blade of a SAK can be used to create an emergency whistle. The awl alone can be used to sew rips in your boots, socks or pants. The package hook can be used to lift pots off of fires. The tweezers or pliers will remove ticks from your flesh. The file on my SAK Tradesman can sharpen fishing hooks and other items. And if you have canned rations, the opener is a must. I could go on and on, but the SAK is only limited by how clever the user is.
Than again, Ive never tried surviving in the outdoors with just a sharpened prybar.
I've used a SAK for years, and have had outstanding success with those the tools. If my building was ever bombed, and I was stuck in a basement, I think I'd choose a SAK over a Strider. The SAK has screwdrivers, which could really make the difference in an urban setting. And if my building was bombed, there would probably be a ton of scrap metal laying around to make a prybar out of. I doubt that a knife would be of much help in this kind of situation.
In an outdoor survival scenario, a SAK has a multitude of uses. The awl, saw and blade of a SAK can be used to create an emergency whistle. The awl alone can be used to sew rips in your boots, socks or pants. The package hook can be used to lift pots off of fires. The tweezers or pliers will remove ticks from your flesh. The file on my SAK Tradesman can sharpen fishing hooks and other items. And if you have canned rations, the opener is a must. I could go on and on, but the SAK is only limited by how clever the user is.
Than again, Ive never tried surviving in the outdoors with just a sharpened prybar.
Oh yeah???!!! Well, well...if we ever had to cut apart a feral cadillac or wild cinder blocks, I'd be laughing at YOU, Mr. SAK!
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Ok, ok....you're right...perhaps the SAK WOULD be sufficient... It just doesn't strike fear into the hearts of sheeple quite as well, though!
Drjones
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Ok, ok....you're right...perhaps the SAK WOULD be sufficient... It just doesn't strike fear into the hearts of sheeple quite as well, though!
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>"In an outdoor survival scenario, a SAK has a multitude of uses."
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Amen! As an aside, I once hear news anchorman Tom Brokaw being interviewed on public radio about a small survival "incident" he was involved in. Seems he's an active weekend outdoorsman and was doing some whitewater rafting out west. Somehow, he got stranded down in a canyon for a day or so with no supplies. Someone (park rangers maybe) was able to drop down some food to him but (and Brokaw really laughed at the <i>absurdity</i> of this) there was NO CAN OPENER with which to open the food!
Carry a SAK. Carry a multi. Whatever. Just do like the troop leader told you and be prepared!
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Amen! As an aside, I once hear news anchorman Tom Brokaw being interviewed on public radio about a small survival "incident" he was involved in. Seems he's an active weekend outdoorsman and was doing some whitewater rafting out west. Somehow, he got stranded down in a canyon for a day or so with no supplies. Someone (park rangers maybe) was able to drop down some food to him but (and Brokaw really laughed at the <i>absurdity</i> of this) there was NO CAN OPENER with which to open the food!
Carry a SAK. Carry a multi. Whatever. Just do like the troop leader told you and be prepared!